aMT safe to take with antihistamines ?

[Transcendence]

I took 8mg chlorpheniramine and 25mg ephedrine 6 hours ago. Is it relatively safe to take amt or am i running a serious risk?

 

[greenmeanies]

I'd worry more about the stimulant (ephedrine) adding too much monoamine release to the party. But after 6 hours you should be pretty safe.

 

[Limitbreaker]

I'll ask that question here, while we are to antihistamines - is it safe and effective to reduce possible nausea/vomiting from aMT by taking eg. dimenhydrynate or diphenhydramine?

And is that famous nausea occuring only during the comeup, or does it happen like, randomly? Say, I'm feeling great, I go to teh dancefloor, dance and suddenly puke?

 

[Transcendence]

^I've heard it's safe, but I still feel uneasy about it for some reason. I take antihistamines almost daily for allergies, but aMT has a certain feel to it that bugs me.

The nausea only occurs during the come up in my experience, but keep in mind that the come up on this drug is at least four hours when ingested orally.


aMT is a really odd one. It has at least two different stages. I took it nearly 12 hours ago, and I'm only starting to feel euphoria now. The first 12 hours was like come up purgatory. I felt no nausea whatsoever with 100mg plugged. But I was trapped in a not quite tripping state for a good 8 or 9 hours.

 

[PsychedelicPeptide]

I think the only thing antihistamines will help with in regards to aMT is to help reduce swelling or puffiness of the eyes/face that serotonin agonists can sometimes cause, or at least aMT does to me every time.

Personally I don't use DMH or DPH though; these can have undesirable side effects (a single dose likely won't trigger anything but you never know w/ drug-drug interactions) and can make you tired. Try something like allegra if you get the puffy face or have allergies.

As for nausea and vomiting, the best aid is #1 not having lots of food in your stomach and intestines to begin with (i.e., fast as much as you can in the 24-48 hours before the trip) and #2 ginger - either fresh powder or the fresh root, capsule and eat the powder or make tea from the root.

Some of the OTC meds can help too, pepto bismol works pretty well for me, antacids, and loperamide maybe, sometimes I feel like it helps others not.

 

[Sepher]

And is that famous nausea occuring only during the comeup, or does it happen like, randomly? Say, I'm feeling great, I go to teh dancefloor, dance and suddenly puke?

Only during the come up IME, passing as soon the peak hits around 2 hours in, and I don't suffer massively with it myself even with oral doses around the 100mg mark. The gastro-intestinal aggravation the other end though is ongoing throughout the trip, 12hrs+ of sudden liquidity. You probably wouldn't wanna get caught out by that on a dance floor, no. Pre-dosing with a couple of Loperamide highly recommended.

 

[Limitbreaker]

Would vaporizing the compound allow me to pass the nausea stage? Or perhaps p.r. (I'm very used to that route)?

 

[Sepher]

^ I've chased off of foil a few times, mostly either to get things started while I wait for an oral dose to hit, or to kick up a previously taken oral dose, but have vaped 10-20mg by itself a few times to compare effects. The nausea still hits, possibly more strongly, hard to say. It's also very difficult to keep down. There's very little smoke and it doesn't taste bad at all but as soon as the smoke hits your lungs they're wanting rid of it, more like a massive spasm as if the bronchi are trying to close it out than it is a normal cough. I've gone off vaping. Seem to get more of the negative effects like the dirty stimulation I get at low doses oral than I get of the positive psychedelic ones.