Stimulants Amphetamines, how much is too much?

[stivsmegg]

I was just like you when I was younger. During my first year of college I schemed my way into a fat script of Adderall. I got a 3-month supply in the mail and I would burn through it in a month, maybe a month-and-a-half. When I was out, I'd have to search around and try to nab a couple out of all of my friends' scripts. I was hardly sleeping, lost a ton of weight, and was generally retarded. I couldn't remember anything, wouldn't study for tests properly, and despite the fact I felt like SHIT and wasn't sleeping or eating, I would still take that extra dose of Addy to keep it going. I've run the gamut of addictions and drug use over the years and this was, by far, the one that ran me into the ground the hardest. After about a year and a half of that shit, I went into my quack Indian doctor and told him I would not be seeing him again and that was that. I quit and have only used it a couple times in the last 5 years. (Freebies that were given to me my best friend.)

You need to figure out what changes you can make without stimulant medication to treat your ADHD. Do you really -have- ADHD? What distracts you from the things you need to accomplish? Set aside a schedule, write everything down, of things that you need to accomplish for the day. Look at number one, and do it. Finish it. Completely. Cross it off the list, and move on to number 2. You need to begin training yourself to finish things you start, and do a damn good job. You'll be proud when it begins to work for you. You're a 22-year-old man and you need to focus on your future. You can't rely on speed forever. It's only been a year and you are already feeling the toll it's taking on your body and mind.ps. also very important and very true is how easy quitting stimulants is compared to so many other things i remember kicking 150 mgs of methadone and about 6 mgs a day of klonopin cold turkey in jail,literally shitting myselfand therewas a guy there "kicking"meth he kept saying al i can do is sleep and eat ad i thought i would kill right now for an hours sleep or to even eat, all im saying is w/d when compared to benzos or opiates or even alchaholis non existant your ody will mrely crave what it had lacked for so long,now i ca eat fine on good, clean amphetamine and as long as my temazepam isnt out i sleep too so its a lot easier on my body to begin with. q's comment's?

Just quit that shit man. There's no withdrawal. You'll fiend for a while, you'll feel depressed, you'll crave that sugary goodness. But it goes away. Be glad you won't be tossing cookies and launching yourself off the toilet. You won't ache and have to stretch for hours and hours on end like with H or Methadone. You'll WANT to sleep. You'll WANT to eat. And you'll be better for it. Trust me.

yes! take it from me, i am 33 yrs old, been addicted to heroin almost half my life and now been on methadone on and off for 10 yrs so now a lifer. i started out shooting meth at 15 so i love speed but the heroin ruined my life even more because of the need , now i am in a nursing home/rehabillitation center after a major stroke, in the last 6 months i had to re learn to eat,walk and do about everything and still the whole left side of my body is numb and practically useless, i went through twenty some years shooting whatever i could find so that didnt help but the last 5 years i mostly only took my methadone and still love my herb but my girl has adhd like me only her doc is liberal with the addy so the last year and a half she has been basically sharing her script of 30/30s 3020s(xr btw and 60 20s(ir) and filling scripts early was no problem for the good doctor ...but then the headaches came.....then one day(thank god my girl was there i had a siezure so she called an ambulance,long story short they had to remove 1/3 of my skull and later replace it with a plastic prosthetic..anyway just a story for ya i am just walking with a cane finally and wouldnt ya know today is fuckin pill day so a couple bombs (30xrs and a couple 20s chewed up for good measure im finally feeling no nueropathic pain and for the first time in months im happy! is this smart? opinions differ even among doctors but i am a born addict and feeling good NOW is what i want so i try to d everything ese the docs say and mostly nowits physical rehab getting my left arm and leg working again and im a drummer so getting them to work is a must!just a cautonary/exp tale i hope someone learns something usefull from it. questions welcomed and encouraged -justin
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[benzoheadplus44]

IR dex isomer ftbs...

 

[ebola?]

If you don't want escalating tolerance, you can probably get away with using amphetamines at recreational doses roughly twice a month, maybe even less frequently. You can't really get away with redosing once an hour over several hours and call it a "single use" though.

ebola

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

My tolerance has hardly increased over three months...unless you count the first ten days. I take mg and never abuse my medicine.

