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aMT & melatonin

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the_doctor46

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Hey. I have a question regarding aMT & melatonin.... I often feel very tired during an aMT trip (I don't do them often at all, in case you were wondering) until I get to the point where I just want it to end so that I can go to sleep. However, aMT makes time pass more slowly, and this feeling of wanting it to end combined with the slowing down of time, often bursts into a bad trip (and which is related, panic, stress etc.).

So I was wondering if melatonin would be a good choice for going to sleep while on aMT. Especially because I read that melatonin gets converted into aMT and DMT in your body, is that true? If it is, then would it be effective or (as I think it would happen), it would actually increase the tripping even more?
 
how does amt make you tired? its a strong stimulant. if you ever want it to end try getting hold of some benzos, i take etizolam and i need about 5 pills to get to sleep on amt, so i dont think any herbal pills will work..

cant say ive ever heard that melatonin gets converted into amt and dmt.. that doesnt make any sense, i'd check your sources on that info
 
I have no idea how aMT makes me tired tbf.... but out of all the times I took it, I felt tired. Tired, but not able to go to sleep (because of the stimulant effect). And that really bothers me and my mind.

Regarding the sources, I found them a while ago, so I can't remember where I found them, but I just found another report of some uni in Granada that keeps refering to melatonin as "aMT"... here's the link:
www.ugr.es/~juberos/Curriculum/AI23.pdf
 
aMT is alpha-methyltryptamine, he is just abbreviating the melatonin chemical name as aMT also but i assure you it is a tottally different chemical

maybe try a higher dose? what dose are you taking?
 
Do you feel tired during the whole trip or only a bit into it?

Its natural to feel tired when youre tripping on a long lasting drug like aMT. Im guessing that what you mean by tired is that your head feels worn out and your body is tired, but at the same time you just cant sleep because of the stimulation. Maybe try dosing earlier in the day to avoid this and make sure youre well rested before you dose.
 
So you say that it shouldn't convert in body, right? If so I might try it... I never tried melatonin before, I just heard of it, so maybe I will first try to see how drowsy I get from when sober and see if it's an appropriate choice or if it's too light.

I usually vary my dose, but the maximum I've had was nearly 40mg. It wasn't a pleasant experience at all. Scariest time of my life. It was one of my first trips with aMT. I came to realize that aMT at higher doses tends to act on your body (at least in my case) as if someone was pulling your strings... and that's exactly what goes totally against my personality.
Today I tried 12mg, to test for antidepressant effects. Dosed at noon, came down after 5 hours or so.... still coming down, not feeling normal yet, but I am definitely more lucid than I was a couple of hours ago.
In every occasion, I get tired. And the higher the dose, the more tired I get. Maybe there's something wrong in my body chemistry, I don't know haha
I am not confident enough to experiment with doses above 40mg yet... I dosed 40mg just once and it went extremely bad. If I have to do a higher dose, I definitely would need someone with me (I live alone and don't have many friends who are into this kind of stuff).
 
melatonin doesnt make you drowsy or tired, no where near enough to bring you down off a stimulant anyway. try some Diphenhydramine (bendryl or nytol) that works for some and actually makes you drowsy, or if they fail, benzos, they guarantee too work.

with aMT you need to be prepared that your in it for the long haul, have plenty of stuff to keep you excited about so you dont get bored, i find weed helps mid way through the trip to bring back some fun, get things going again etc

i find 40mgs to be the perfect dose for me IMO
 
Mh, ok, I will see if I can find something then...

And yeah most definitely. I have no access to weed unfortunately, and mostly have to trip on my own. I never seem to have a real good time on aMT, so I think I will just keep it for when I have people around or something.
Thanks anyway for your help.
 
I find aMT to make me quite tired even before it's been long into the trip sometimes - I think it's due to there being a higher ratio of serotonin to dopamine than with MDMA, making it a more calm and sometimes even sedating empathy.

I've honestly not found it that hard to fall asleep while on aMT once I hit the tired stage, even if I'm full on tripping. It sounds a stupid question but did you actually try? Sometimes I feel too awake on a psychedelic to even try sleep, but then I actually do and it surprisingly works. :)

A low to medium dose of alcohol or a benzodiazepine (or GBL/GHB, etc) should help get you along the way to sleep. Melatonin isn't going to help much during a trip to get you to sleep.
 
One time when my Gallah had meth and was really buzzing he had a phenergan, went to sleep fine and got up the next day still buzzing feeling great. Try phenergan (promethazine) over the counter antihistamine for allergies also used to put ppl to sleep.
 
Jesusgreen, yeah I actually tried to sleep on it, but even at low doses such as 10-15mg I have some crazy CEVs which make the sleeping totally impossible. That's basically what keeps me from sleeping. OEVs are actually not that bad at doses under 35mg, I can kind of handle it. It's the CEVs which totally blow my mind away, I get some really weird ones... they're quite "dark".

Phenergan sounds like a good try, I might see.
I have no idea when I'm going to take another dose anyway, as I said I want to do it with people, it might be months or years before I get the chance to do it again... so I'm not going to post a reply about its effectiveness any time soon heh
 
Never Knows Best said:
If you live in the U.S., then promethazine isn't OTC, and doxylamine will be the antihistamine with the greatest hypnotic effect available to you.
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WOW, I live in Australia and I can't believe the US don't do it otc. Normally its us who have everything restricted, scheduled and made illegal first.

Without stimulants on board I found doxylamine always took way too long to work for me and I wouldn't wanna get out of bed the next day.And phernergan does have abit of a hangover too, tho I found it knocked me out more where doxylamine was like, once I got to sleep u cudn't wake me. Everyones different but.
 
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