Stimulants amphetamines and benzos

[Aphex747]

hey guys, im hoping this one stays up as its clearly not blog material, or a continuation of an applying megathread. ok, this question isnt quite in depth to require the ADD section, but more of a question for some of the more hardcore members and amphetamine enthusiasts.

I did some benzos today. nothing too crazy, i have a very tiny tolerance, did 5.5 mg etizolam two days ago over a 12 hour period, spaced out evenly.so i was a good boy and didnt do any yesterday, obeying my mandatory once a week benzo undulgence, along with my 1x a week opiate indulgence. i try to balance my favorte substances 1 day a week, with a regular day of just smoking cannabis inbetween, to kind of keep myself occupied, out of trouble, and away from more hard chemicals and narcotics.

well this is my main question...i took some benzos today, and waaay later a friend stopped by with a 30mg orange adderall with the 4-way split in the back. i was leery about trying this, even tho it seemed lke the uncertainty i had was shore to fade any moment after a second thought. well i did half of it at 1230pm and the other half at 130pm. i basically wanted to make sure it wasnt as "gross" or dirty of an experience as i hear people mention how the levoamphetamine is places in there with the d-amp salts to kind of make it "abuse proof" i guess...it reminds me of how they put apap codeine in vicodin, darvocet, tylentol 3, percocet, and many many others, to prevent opiate users from getting high. they figure users will have organ failure or make the liver shut down, or at the very least get dizzy, sick, throwing up and wishing you didnt have to take pain pills.

i took

400pm- 2mg etizolam

715pm- 1.5mg etizolam

9pm- .5mg alazproam(tried to bring back my minor etizolam buzz.)

930pm- .5 mg alazopram(another failed attempt, i realized at this point the the other ha
1mg xanax should have either been used at 930 as a full 1 gram xanax boost)

1045pm- 1 mg etizolam (epic fail at trying to revive the benzo/xanax train that didnt properly leave the station)

1045pm- 1mg etizolam

then (30mg orange 4-way split adderall)

1230am - 30mg adderal (half of the orange tab)

130am- -30 mg adderall is swallowed after feeling the benzos slowing down and the a very warm, calm, alertness.Lol i havent stopped typing since they have kicked in, but after all the research i did on adderall and finding its not a very desirable adhd med,compared to the many others. i am pleasently surprised by the mellow and productiveness of it. i havent really encountered any jitters yet or that bad taste in my mouth, but i can still feel myself, somewhat climbing. not as strong or euphoric of a climb as i wish. but still cool nonetheless.

-however im wondering, to any frequent adderall users out there. does this sounds pretty normal since i didnt go overboard and have a slight stimulant tolerance from a few says ago? is it a relative clean substance, or did the benzos i loaded up on the previous 8 hours take all the edges off? just curious bc i may have a new found appreciation for adderall, even tho dextromethamphetamine (time release) in the orange and black capsules may always be my favorite...since i cant get my doctor to prescribe those for my Adult ADD, im thinking adderal in a conservative amount, 30 mg oral dose seems pretty smooth and beneficial. im pretty sure the benzos helped but i dont really notice them taking away scatterbrained`ness. so much, but i am slightly sedated.

if i end up doing adderal in the future, or any amp, i will not do it on a night ive been testing the strength of my new benzo shipment. everything went really great, but im thinking i could have been alot more productive around the house and doing things i have been putting off, like vaccuming, sweeping, and mopping. i just have that stimulation where i could talk. and its that clean stimulation where you dont keep having brain farts and losing your sentance or train of thought. any thoughts on this one guys?i know its no alternative to fluoral amps, but hey, im trying.

thanks for any input guys. since 2FMA and 4FA were my new favorites, and they are soon to be no longer available (i hope im wrong) im trying to go the legit way and get some functional amphetamines for my many many peronality disorders! : D


now i guess here my question after giving you my outline over the evening.

i started out

 

[Tryptamino]

but there is no question....

 

[tricomb]

There are a few questions although I don't think this is really appropriate for OD, it's like like the worst trip report ever lol (no offense mate!). Probably going to end up closing this.

A few things:

1) There's no dextro-methamphetamine time release currently, or even recently rather, in formulation in the US, the only dextro-meth exists as IR Desoxyn.

2) You keep asking for thoughts? My thoughts are, you're tweaking and on benzodiazepines.

3) A gram of "alazoproam" is one helluva xanax boost.

4) You aren't complaining of any side effects yet, and that's probably due to the amount of benzodiazepines you're on, however I'd be interesting to hear about how the come-down goes.

 

[Aphex747]

Lol my bad, yea i think i got lost in what i was trying to say...it went well tho Lol. i think i got distracted at my main thought, but i havent dont any more benzos since 10pm after i split that 1 mg football. i think the benzos dulled the buzz down alot, but i do feel focused now but not overly in any way. Lol i will clean post up, i apologize, i seriously had no idea i left off like that.

i think what i was trying to ask...is there anyway to remove the l-amp from adderall and just get the d-amp from it safely, like a cold water extraction? and it doesnt sound like as good of an idea as it did 15 minutes ago. i meant well when i started that post but somthing weird happened. (TR i would be honored if u wanted to put this into the trip report.)

and the wierd this is i fee completely sober all of a sudden. like im not tired but i dont feel the adderall. it completely wore off in like 4 hours. Lol after MONTHS of trying to get legit etizolam i finally got some two days ago, so i will admitt ive been indulging a little bit, but with some regard. no more for at least a week!

