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Stimulants Amphetamines, how much is too much?

tricomb said:
Am I the only one who doesn't think the word tweaker has a negative connotation? I've always just used it to describe anyone who likes to tweak or use methamp, but it seems like on these boards some people use it as a negative thing... just something random I've noticed. In my own life though, it's always just been how people refer to fellow users of methamp.
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so does junky refering to opiate users... but hey, wat can ya do, people will allways have subtle ways to imply that their drg use isn't as bad as a "tweaker" or a "junky's"
 
Fucked up on Amph sulphate(Euro speed) a few times too. Love the horniness i get from it combined with weed. I'm actually pulling off multiple orgasms, especially with anal stimulation involved. But half a gram of nearly pure shit with low tolerance in 1 hour is a little to much. Benzo/Thiodiazepines are very nice when the initial high has worn off. Adds a second relaxing high, that goed really well with pot.
Peace,
 
RR279 said:
Also, does anyone have any iinks to info on Amp neutoxicity and the like?
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Check, to get brain damage you need to IV 300mg shots for a year or 2. The kind of dose that makes you freeze on your chair for like 20 minutes with your eyes wiggling lol

If you only took oral 200mg a few times u got nothing, you're good to go. The reason why you forget stuff is cause of ADD. You got nothing man, you're just paranoid.

200mg oral is still big dose, I wouldn't go over 60mg. Point is, it's not enough to cause damage in only a few sessions.
 
Ksa said:
Check, to get brain damage you need to IV 300mg shots for a year or 2. The kind of dose that makes you freeze on your chair for like 20 minutes with your eyes wiggling lol

If you only took oral 200mg a few times u got nothing, you're good to go. The reason why you forget stuff is cause of ADD. You got nothing man, you're just paranoid.

200mg oral is still big dose, I wouldn't go over 60mg. Point is, it's not enough to cause damage in only a few sessions.
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Facepalm... There was a study that came out a few years ago using two species of higher primates and the toxic dose was 0.5mg/kg so roughly 35-40mg for a 150lb or 68kg individual. That's the best data we have, I won't mention the researcher's name as it will cause a bunch of e-tards to flip (dude reported the mistake himself and has no agenda as far as I can tell).
 
@phatass, yeah but I use Opioids and Methamp (both are prescribed too), and I refer to people as "tweakers", just because they use methamphetamine, it doesn't carry a negative connotation IMO. Junky IMO does carry a negative connotation, but I don't call opiate users junkies, Junky is a term that IMO implies bad injection practice, and the junky lifestyle of stealing, cheating, etc. When I call people "Stoners" as people who smoke weed, it's not a bad thing, it's just a nickname for people who use cannabis.

So, to summarize:
JUNKY- bad connotation
TWEAKER- no connotation, just a user of (meth)amps
STONER- no connotation, just a user of cannabis


Epsilon Alpha said:
Facepalm... There was a study that came out a few years ago using two species of higher primates and the toxic dose was 0.5mg/kg so roughly 35-40mg for a 150lb or 68kg individual. That's the best data we have, I won't mention the researcher's name as it will cause a bunch of e-tards to flip (dude reported the mistake himself and has no agenda as far as I can tell).
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^This... Listen to EA you guys he knows a metric fuckton more about this stuff than most the rest of us.
 
Currently on about 160mg at the moment, been going for 12 hours or so. I've split up all my pills into 5 mg intervals and told myself I would start at 15 mg and redose 5 mg every 45 minutes at an absolute max if needed to maintain concentration.

I've tried a few times to take medical doeses of my Adderall with no avail, I'm really hoping this time will be different but we'll see. Anyone have any tips? I've started a Microsoft Word doc and laid out blank spots for redosing with explanations as to why I feel the need to redose and promised myself I would abide by the rules. Might sound silly, but I'm just trying to throw in as many new aspects as possible to hopefully make this time different.

Anyone have any other suggestions? My main problem is that once I get any hint of euphoria I HAVE to binge, so I'm hoping that if I can stay below that threshold I might have a chance at making this sucessful.
 
tricomb said:
Am I the only one who doesn't think the word tweaker has a negative connotation? I've always just used it to describe anyone who likes to tweak or use methamp, but it seems like on these boards some people use it as a negative thing... just something random I've noticed. In my own life though, it's always just been how people refer to fellow users of methamp. .
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I take different forms of the word differently depending upon who says it to me.

If I am describing a time that I was high off my ass I would probably say something like "I was twacked out of my mind," which to me, does not have a negative connotation, it just means I was way hi.

When I hear someone describe someone as a 'tweaker,' I imagine a skinny little cockroach scuttling from one corner to another, with darting eyeballs and a crazy look.

'Tweaking,' I see as what I like to call "stuck on stupid." Like, cleaning the nooks in the fridge door for 3 hrs with q-tips or picking at your face or whatever it may be you get stuck on.

If someone I know called me a 'tweaker,' i would hope that it would be in jest, because I generally see that as a negative term.

I hear 'addict' used as a negative term often, which makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever - apparently denial is not just a river in Egypt. I am addicted and I am fully aware of that fact, no problem whatsoever standing up and saying that, but apparently some people I know who use probably more than I do, will not say out loud that they are addicted. I don't understand that.

Anyhoo - if some random calls me a tweaker, there's probably gonna be some words. But the likelihood of that happening I think is slim to none, considering the only meth users I surround myself with can be counted on less than one hand, and I don't look like your textbook 'tweaker' I guess you could say.
 
Yeah, seee, to me, someone calling me an addict isn't a problem, after all it's true, I do not attempt to deny it (to the right crowd) it all depends on who its coming from.
 
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Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
I feel like you've talked about this on every amp topic on OD lol

Just out of curiosity, why chelated magnesium? What's the difference between that and, say, magnesium citrate?
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Hmm, there MUST be some reason I keep mentioning it! That reason, in short, without getting into advanced terms, is that it's the best supplement I've ever had the joy of using with amps and found that it changed my entire experience with amps. The come up, the peak, the comedown, the "crash", the after-effects. One way I can describe it is as the way methamphetamine SHOULD feel.

tricomb said:
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Well toxic to certain measures, hell we all know alcohol is neurotoxic yet people who drink a 750mL bottle of vodka a day for 6 months appear to be just fine long term.

Human neurotoxic measures are very hard to quantify because it's only in retrospect that any differences are seen unless you're huffing a gas MPTP combo. Not to mention for a large variety of drugs the damage, while detectable on some tests, is often mild in the big picture. Like say reducing your didget span memory from 10 to 9 places.

Hope that makes sense, I'm getting a oil change now.
 
Epsilon Alpha said:
Well toxic to certain measures, hell we all know alcohol is neurotoxic yet people who drink a 750mL bottle of vodka a day for 6 months appear to be just fine long term.

Human neurotoxic measures are very hard to quantify because it's only in retrospect that any differences are seen unless you're huffing a gas MPTP combo. Not to mention for a large variety of drugs the damage, while detectable on some tests, is often mild in the big picture. Like say reducing your didget span memory from 10 to 9 places.

Hope that makes sense, I'm getting a oil change now.
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tru tru
 
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