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AMT Dose first time - Experienced with psychedelics

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KaleB541

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Hi ya,

Just got my hands on some AMT, a 100mg sample bag from a reputable vendor, seeing as acid has dried up completely in London town. Have done lots of LSD, shrooms, mescaline etc etc and I love the headspace more than pretty colours you could say, although I'm a sucker for superficial effects too needless to say :)

Now with AMT being more of a stimulant of the indole class, what would an appropriate first time dose be to get more of a trip and less of a stim? As I understand if I was to start with say 25mg (safe dose, but mostly a speedy effect) and then top up after a few hours I would only increase the amphetamine effect.

Would dropping 40/50mg be a safe bet here? Help peeps, I need some council time :-)
 
the dosages really confuse me, but as far as im aware . Its 25mg to 40mg oral for a pretty good trip 60mg+ for a very strong one. Or 10 to 25mg smoked for an average one. I myself still get pretty confused because I've smoked 7mg to 10mg and felt very little.
 
thanks chap.

dropped 40mg in a small rizla paper bomb. here's to hoping it doesn't overstimulate me out of doing something useful :)
 
thanks chap.

just dropped 40mg in a small rolling paper bomb. here's to hoping it doesn't overstimulate me out of doing something useful :)
 
keep us updated, might be interested in trying AMT sometime
 
Personally I started out with 10 mg and that is all I ever did. It was gentle and anti-depressant, sparkling and it lifted my mood for quite some time. Beautiful stuff. Wholesome and therapeutically agreeable.

I don't think it's such a great idea to go above 25-30 for the first time, not that I think there would be terrible things that happen but it's just that I would rather cup a feel for it initially before trying to use it full-on.

A top-three rookie mistake in my book is that many people want to try and 'get off' right away.

Let's see if we can make this into a first time AMT subthread shall we?
 
That would be a wonderful idea, seeing as i unfortunately haven't had a day spare to fully appreciate aMT in its full due to its long duration. Im wondering would it be more effective/enjoyable to wrap say 25mg in a rizzla or put it in a captule rather then smoking 25mg?.

Also has anyone used this and nitrous? or other such combos.
I myself did try 7mg smoked with around 15 or so mg of mxe and had a pretty good time .
 
It seems pretty unorthodox to intra-nasally, but im going give it a bash anuway. 30mg

pain for no more than 5 seconds. lets hope for an enjoyable outcome...
 
Solipsis said:
Personally I started out with 10 mg and that is all I ever did. It was gentle and anti-depressant, sparkling and it lifted my mood for quite some time. Beautiful stuff. Wholesome and therapeutically agreeable.

I don't think it's such a great idea to go above 25-30 for the first time, not that I think there would be terrible things that happen but it's just that I would rather cup a feel for it initially before trying to use it full-on.

A top-three rookie mistake in my book is that many people want to try and 'get off' right away.

Let's see if we can make this into a first time AMT subthread shall we?
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Did you take orally or smoked?
 
well im bored now 30mg and nothing at all after an hour not even a hint of the onset beginning, il smoke 30 next time see if theres something then
 
Smoking AMT is highly recommended, but some people in this thread might be in for a surprise if they smoke the amounts they're suggesting - it's at least 3x more potent than oral in my experience, 15mg was a full dose for me compared with 40-50 orally. I know people can take higher doses than that but smoking 30mg in one go would be a bit silly.

It's a much much better ROA than oral though, in fact having smoked it I wouldn't even consider taking it orally again. No nausea whatsoever, half the come-up time and half the duration so you won't have to sacrifice a whole day, Mercc96.

And yeah, Solipsis, I find AMT wonderful at all doses, but it only started getting really good at 35mg + orally.
 
OK, so 40mg proved to be a decent first time dose. Lots of empathy & euphoria and a bit of a speedy restless feel. Though only between 1/3 and 1/2 of the intensity of what you would get from MDMA. I did manage to keep decent focus on all tasks at hand, but sadly there was almost no mind expansion. Also the chances of synesthesia were pretty low from AMT alone...

I topped it off with some cactus tea about 4 hours later... and what a joy for all senses that was... it proved to be worth it because the missing dimension became immediately apparent... and then several hours later ~10 hbwr seeds helped some more.

Overall it was a good experience and I would recommend it to those experienced with psychedelics... On the other hand I can see how this combination or even AMT alone could cause grave confusion in those just looking for a good time. One wrong thought could trigger a mountain of fear that would develop into a state of sheer psychological terror over some 20 hours... be wise... it's very long lasting... there's a reason why it's still legal :)
 
I have tried smoking 30mg a few times and eating 30mg also but did not rate it until i bombed 53mg then smoked a load of weed then i got it's true effects and loved it, i think this drug is overrated in small doses, personally i wont try under 50mg again as i feel its a bit of a waste.
 
So what are these true effects seen only on 50+ mg dosages? Does it get more psychedelic?

I'm planning to drop at least 50 next time...
 
I wonder if the batches going around at the moment have a purity issue; it seems (going by the anecdotes) that, a few years back, folks were requiring far less of a dose to get much greater effects.
 
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