 

[General Antonio]

It really depends on the person. For me personally, I would never go over 120 mg of Adderall or more than 3 pts. of speed.. but I also noticed that I developed a rapid tolerance towards amps when I used them. I could take the same dose for about 2 days and on the 3rd, I would have to raise the dosage by about half to get the desired effect. And for me, after one week, I have to take about 2-3x the dose I began with. I would look at factors such as your bodyweight, experience with amps and other personal factors that you would know. If you're never tried amps before, I would say 10-20 mg of adderall or ice would do the trick, but not to go over 25-30 mg on your first time.

EDIT: now that I see what you're asking, the red "line" for most people would likely be the point where mental illnesses or psychosis appear and are directly linked to amphetamine use. Now I would be careful when going on binges.. you have to make sure you eat, drink water and most importantly, SLEEP.

The reason I say sleep is because I stayed up on Adderall and ice for 3 days and ended up going batshit crazy. After the 3rd day of no sleep, I began seeing hallucinatory bug-colonies living in my bedroom.. simple hallucinations turned into an all out psychosis quickly. I began hearing voices, seeing people that weren't there and was convinced that I was being followed by the Channel 7 News everywhere. I said enough was enough, and called 911.

Now, the hospital is a story of its own... the ambulance rolls up to my house, i get in, get a shot of Ativan in the ambulance and briefly stop hallucinating long enough to give them my information and answer their questions. As soon as I get into a hospital bed, the delusions and hallucinations begin again..I ended believing I was Luke Skywalker and I needed to make a great escape from the hospital and find Han Solo's "spaceship" as well as Chewbacca. So, I ended up taking off my clothes, ripping the IV's out of me and tried to make a "great escape" from the hospital naked in a busy city. I even managed to make it out of the hospital being chased by all sorts of paramedics and police officers..they eventually caught me, and I have one memory of me taking on about 5 police officers and socking one right in the face and knocking him down. I blacked out after that memory (I later found out this actually happened, and I was very lucky not to be charged with a crime after trying to do battle with the cops) Anyways, the next day I came to in the hospital bed with stitches in 3 different places, a black eye, two broken fingers and one broken rib from my battle with the police officers. I explained to the doctor what actually happened and why i called 911 on myself, and she told me that the psychosis was not relative to taking amphetamines, but rather, not sleeping for 3 days with the amphetamines only further aggravating the sleep deprivation distortions. After that lesson, I swore never to stay up all night on amps again. I don't know how or why but I am incredibly thankful that I did not get into serious trouble because of that night.. no charges were filed by the police because they knew I was absolutely out of my mind and the doctor that treated me that night sent me a card a week later hoping I was doing better

In your case, i would be careful.. it seems so much fun at the time to go on a bender with amps, but if you do not do it properly, it can have serious consequences (read the story above). This happened 3 years ago, and I learned a lot from that one night and am incredibly thankful there were no lasting consequences. I'd say focus on your health and your mental health.. if you believe either begins to deteriorate, i would stop taking amps immediately.. it's just not worth it to play russian roulette with your mind just because you wanted to party

 

[weekend addiction]

My limit is relatively low. Basically when speed stops feeling "comfortable", and starts to be a series of side-effects then its time to stop. The one thing about amphetamines is they usually give you hints about when a good time to stop is.

 

[ebola?]

My tolerance has hardly increased over three months...unless you count the first ten days. I take mg and never abuse my medicine.

Right, but I'm talking about recreational-level doses, and maintaining a consistent response over a multi-year period.

 

[opiatekrzy]

i believe amphetamines (adderall, dexedrine), and other synthetic meth-amphetamines(crystal meth), MDMA, MDA, are the most euphoric drugs known to man..especially a good dose of pure MDMA (molly, or in pill form)...they are all great for sex exhancement, me and my fiancee use adderall strictly for sex enhancment and exploring eachothers bodies with such intense rushes when touching eachother from the stimulating qualities of these drugs..im leaving cocaine out of this, that is a short acting feignish drug that has no spirituality connected to it..expcept increased libido

 

[FastestGrlInTown]

The worst part of coming down for me is the depressing realization that I'm going to have to deal with how out of hand my bingeing has gotten, and what the hell I'm going to do. Adderall doesn't feel good anymore, I "blew my load" early on, so to speak. i'm popping 15mg IRs like candy and staying up for a week w/o sleep, I'm avoiding people because of how horrible I look-I don't want them catching on. So I pop another 15mg IR, get some ice water, get my notebook and pen, hang out in my bed with my cat, listen to Spotify and ignore my calls/texts. Sometimes I'll make messy, scattered lists of things that make no sense, and sometimes I'll try to write like I always have and I just stare at the paper...and pop another 15mg IR.

