AMT first time?

[Chriswaa]

So I want to try AMT. I managed to get my hands on a sack of it and it will be my first time and I wouldn't call myself a professional psychadelic/stimulant sponge by any means whatsoever. So I'm looking for some general "guidelines" of what I should and shouldn't be doing when I find the time to try it.


Psychadelics experience - Shrooms, Truffles, and another unknown substance which I was informed was LSD but certainly wasn't; also LSA which i didn't really notice much effect from. - all of which I've done only once. - These were all quite a while ago

Stimulant experience - 2 year Mephedrone dependancy (not fun), cocaine, (m)ethylphenidate, amphetamine, and of course caffeine, nicotine and many other (pretty useless) stimulants - I'm not a regular stimulant user apart from caffeine and nicotine daily, and the occasional whiff of ethylphenidate.

I've done a little research about AMT, effects and side effects, half life, checked through reports and the recommended dosage: But everywhere I look I seem to get different answers ranging from 30-100mg AMT which many people said was ridiculous.

Basically what I'm asking is what would be a good place to start with AMT? I often take my drugs alone, unless I feel that i'll be in danger when i take them. I'm very careful with my dosages and more often than not underdose the recommended dose when trying new RC's which i haven't overly researched as I like to be as careful as possible with them (after 5f-AKB48 and other cannabinoids - lets not even go there)


Any help and info including a responsible dosage, surrounding, expected effects and the different effects within the timescale would be greatly appreciated.

Hopefully this is understandable and people can give me some help with this :^)

A future trip report may be incoming if I get the right help :D


Many thanks

Chris

 

[psy997]

aMT is not one I would take alone simply because of how social it is for the first 2-3 hours while it feels like an amphetamine/rolling, until you out of the blue start tripping. And even while tripping, it's the most social psychedelic I've ever done.

I took 40 or 50mg, can't remember, and it was plenty for a full experience without being underwhelming at all.

Be aware, it takes a FUCK LONG time after dosing to fall asleep.

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

I'd say 40-50mg max for a first time - it is active and quite noticable over a whole range hence the confusion so depends what your looking for, 70+ is gonna be pretty strong for many

 

[Sprout]

aMT is odd in that side effects are less prominent as dose is scaled. Generally, below ~35mg is uncomfortable for many: it just feels a little dirty and incomplete.
At ~40mg you are likely to experience most of what aMT has to offer: incredible euphoria, MD-XX level empathogenic qualities, and some VERY fun visuals, with close to zero risk of a 'bad trip' due to the sheer euphoria that a massive serotonin flood is infamous for.
~80mg+, IME at least, the empathogenic component falls into the background, dwarfed by the 'obnoxiously visual' element.

Overall: an excellent substance and one I am very fond of. Have fun!

I'm sure you're aware of the MAOI risks - if not; avoid tyramine in foods, and do not mix with another serotonergic compound. Though aMT is rather weak in its inhibition (150mg+ is comparable to Harmaline), it is still a serious issue to take into account.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

So amt is like X where you can't/don't want to dose it very frequently?

 

[Mr. Finn]

That would be correct. aMT is a potent serotonin releasing agent (like MDMA and MDA), so you should stick to once every ~3 months. It has the potential to seriously fuck shit up in your serotonin systems in the same way MDMA does when abused.

 

[《Plasticity》]

I actually enjoy taking aMT alone just as much as I do taking it with other people, imo it's hard to have a bad time on aMT but I know that quite a few people have the opposite problem. Fwiw I also think 40-50mgs is a good first dose after allergy tests for a full exprience, and I can also attest to a cleaner experience when doses are fairly generous. Anything under 40mg felt extremely dirty with side-effects not worth the underwhelming trip. As you increase the dose there's a sort of "breakthrough" where the side-effects effects are masked by the positives.

That would be correct. aMT is a potent serotonin releasing agent (like MDMA and MDA), so you should stick to once every ~3 months. It has the potential to seriously fuck shit up in your serotonin systems in the same way MDMA does when abuse

IME aMT is way more forgiving than MDMA as far as serotonin depletion related issues go. Though using any monoamine releaser with regularity is always a terrible idea, many people, including me to an extent (against better judgement), have pushed this one to some pretty extreme limits with shockingly less consequences than you would expect from such a strong triple releaser.

There have been times where I'd dosed rather high for two days straight and although I was pretty worn out on the days after, my mood was boosted far higher than baseline. Nobody should take this post as a green light to abuse aMT, it's a terrible idea, but I just think it's interesting how little it seems to give your receptors a good raping, or at least how little these negative effects manifest themselves when all is said and done.