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AMT + 5-MeO-DMT -- first time / experienced -- The 10-Minute Orgasm

VictorBorge

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AMT + 5-MeO-DMT - first time / experienced - The 10-Minute Orgasm

I think I finally found out what 5-MeO-DMT is for.

WOW! Today I tried AMT for the first time. This is a chemical I missed out on before it was scheduled in the US, and I have only been able to read about until now. Hearing it described once as the "Rolls Royce" of psychedelics (as well as a very nauseating and upredictable chem, on the down side), it was an easy decision for me to try some when it came my way.

I received it in pure powder form and weighed it as carefully as I could with my >CRAPPY< GemPro (I'm getting a new scale really fucking soon, people. I have no confidence in this one), I ingested about 45mg while sitting on the beach, doing some writing on my new PowerBook G4 (so sweet) and watching cute girls.

My reaction for the first 2-3 hours was, FUCK, this is more nausea than I like. I didn't puke, but I did burp some foul stuff for a while. A couple Tums helped a lot. At one point I burped and almost involutarily puked in front of a bunch of people, but didn't.

I definitely noticed a curious aphrodisiac effect others have described. I was extremely disinhibted and self-confident. I have felt this on LSD and other tryptamines as well. It must be dopamine action. At the same time, I was not exactly "horny", but I think if you are already "in the mood" or aroused, though, AMT can really make you take it, um, more seriously. I discovered myself involuntarily following these two cute girls around the beach because I couldn't stop looking at them. I knew I was stalking them but I didn't care. Fortunately they soon drove off and I headed home.

On the way home, how at maybe T+2 hours, the nausea slowly morphed into a pretty nice body buzz, centered in the stomach and diaphram definitely. The overwhelming feeling was "smooth". It felt like a very smooth experience, like drinking Guinness. Somewhat like 2C-E, it left my mind fairly clear even as it was certainly afffecting me powerfully, and I did not feel out of control riding my bike in traffic. In fact, my bike felt like a smoother, more natural ride than I can remember.

I got home, smoked one hit of cannabis to reduce the nausea, and started listening to some music. At about the 3 hour point, I decided a bump was in order. I have NEVER bumped psychedelics before. I had never even insufflated anything before this. This is more evidence of the disinhibition I think this drug caused me, and has caused in others as well.

But something was just pushing me to do a LITTLE bit more of this AMT, so I measured out 10mg and bumped it a little at a time. At first no burn, and then an increasing "spicy" feeling. Nothing too bad, IMO. I have heard very negatives comments about the smell/taste of AMT, but the batch I had was very pure and did not smell that bad. I cleaned out the nose with water and applied some Cortaid to reduce the inflammation. The booster effects were nice, but not a big addition to the trip. I only read later that what I had was likely freebase and so not very efficient to snort. I will probably smoke it at some point to see what that's like.

Anyway, shortly after the AMT boost, I came on Bluelight and read something that made me want to do some 5-MeO-DMT. I think it was a combo report about 5mg 5-MeO-DMT combined with low doses of 5-MeO-DIPT and 5-MeO-AMT, or something. Anyway, after my recent awesome experience with 5-MeO-DMT, I decdied to do it. I measured out 5mg (it may have been closer to 8, that GemPro scale SUXXXXX), and smoked it in one beefy hit.

Instant universal orgasm lasting at least 10 minutes.

This was my second amazing 5-MeO-DMT experience this month. I think it is my new favorite chem, although in a COMPLETELY different way than LSD, which is probably my all-time fave of those I've tried (2C-I, 2C-T-21, 2C-E, DIPT, LSA, 5-MEO-DIPT, 4-HO/ACo-DIPT ... is that it? I thought it was more.) 5-MeO-DMT is a quick intense "high", whereas LSD is an interesting new lifestyle for 12-24 hours.

It's impossible to describe the effect of 5-MeO-DMT at this dose for me, now. I have done this dose before, sober, and was not very impressed. It was mostly body load and a rushing yet stoned feeling. But for some reason, either I have "tuned in" to 5-MeO-DMT finally, or it synergized REALLY well with AMT, but I really did feel I was having a full body orgasm for at least 10 minutes. Everything brightened around me with the "white light", and I writhed in rapturous pleasure. It was mystical, but honestly more sensual than spiritual. It just felt REALLY GOOD, like being hugged by angels.