 

[Ksa]

The worst part of coming down for me is the depressing realization that I'm going to have to deal with how out of hand my bingeing has gotten, and what the hell I'm going to do. Adderall doesn't feel good anymore, I "blew my load" early on, so to speak. i'm popping 15mg IRs like candy and staying up for a week w/o sleep, I'm avoiding people because of how horrible I look-I don't want them catching on. So I pop another 15mg IR, get some ice water, get my notebook and pen, hang out in my bed with my cat, listen to Spotify and ignore my calls/texts. Sometimes I'll make messy, scattered lists of things that make no sense, and sometimes I'll try to write like I always have and I just stare at the paper...and pop another 15mg IR.

This is insane, why do you do that? Can't you be having a great time with your boyfriend while you pop these? Why do you sit by yourself with a piece of paper? Makes no sense to me. Objectively speaking, this is a painful waste of expensive substance and brain chemistry. You're completely de-railed here lol, this is not how these drugs are used, even recreationally. No one recreates himself with Adderall in this way.

 

[FastestGrlInTown]

Hence, why I said it's getting out of hand. I stopped the binge, I just derailed.
I completely agree with you. I'm prescribed 3 15mg a day as a neurostimulator, I'm on some other psych meds. Just stickin' with the plan from here on out.

 

[opiatekrzy]

some people get OCD on speed, like me, i stay glued on the CPU, or cleaning my house if im alone, if im with my girl, and we pop speed 2gether, she will be in one corner of the room doing her own thing (organizing, writing etc) while ill be in another section of the house doing MY own thing...

 

[drancer]

For me its anything more than 60mg of meth, but I am talking high purity stuff here of course. Any more and I would feel so nauseous the next day. Interesting that for me at least, "less is more".
Even with this tiny amount by some people's standards you can count on me rubbing my dick raw for 4hrs+ to my terabyte stash of porn, coming out of the room to take a strangulated piss or to stagger outside for another good rip of the bong to keep the fucked up headspace going. Blow my load, lie down for half an hour with a box of nangs, then rinse and repeat! bliss.

 

[opiatekrzy]

less is more. that is true with amphetamines lately in my life. when i take a lower dose then i usually take (which my recreational dose is 60-90mgs adderall), but when i take a lower dose, like 20mg-40mg MAX i feel a smoother calmer high, it doesnt last as long duration wise verse 60-90, but the crash is alot lighter, and i find it enjoyable and low doses too, im more social on lower doses, and functional, when i go into my recreational dose or ++, i get tweaked, OCD, cleaning, up for days, anti social, sex, sex sex on my mind all the time, or masturbating for 6hr periods online porn, or with my girl if we take speed together, we have sex 10 hrs at a time..so yeah i can see why less is more...i only like to get fucking TWEAKED mainly just when im with my girl so we can have out 10hr sex sessions, and be more secure with eachother and kinkier in bed, i just use it mostly for sex ehancement, it brings out more emotional/passionate/freaky tendencies for both me and my girl, which i find beneficial. i try to avoid speed if i dont have opiates or benzos...cuz when we crash, me and her act weird around eachother, not talking, glancing at eachother back and forth and keep asking "are u okay??" when clearly were both not. egh...i only like being tweaked for the sex and being with my girl, or when i wanna be alone and stay online all day or clean my house.

 

[opiatekrzy]

For me its anything more than 60mg of meth, but I am talking high purity stuff here of course. Any more and I would feel so nauseous the next day. Interesting that for me at least, "less is more".
Even with this tiny amount by some people's standards you can count on me rubbing my dick raw for 4hrs+ to my terabyte stash of porn, coming out of the room to take a strangulated piss or to stagger outside for another good rip of the bong to keep the fucked up headspace going. Blow my load, lie down for half an hour with a box of nangs, then rinse and repeat! bliss.

true fucking that! i popped adderalls all day yesterday by myself, i was masturabting from 11pm-4am, in a fucked up mind warp of my own, its like another high of its own, masturabting/sex on amphetamines, i usually do this when im coming down, sometimes ill get right to the sexual as im peaking for ultimate intense pleasure. but i prefer me and my girl doing it together, idk im weird...speed makes people weird.