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aMT, Al-Lad, LSz, 5-meo-dalt, (also AH7921+) BANNED from Jan 7th

Raasyvibe said:
Thank fuck for the banning.

The listed drugs are way too similar in strength/effects to many current illicit drugs. People should be encouraged to live lives healthily and stay away from drugs, so I think this legislation is really good for the general public at large.

Good on ya, Cameron
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Ive noticed you on here more and more latley raasy. Ive never really been too sociable on the this site, so I don't know your deal?
Do you just troll about bluelight as a non-drug using pisshead? Or are you just taking the piss, trying to be funny? I know this may sound a bit cuntish, but im honestly interested as to what you mean by 95% of your posts?
Are you being serious in your posts? or is it a bit of an inside joke that Im not getting?
Sorry if Ive offended anyone, didn't mean it offensively =D

Back on topic,
Never had the chance to try any of them, other than some dodggy aMT. AL-LAD sounded good.
Are vendors still shipping over christmas period? If not, its even more of a piss take! Might try get a few hits of AL-LAD before they disapear.
 
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Si Ingwe said:
aMT is a different ball-game. aMT can & has caused harm & death, unlike LSz & Al-Lad.
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just want to notice that, though not saying its not dangerous, it has also been one of the chems legal for a long time with little use over the years and has only recently come under fire from misuse. it has survived quite a few previous ban waves... and i still believe it can be a wonderful chemical, though a difficult one... but then so are 90% of the drugs out there.
just saying id rather have amt than street coke.

also, the worst hangovers in my life and the worst nights with consequences have been after alcohol binges. i still enjoy a cup of wine, but then, what is the difference between responsibly enjoying a beer and responsibly enjoying a tab of acid?
 
Si ingwe said:
The only reason these drugs are being banned is because of their structural similarity to banned drugs. They pose close to zero risk, to either an individual or to society. I fail to see how Al-Lad could be a danger to any society.
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MistyPants said:
Come on Si, we all know psychedelics make you think you can fly and also turn you into a glass of orange juice.. Its true, The Daily Mail said so...;)
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I found these comments shockingly ignorant. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I may well be because I have no experience of these new drugs... please please tell me if I've got this wrong... but isn't LSz an analogue of LSD? Meaning it's very similar??

And LSD being a drug that can leave you with permanent neurological damage (HPPD), severe mental problems, and I believe has sent users of this very forum (EADD) to mental hospitals swearing to never use the stuff again?? And you really think it's no harm at all?

Your stance towards drugs may be different than my own, and I respect that, but surely you're being ignorant here if you think there is zero risk from taking an analogue of LSD?


kaosisallwesee said:
Do you just troll about bluelight as a non-drug using pisshead? Or are you just taking the piss, trying to be funny? I know this may sound a bit cuntish, but im honestly interested as to what you mean by 95% of your posts?
Are you being serious in your posts? or is it a bit of an inside joke that Im not getting?
Sorry if Ive offended anyone, didn't mean it offensively
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A bit of both. I am a former drug user, who has given the matter much thought and - over years - concluded that pretty much all illegal drugs are not good for you, and best off illegal.

I'm clearly going to be in the minority, in a forum of people that are largely proponents of drug usage, but it at least it gives the chance of some good debate now and then. Yes, occasionally I attempt to wind people up by praising the government but seems old Shammy Chops has gotten astute to this, hence above, and I need to rest up the troll for a little while.
 
Shockingly ignorant.. really?

I dont believe i said, or Si for that matter said they carry zero risk. Out of all of the possible drugs to ban, Al-Lad and LSZ are relatively safe, as is LSD. Yes, it may cause somebody some harm, so do spoons, or riding motorbikes or any number of things.. Do we ban everything?? Do you not think that some chemist somewhere is scratching his head thinking about how s/he can tweak this relatively safe chemical and run the risk of creating something not so safe, which people will consume and more harm is done... Thats what usually happens isnt it..

Come on Raas, you're not dumb, give the matter some more thought...
 
^ Yes, he did

Si Igwe said:
They pose close to zero risk, to either an individual or to society.
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And your post collaborated with his opinion, hence why I quoted it.
 
Does it really matter if his exact words were "close to zero risk" or "zero risk"? The emphasis is the same, and it seems disproportionate to those members on and off this site who've ended up in mental hospitals because of LSD, or are suffering permanent neurological effects.
 
how many people end up in hospital because of alcohol related illness, and suffer the pretty permanent neurological effect of death?
 
^^ great minds ;)

Raasyvibe said:
Does it really matter if his exact words were "close to zero risk" or "zero risk"? The emphasis is the same, and it seems disproportionate to those members on and off this site who've ended up in mental hospitals because of LSD, or are suffering permanent neurological effects.
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I'm a little more concerned about those 10s of 1000s that end up seriously ill or dead from alcohol every year in this country...arent you ?

Show me someone who can prove that any active substance doesn't carry risks of some sort of harm and I'll show you some one full of shit
 
Im glad you both showed up... ive just being banging my head off the wall just to my left, trying to say what you just said, but the mxe wont let me =D
 
Allein said:
^^ great minds ;)



I'm a little more concerned about those 10s of 1000s that end up seriously ill or dead from alcohol every year in this country...arent you ?

Show me someone who can prove that any active substance doesn't carry risks of some sort of harm and I'll show you some one full of shit
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Ceres said:
how many people end up in hospital because of alcohol related illness, and suffer the pretty permanent neurological effect of death?
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Alcohol related illness is usually the result of abuse and over a long period of time. If I have a bottle of wine tonight (and im not) it's highly unlikely I'm going to have Liver disease or permanent cognitive disorders from it. I've been drinking for over 15 years. The amount of times I've got "drunk" is probably many thousands and never had a problem other than texting girls stupid messages (gee that's embarrassing). The only friend I know who's had a liver problem from alcohol, was a complete abuser. Heavy daily drinker for many years.

So simply; you're alcohol long term problems are usually the result of abuse. My understanding is that drugs like acid can put anyone in a mental hospital, even with occasional use. This most likely has a lot to do with why alcohol is legal, and acid is not.
 
Ceres said:
accounts for a large percentage of people acting like arseholes aswell
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And I'd say that is a far more serious societal issue than the health issues. Those alcohol figures don't even take into account all the damage and cost to society caused by drunken morons who stop short of actually killing themselves.

Raasyvibe said:
... The amount of times I've got "drunk" is probably many thousands and never had a problem other than texting girls stupid messages (gee that's embarrassing).
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That and being kicked out of uni.
 
^ No, was never kicked out. Just got into a wee bit of trouble now and then.

Shambles said:
Those alcohol figures don't even take into account all the damage and cost to society caused by drunken morons who stop short of actually killing themselves.
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There is a law against drunk and disorderly, y'know. Drinking problems, whether harm to one self, other people or society are often caused by careless drinking or abuse problems. Sensible drinking is somewhat predictable, compared to taking strong psychedelics. Psychedelics are far more unpredictable and can be overwhelming. If the government are to protect public as a whole, it makes strong sense that acid should be illegal. (and of course, it's analogues)





Anyway this heavily digresses from my original post, where Sir Ingwe said

drugs. They pose close to zero risk, to either an individual or to society.
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I think it's very clear that they do pose great risk to individuals and there is some reason behind banning these substances.
 
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