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Amphetamine/Methamphetamine dosed, and then cocaine dosed, shouldn't this potentiate?

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potentiate the euphoria? (title got cut off)

I first off want too make it clear that I am fully aware of how dangerous it is to combine a potent stimulent like amphetamine/methamphetamine with another potent stimulant like cocaine. This is entirely hypothetically speaking as I have never even done meth and don't do cocaine anymore.

Anyways, in theory shouldn't dosing amphetamines/methamphetamine prior to using cocaine (or any other dopamine re-uptake inhibitor, such as ethylphenidate or methylphenidate) increase the euphoria drastically? I'm talking even in just small doses of each because:

Amphetamine is primarly a dopamine/norepinephrine RELEASER of stored or newly synthesized dopamine & norepinephrine & a bit of serotonin.

Cocaine on the other hand basically traps dopamine from being allowed back into the receptors via DNRI, (dopamine/norephine re-uptake inhibition),
because biologically, cocaine acts as a serotonin–norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor, also known as a triple reuptake inhibitor (TRI).

Sooo theoretically, if amphetamines/methamphetamine release massive amounts of dopamine, and then cocaine inhibits these "feel good, euphoria causing" chemicals from re-uptaking, shouldn't you get double or more the euphoria from the high. (as I've read meth can release up to 1200% more dopamine than is regularly active in the brain at once, where as if I remember correctly cocaine only releases around 300-400% more dopamine, but also prevents re-uptake which is what causes the more sudden euphoric high compared to meth, but only lasts for a much shorter period of time, because cokes half life is far shorter than the half life of amphs/methamph)
Larger amounts of dopamine are going to be active in the brain then either of those stimulants alone would allow, theoretically.

Once again this is entirely theoretically speaking, and I really have no solid evidence proving this would work, and I know that combining potent stims is asking for a heart attack and should never be done regardless, but just entirely theoretically speaking if you were to say, combine a low dose of meth, like say 30-50mg's insufflated/orally consumed, and then snorted cocaine after in just small amounts after (like 20-50mg lines, reasonably spaced out), would this not provide a far more euphoric high, or at least far more euphoric high than 50mg's of meth alone, or 50mg's of cocaine alone would provide?
 
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I've read that reuptake inhibitors (i.e. cocaine in this example) tend to drown out the euphoric/recreational effects of releasers (the d-amp/d-m-amp)...

Best example I've heard of this phenomenon is MDMA+Cocaine...
 
I've read that reuptake inhibitors (i.e. cocaine in this example) tend to drown out the euphoric/recreational effects of releasers (the d-amp/d-m-amp)...

Best example I've heard of this phenomenon is MDMA+Cocaine...

Yes, I've heard the same thing, but I've heard the opposite too.

I've read reports where people rolling on MDMA said that using cocaine during their peak dulled it, but at the same time I've read reports where people said that cocaine during their peak made it FAR BETTER.

Either way, MDMA + Cocaine is still quite different from amph/methamph + cocaine because MDMA is dominately a serotonin releaser and has little effect on dopamine, thus it would make sense that for some people the added dopamine/norepinephrine chemical addition to the MDMA high could potentially dull it, or ruin it all together. But I'm not talking about MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine), because although it has methylamphetamine in its chemical name, its actual method of action is totally different from methamphetamine or regular amphetamine, as it has little effect on the dopamine and norepinephrine pathways and its high comes mostly just from its massive serotonin release.

That's why I'm wondering if amph/meth in a reasonably low dose + cocaine used after would increase euphoria because of how the drugs themselves work, VIA their mechanisms of action.
 
Not really OT but...

Cocaine on the other hand basically traps dopamine from being allowed back into the receptors via DNRI, (dopamine/norephine re-uptake inhibition),
because biologically, cocaine acts as a serotonin–norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor, also known as a triple reuptake inhibitor (TRI).

Seriously ? I thought it was only a DRI an NRI. It sure doesn't feel like it has an effect on serotonin for me, and I believe i can differentiate between dopamine and serotonin.
That's actually the reason I don't like cocaine. Doesn't seem to do anything for me other than elevate heart rate. I'm all for the serotoninergics ! ;)
 
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