 

[Aphex747]

oh! and i was hoping someone could give me a quick off the cuff comparison to the fluoral amps and the adderall. it was slightly similar in the respects that i was in a really good well being mood, that wasnt jittry or up and down. but those benzos may have made it alot easier on me so i really cant be too sure

oh yeah and tc i used to get dexedrine back in the late 90's. 3 of them capsules and i was up for dayyyys lol

 

[Znegative]

IME 4-fA is nothing like Dextroamphetamine. But more like MDMA. I'm sure others will argue.

The effects you describe are similar to those I get. I use adderall or dexadrine (usually adderall) pretty frequently, usually he same ones you talk of. I tend to stick with max dosages of 40mg, because IMO, anything above that does start to feel kind of nasty due to the L-amp. The desirable effects usually do end after about four hours, amd then you need to be prepared to spend some time feeling depressed, lethargic, basically the opposite of how you'd be feelin 30 minutes after consuming amphetamines.

Also, when using amps, I find that while it's okay to take a little alprazolam or clonazepam beforehand, taking it afterwards will kill the amphetamine effects, so save it for the crash if you've already taken Dextroamphetamine.

 

[Aphex747]

^i agree 4fa has that airflow and controllable talkativeness to it, as well as makes music sound like that mdma sound enhancement. (not QUITE as intense, but its in the same vein) 4fa actually makes me sing to the music when its on. i havent listened to any music the entire time on adderall or 2fma. im not sure which i like better. 4fa is clean and has the music aspect, 2fma seems to be more steady and stimulating. i sometimes think i like it more because i can play the same video game for 12 hours straight on it, without taking a break. just going to the bathroom and grabbing water inbetween matches.


i still havent slept yet lol. i took that 30mg adderall around midnight and yea the benzos did make it bland. the best way to describe it, was i just felt really good and natural. almost like an afterglow with a positive confidence. yea i used to do the blue adderall back in the day and yuck! lol...the one i took last night may have had more of a comedown if i wasnt benzoed out already. i havent taken any tho since around 10 or 11 last night. im not doing anymore etizolam until i finish off my 4fa next friday. they are really fun and easy to pop like candy, but you gotta cut that shit out before you feel trapped by it. i came down from that adderall all the way at like 6am. weirdly, i wasnt tired, i felt like i just woke up refreshed tho.

then at 730 am, i took 70 mg oral of 2fma to stimulate me and make me do stuff. i ended up rearranging my whole bedroom, which ive been putting off, tons of little stuff around the house, and i even started some giant projects on a whim. i have a long closet but it has just a regular door so i cant get in it very far without knocking stuff over. i got out all my tools, and cut a giant walk in closet out of my bedroom wall. it actually ads a nice touch to my room. it feels more open and spacious. ah and then i couldnt really feel the 2fma as much anymore even tho i was clearly stimulated from it. so i took another 100mg at 10:45 (about 2 hours ago). it definitely made time start flying by again and made me interested in every little crevice of my house instead of sitting on my couch like a sloth all day, procrastinating. i also installed some new locks on the bedroom doors in my house. everything went smooth, i actually felt like i knew what i was doing. in hinds sight (no regrets at this point) i shoulda took the larger (100mg) dose 1st and i woulda prolly got ALOT more out of it. i didnt really notice the 75 mg come on with any kind of peak. just kinda noticed i was more collected. i didnt really feel too much noticable from the 175 mg of 2fma i did, now that i think about it. they just kind of added to what i had i guess. couldnt tell anything really specific was changing. ive heard people say when you get tolerant to 2fma, not even its euphoria but it looses it fun! its like a mundane stimulation. today was the 1st time since i got my gram of 2fma a month ago, that i did 2 strong doses and didnt really get alot from them. hmmm its probably tolerance from the adderall. the only other thing it could be is the etizolam i took 11 hours before my 2fma could have dulled it. i dont think the adderall wouldve done that.

at this point im certainly not doing any more amphetamines or benzos for a while. 1 reason because im running low and i want to save what i have left for a worthwhile time. 2, because ive been trying to find the next best vendor, from my old portugese one. i know a reliable place to get more BUT they want me to buy 10 grams minimum and wow....1 gram of 2fma is more than enough, so that kinda sucks.

i think amphetamines are extremely beneficial to our health if we use them sparingly and dont over exert ourselves on them. without amps, i am alot like a sloth. people tell me to check out a youtube video and im NEVER interested, i for some reason just think its gonna be dumb or a waste of my time. but when im amped, i care ALOT more about what people are saying to me than i normally do. im kind of a closed up, awkward loner, without em. not saying i need them everyday, but almost just as ecstasy can be beneficial and help you break through personal walls you didnt even know were there. it also gives me the confidence to make decisions and not waver on them or be uncertain and i feel like my anxiety goes away when i take them.

its either from abusing waaay too many amps as a teenager/adolescent, or i actually really need to be prescribed some kind of clean, functional, slightly euphoric stimulant. forget about asking for librium next time i go. they prolly get kickbacks for writing add scrips. sorry about my rambling. but i think i figured out exactly what i need once in a while.