AMT, RCs and maybe IV 2C-I?

[Beefy]

Hi, I'm very into things that cause euphoria. Therefore MDMA is my #1 substance. I just don't do it more often because i don't want it to lose it's magic, but i'm about to get 1G of molly soon, so that should keep me happy for a month or so.
But i've been reading about AMT and i'm interested in it. I also like psychedelics, but on the lighter side of things. I'm not so much into having the whole world around me melt or something, just see patterns/colors and become more creative on it. but this chemical has gotten me interested. But would AMT be a good mix to combine with mdma. who has tried it with or without? What are your thoughts on this chemical?

Now i kind of have another question I wanted to ask. it's regarding IVing RCs. I've been reading trip reports of people who have IVd different RCs (4-aco-dmt, 2C family...), and it seems like they just tripped balls, which is not a surprise to me. But the reason i am asking is to know perhaps how low i should start. And i only am thinking of doing this because i'm going to be getting 10MG of 2C-I which will be parted between 2 people, and i kind of want it to last for more than one day/trip. I'll be the only one IVing it. So i plan to start waaay low (1 or 2mg the first shot and see). Or should i just try IM or maybe plugging the 5mg?? The reason i'm not even attempting to digest 5mg is because i know that won't do much, i've already tried 2c-i before and it was that same amount...
I've read a trip report where someone IVd 14 mgs. That's something that i'd never do, but i'm going by what seems to be an experienced IV user of RCs who posted his own dosage chart

"Threshold 1 mg
Light 2 - 4 mg
Common 3 - 6 mg
Strong 6 - 9 mg
Heavy 8 - 15 mg: More than 12MG ARE NOT ADVISABLE and severe consequences (physical and mental) seem to be VERY possible at these levels." Taken from Erowid

 

[madog11]

I can't answer most of your questions as I haven't kept up with RC's. However I would always reccomend plugging over IV and definately don't IM the risk of absess is huge DO NOT DO IM!

 

[Pjkt2501]

I would highly advise against IV'ing any RC. Sure the chemical is said to be pure, having come straight from a lab, but who's to say? Dear lord I hope it's not like the 2c-e / bDfly screwup... Anyway, good luck on any front there.

IV'ing would be pointless in my opinion for a different reason as well: Even snorting 2C-E, I felt as though the trip was lacking several important parts. No depth at all to it - just an in-my-face barrage of one particular type of visual effect that acid will make as well (and will make better, the acid that is).

Plugging may be your best method listed, though it's onset and duration may still be too short and lose the finer points for ya.

Anyway, these are all psychedelics, and while there are dosing questions, I think PD can answer your experience questions a bit better.

BDD -> PD

 

[Solipsis]

I also like psychedelics, but on the lighter side of things. I'm not so much into having the whole world around me melt or something

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Now i kind of have another question I wanted to ask. it's regarding IVing RCs.

Wtf? You don't think the world is going to melt around you if you IV psychedelic Research Chemicals? I certainly wouldn't inject stimulant RCs, over my dead body (which is not a long shot)


Psychedelics should not be pushed to the limit to get the most euphoria out of them, I think you'll regret it. The best psychedelic euphoria is from doing just a normal (but best to be full) dose in a wonderful situation at the right time and then just relaxing and letting go of your expectations and desires.

 

[Survived Abortion]

^Word.

But for HR sake, if you are going to IV anyway, then please make sure you use a micron filter. You have no idea what impurities may possibly be in the batches of powder, especially after it has gone through several hands to get to you. And always do an allergy test; this is doubly important if you are injecting.

I have IV'd and IM'd a fair number of different psychedelic RCs, and while the experiences were great, I can easily achieve the same and better overall results using other ROAs (such as oral and rectal). I also did a lot of damage to my veins and muscle doing this (likely due to bad technique), and it is not something I intend to do again. So I would discourage you from choosing this ROA.

What I would suggest is that you try to aquire more than 10mg of 2C-I, since that amount wont take you very far in terms of dosing more than one person.

 

[OTGee]

Dont mix mdma and aMT, people have and survived but theres a risk of SS. Dont iv any of these substances as well, its just not safe to IV RC's that have little to no research. I suggest aMT if you like mdma, it can be very euphoric and the visual side seems to be the kinda shit that you enjoy.

 

[livetheopiatedream]

micron filter it for IV at least if ur gonna. ive taken a lotta 2-ci in recent months and its great. i have snorted a LOT of the shit as i tend to redose a bunch, no idea on the doses i was actually taking tho. just started with a little bump i figured out to be a good aprox start dose the very first time and kinda remembered what the size of that bump was for all future times. i wonder how much i actually took, seems possible it could be a lot, too much. but u have no idea what theyre putting in the shit who knows how pure the rcs actually r. honestly dunno y anyone would iv instead of just snorting it but i guess if ur tryin to minimize dose and max value for ur $...

 

[OTGee]

Dont mix mdma and aMT, people have and survived but theres a risk of SS. Dont iv any of these substances as well, its just not safe to IV RC's that have little to no research. I suggest aMT if you like mdma, it can be very euphoric and the visual side seems to be the kinda shit that you enjoy.

 

[Survived Abortion]

micron filter it for IV at least if ur gonna. ive taken a lotta 2-ci in recent months and its great. i have snorted a LOT of the shit as i tend to redose a bunch, no idea on the doses i was actually taking tho. just started with a little bump i figured out to be a good aprox start dose the very first time and kinda remembered what the size of that bump was for all future times. i wonder how much i actually took, seems possible it could be a lot, too much. but u have no idea what theyre putting in the shit who knows how pure the rcs actually r. honestly dunno y anyone would iv instead of just snorting it but i guess if ur tryin to minimize dose and max value for ur $...

You should get a scale.

 

[whataboutheforests]

I have no experience IV'ing 2c-I, but I would be wary of trying to use it as a replacement for MDMA. Like you, my favorite chemical is MDMA and although there are MANY chemicals that people use to mimic MDMA, nothing is even really close. However, if you like MDMA, I'm pretty sure you will love 2C-I. I don't know if you've ever done LSD, but its like that minus the "mindfuck". Very euphoric, (reminiscent of MDMA, but not the same), great visuals in higher doses, and very little anxiety or "real" psychedelia IME. It's very recreational, and one of my favorite psychedlics. 10 mg isn't much though.

 

[Beefy]

Thanks guys. I've been thinking if over and i'm not going to IV any RCs. That is true. sellers say it's 98% or 100% pure, but you don't actually know, maybe the cook did something to it. So yes, i'm going to either snort, sublingual or just swallow.
Yes, i have done 2C-I once, and i didn't take enough. well, i took it twice, the first time nothing happened, and the next day, something did, but very minimal. from the same batch. maybe it just has 4 or 5 mgs more. it was in a capsule.