An interesting question about Salvia imagery

[RhythmSpring]

Ok, we all know the themes of Salvia- zippers, cartoons, conveyor belts, things like that. However, these things did not exist in the minds of the Mazatecs, who used Salvia centuries ago.

So what did they envision, if not these products of modern civilization? What is the Mazatec equivalent of a conveyor belt?

 

[Crashing]

Ok, we all know the themes of Salvia- zippers, cartoons, conveyor belts, things like that. However, these things did not exist in the minds of the Mazatecs, who used Salvia centuries ago.

So what did they envision, if not these products of modern civilization? What is the Mazatec equivalent of a conveyor belt?

The closest thing I could think of would be a river.

 

[freedstar]

I felt like one of these

http://www.sullivanswaterwheels.com/images/2ftwheel2.JPG

A friend says she saw a sunflower which is strangely similar.

 

[RhythmSpring]

Oh yeah! I have felt a *part* of one of those, too. I call it the wheel of souls. A vast network of souls (us), all connected to it by the tops of our heads, radiating outward. In this reality we don't see it, but in Salvia Space, we see it. Or at least I do.

 

[Sepher]

I felt like one of these

http://www.sullivanswaterwheels.com/images/2ftwheel2.JPG

A friend says she saw a sunflower which is strangely similar.

How interesting. I've never given it much thought having given up on salvia after only a handful of experiences deciding it wasn't for me but a chain of spoked wheels, each peeling part of itself off and entwining itself into the one above it in a kind of endless, flat array of similar chains arranged side by side would be exactly right for one of the recurring images. These would quite often radiate vertically away from me, surrounding me on all sides. How odd that you should have so completely nailed it, unless this is one of those kinda Jungian archetypal images from the human psyche but why should that be so? Why a wheel or whatever it really is? What's it representing?

 

[Albion]

How interesting. I've never given it much thought having given up on salvia after only a handful of experiences deciding it wasn't for me but a chain of spoked wheels, each peeling part of itself off and entwining itself into the one above it in a kind of endless, flat array of similar chains arranged side by side would be exactly right for one of the recurring images. These would quite often radiate vertically away from me, surrounding me on all sides. How odd that you should have so completely nailed it, unless this is one of those kinda Jungian archetypal images from the human psyche but why should that be so? Why a wheel or whatever it really is? What's it representing?

A visual analogy of infinite, surely.

 

[Incunabula]

How interesting. I've never given it much thought having given up on salvia after only a handful of experiences deciding it wasn't for me but a chain of spoked wheels, each peeling part of itself off and entwining itself into the one above it in a kind of endless, flat array of similar chains arranged side by side would be exactly right for one of the recurring images. These would quite often radiate vertically away from me, surrounding me on all sides. How odd that you should have so completely nailed it, unless this is one of those kinda Jungian archetypal images from the human psyche but why should that be so? Why a wheel or whatever it really is? What's it representing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharmacakra ?

 

[RhythmSpring]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_Fortune_(Tarot_card) ?

 

[Sepher]

Good calls guys, especially you Faggott. From your link this would be very, very close. Even the colours are correct. Now I just have to work out whether I'd seen that symbol before doing the Salvia all those years back or whether there's something deeper going on with archetypes here. Not sure on that either way at the moment.

 

[Gyrospeck]

I also felt the conveyer belt / wheel of souls, or whatever while on salvia. It was a very powerful image/feeling in several of my salvia trips.

I'm unsure what this feeling could symbolize. The wheel is one of mans earlier inventions. Perhaps it could be a symbol of technology or perhaps its a symbol for travel.