I am still not sure how much I like AMT. I think, with some nausea precautions next time (light meal instead of empty stomach, maybe a little cannabis at the outset) I will try a higher dose and see if it becomes more psychedelic. I think this one may be like 2C-E for me, which has lots of value at standard dosages but which I have to try at least once at a "maximum strength dose" just to see it's real nature. It was certainly nice at 45mg, and very active visually considering the fairly clear head space.

But the 5-MeO on top of it was THE bomb. If I could, I would recommend it. Alas, I can only reiterate: THE bomb.

EDIT: Later, when I started to feel "cracked out" at around the 6 hour mark, 0.5mg of Xanax helped a lot to mellow the trip out, without totally ending it. Even so, the comedown was pretty uncomfortable and head-achy starting at around 8-9 hours. At T+11:00 my pupils were still HUGE. I took 10mg ambien and it definitely made me calmer, but still too keyed up to sleep.
 
I have tried this combo b4 and was unimmpressed. O well, evey1 is different, glad it was good 4u. I actually prefer the 5meo on it's own, very euphoric. but 5meo is also very different for everone
 
MeanGirl, I would bet you could get similar effects from smoking a medium dose of 5-Meo on top of your other favorite tryptamine. I don't think there was anything super-special about the fact that it was AMT, other than perhaps AMT's possible MAOI action might have colored the 5-MeO in a positive way.

But yeah, don't be jealous! Go forth and research. :)
 
I'm surprised you had less to say about the AMT @ 45mg. I tried the chemical once at 25mg, once I smoked some pot, it kicked my ass.

I am planning to give AMT another go in the next week or two @ 35mg, and I expect it to be an intense experience ( lucky me being sensitive to psychedelic drugs =D ).

All the AMT I've ever seen has smelled like a rank sock with swiss cheese melted over it.

Hmm... taking Xanax at only the 6 hour mark?? T+6:00h was when I was mid-peak on the stuff. And I was still tripping 14 hours after eating the stuff.

Does Ambien work well for you? I've never taken a benzo and melatonin is too weak for things like AMT, MDA, LSD (stuff that keeps ya up).
 
I'm unusually insensitive to indoles and PEA's for the most part. More so for indoles/trypts. I need at least three good hits of acid to consider something a "trip". I figured 45mg of AMT was an aggressive but reasonable place to start for an experienced tripper. I was not wrong, in this case.

I was starting to feel a come-down at 6-7 hours, when I took the xanax. Definitely not peaking anymore, although I had peaked remarkably only a little before then. It is a VERY long chem. Anyway, it just seemed the right time to mellow out a little, not to keep going at full strength. I was starting to feel "stretched".

Ambien: I've been going back and forth between "marginally effetive sleep aid" and "really interesting deliriant". I actually find higher doses of xanax are better for putting me to sleep. Ambien makes me woozy and out of it, to the extent I keep waking up thinking I'm talking to someone who isn't there, etc. Combined with the right psychedelic mindset it can be quite entertaining. Sometimes it helps me sleep, too. :\
 
Re: AMT + 5-MeO-DMT - first time / experienced - The 10-Minute Orgasm

VictorBorge said:
Anyway, shortly after the AMT boost, I came on Bluelight and read something that made me want to do some 5-MeO-DMT. I think it was a combo report about 5mg 5-MeO-DMT combined with low doses of 5-MeO-DIPT and 5-MeO-AMT, or something.
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Hey Victor.. :) Was it this post or this one that you read..? I'm a BIG fan of this combo and thought I was alone in it, not anymore.. :)

5-MeO-DMT on it's own is amazing, but add another substance, like AMT or Ecstacy, and the whole experience becomes more gentle, fuller.. In my eyes, AMT and 5-MeO-DMT have been made for each other. I can't possibly imagine doing 5-MeO-DMT on psilocybin or LSD for example, they have strong enough characters on their own, AMT does not.. Add 5-MeO-DMT to the mix and you're going to have an unforgettable experience..
 
AMT without a smell does sound rather sketchy, but if you knew it was pure, it probably was. All the AMT that I ever had back in its heyday reeked of mothballs and the burn wasn't exactly 'spicy' (More like excruciatingly nauseus).

AMT is smooth, but it drags near the end. That cracked out feeling just goes on and on and on. A little advice on the AMT doseage, it does get very psychedelic, but seems to max out at around 80 mg before the uncomfortable speedy side effects take over. This one does have a ceiling, unless you enjoy having a week long hangover from it.

It might not be the best of ideas, but the only thing that has completely put me out while on AMT is zyprexa. 1.5 mg and a half hour later I had passed out half on/half off of a fouton. Nothing has ever come close to the level of sedation even this tiny amount gives me, and to beat AMT for sleep is no small matter.
 
^ A friend of mine has kept some AMT in a brown mason jar that was stored for over a year and it was still as potent as the day he bought it. I reckon that your sample will be fine as well..
 
^^ If it was in the deep freeze, well sealed, I would bet it hasn't degraded too much to at least sample.

BlowMonkey: actually I'm not sure it was either of your posts that I read that day, although in general your posts on 5-MeO-DMT have always made me feel like doing it. :) I'm pretty sure I never read (or remembered) you were a fan of this particular combo, though. Well, great minds think alike. ;)

liquidchakra, my AMT did definitely have a smell, and a taste. The burps were the worst I've had from any oral chem. I guess mothball-y is fairly accurate. It's more of a classic tryptamine smell, IMO, just very strong. But snorting it wasn't as bad as I'd been led to believe. It was not that much more uncomfortable, in toto, than eating it. (Although since it does not dissolve well, the next morning I still had some powder in my nostrils. Nasty way to wake up).
 
^ The AMT I've worked with, always had a "poop" smell to it, not very nice..
 
As soon as I read the title of this thread I remembered Blowmonkey ;).

Very nice report, Victor. I am VERY hesitant to experiment with AMT due to the nausea and the duration, since I do not live alone, and so I need to be functional all day most days (and those that I am not are psychedelic days ;)).

Anyways, I had to comment though. DPT is my favourite tryptamine, and I tried smoking about 7 mg of 5-MeO-DMT with it and had nothing but a stupid rush and a bad body load.

However, since I found Cannabis to be the catalyst for 5-MeO-DMT, and since I plan on mixing DPT with cannabis the next time I try it, I might as well try 5-MeO-DMT with them...

EDIT: Oh, and the AMT I have smells like an uncleaned public washroom ;)
 
Most of the really "stinky" AMT and its reputation came from the fact that the freebase was what was sold for so long, and it does smell. AMT hcl (which suddenly became the form everyone sold before it was banned) does not have the intense odor.
 
^^ That's interesting. I don't believe my sample is labeled as to whether it's freebase or HCL. I will check, but is there any way to tell for sure without buying a whole test kit?

I now have a hunch mine is probably HCL after all (it was almost certainly synthed since being scheduled. I procured it outside the U.S. very recently). It is very grainy/sand-like, probably closest in appearance to 4-HO-DIPT HCL, and it does not smell as bad as a public washroom. :p
 
Hmm... all AMT I've come across was freebase.

Isn't it true that AMT Hcl is less potent? Perhaps that would partially explain your relatively mild response to AMT by itself.

(I have only seen fluffy AMT... it has been both white and yellowish. I assume the yellowish sample was mishandled)
 
Nice to read this one again. I always say I will never take AMT, but deep down inside I am interested in, say, trying 30mg some day. I am very sensitive to tryptamines, so I imagine 30mg would be sufficient.

I'll make sure I have some benzos and plenty of poppy tea handy for the comedown.
 
bluedolphin said:
Hmm... all AMT I've come across was freebase.

Isn't it true that AMT Hcl is less potent? Perhaps that would partially explain your relatively mild response to AMT by itself.

(I have only seen fluffy AMT... it has been both white and yellowish. I assume the yellowish sample was mishandled)
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I've had both freebase and HCl. Honestly, there was little if ANY difference in dosage between the two. Maybe like an extra milligram or two more of the HCl... but the HCl stores better, as most HCl salts tend to do... and its nice opening the vial and not having to light a couple sticks of incense (not kidding) to cleanse the smell before others find out.
 
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