amphetamine is killing the coke!

[swybs]

and, not to break the stream of thoughts here, but a reminder to everyone (including young g), clear ur PM inboxes, even if it means clearing sent messages (if you want to save your recd messages).

But, alas, this has been one of the better threads at BL lately (OD at least). FYI, DEA captured more pre-US soil seizures of active-cut adultertated cocaine...see microgram August and September (I think)....

swybs

 

[rachamim18]

Swybs...

You already showed us that with the 3 seizures that had the stimulant in it, remember?

 

[Kastr0]

Yah Le Junk you are definately the mac daddy of coke purification, I read at the beginning of the post someone said they referred your techniques and to say the truth - so have I!

You have done a good job (and please, continue to do so), im sure your information has gone far.

Good job man!

 

[Coolio]

Le Junk, what method of administration do you use for cocaine. I've never tried snorting it, but I can't imagine that it would produce the wonderful effects you describe for me personally.

 

[Le Junk]

Le Junk, what method of administration do you use for cocaine. I've never tried snorting it, but I can't imagine that it would produce the wonderful effects you describe for me personally.

Snorting it is all I ever do. I've smoked it a few times for shits and giggles, but it really wasn't my bag.

As far as not imagining that it could or would produce those wonderful feelings is proof positive that cocaine quality has taken a crap.

Why do you think cocaine became so popular in the 70's and 80's. The disco days of Studio 54 and all that stuff! Well, it certainly didn't become popular for making you feel like shit, I can tell you that.

If you read any literature at all on the effects of cocaine you will see that all of the feelings I've described are exactly what your supposed to get off of cocaine.

Within a few minutes of snorting a couple lines, you should, and I repeat should, fell these feelings:

a total loss of depression and anxiety
a sudden onset of mental and physical clarity
increased talkativeness
euphoria that only rivals that of MDMA
super increased libido
feeling of though everything in the world is just right and perfect

After even two days of straight use, there should be NO feelings of anxiety, edgyness, non-talkativeness, ampyness, discomfort or paranoia.

These negative feelings only come from adulterated cocaine

Unmolested cocaine is the most wonderful drug you can do. Unlike E, it's effects can go on for hours or even days with no change in it's high. It is a beautiful drug that has unfortunately been adulterated down to a mere shell of it's former glory.

 

[alasdairm]

Originally posted by Le Junk
Unmolested cocaine is the most wonderful drug you can do.

perhaps you meant to write "Unmolested cocaine is the most wonderful drug I can do."?



alasdair

 

[Le Junk]

Originally posted by Le Junk
Unmolested cocaine is the most wonderful drug you can do.

perhaps you meant to write "Unmolested cocaine is the most wonderful drug I can do."?



alasdair

If "I" could actually still find any, that might be true. lol But I thought if he did come across the "real deal", then "you" would be refering to him, instead of me. Right?

 

[Coolio]

[quot]After even two days of straight use, there should be NO feelings of anxiety, edgyness, non-talkativeness, ampyness, discomfort or paranoia.

These negative feelings only come from adulterated cocaine[/quot]


This is completely untrue. Any dopaminergic drugs cause these effects at comedown to some degree, even caffeine. The more dopamine that was released over a longer period of time, the worse the side effects are. None of these are side effects of 'adulterants', they're part of natural human biology.


As far as the positive effects you list, while sober I never experience anxiety or depression, I almost always have more mental and physical clarity than I know what to do with, and I wouldn't even know how to gauge my libido.. how can you tell if you're suddenly more horny? I'm always horny.

The only thing I would be interested in cocaine for is the euphoria. And smoking cocaine freebase doesn't cause any more euphoria than caffeine for me personally, just intense cravings for more immediately despite the fact that I didn't get high from the last hit. IV cocaine is nice, but it's not even quite as euphoric as IV heroin, and definitely not as euphoric as MDMA or psychedelics.

I experience absolutely no side effects from cocaine, man, I just don't get a worthwhile high. Maybe if the shit was $1/gram and I could hook up an IV tube to myself dripping a few hundred milligrams every minute it'd be more worthwhile.

 

[TickingAway]

Ok so amphetamine doesn't dissolve in acetone which rules out the "easy way to clean cocaine." Would this mean that I could use the "easy way" to clean up meth too?

 

[TickingAway]

fizzacyst,


Cocaine should never make you feel as though you are going to OD. Not unless you'd been up doing it for 3 days straight or something.
It barely feels as though its even elevated in the first place. You don't crave, crash or anything. And you certainly don't consume alot either. Mostly because you don't crash after the buzz starts to wear off.

Alright Le Junk I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything because I have tried all the methods you have posted about cleaning cocaine and I find them very usefull. I'd also like you to know I appreciate that you have taken the time, and money, gone through trial and error, research after research, just so we can do better coke. (In other words you are some what of a savior). But after basically reading all the debating posts in this thread I have found some things that you have said about coke, to my opinion, contradictory. First off the part about you saying that cocaine should never make you feel as though you are going to OD. After trying your latest method of cleaning up coke, I had a little sniffing session myself and I did OD. The described characteristics of a cocaine overdose are hallucinations, rapid heart beat, etc. When I OD'd I had done about a gram of the cleaned up product and had consumed a small amount of alcohol, which may account for the OD. I had just done my last line and the walls were breathing similar to some of my previous shroom and acid trips. I couldn't distinguish what words I were speaking because even though actual words, they all sounded like they weren't real, or like I was saying them wrong. I went to the emergency room and was kept overnight, thank god I didn't die. Anyways that's it for the OD part, sorry I was sort of rambiling. You are also saying that cocaine should not have a speedy effect to it. This ultimatly depends on the person using it I think. Think of it this way, Ampthetamine which is an upper to most people, calms down people diagnosed with ADD. While in rehab in my teen years I remember a councelor saying that coke, being a stimulant has the same calming effect on people with ADD. I asked one of my old cokehead friends who also had ADD if coke made him speedy or calm and he said it calmed him down. Now we both know that the coke he has done isn't pure because lets face it, most of us will never come near to pure coke unless we clean it up. You were also stating that you shouldn't crave for it when you are coming down. Now remember I'm not trying to argue or anything but this statement just seems extremely absurd. Think of it in this perspective. When the government ( DEA, FBI, etc...) or whoever does experiments on cocaine do the experiments the results come out like this; mice after being given cocaine will hit the little button to get more over and over and over and will choose cocaine before even food or water. I'm pretty sure that the cocaine they use in these experiments is close to if not pure cocaine. Once again this theory could be wrong because obviously we are not mice. But cocaine in itself is one of the most addicting drugs there is. Anyways that's all I have to say. Once again thanks for all the work you have done.

 

[lifeisforliving]

^^^ Sorry to hear about the problem you had.

Yes, cocaine (even "pure") can and will give an OD if used excessively. It is definately NOT anywhere near the safest of drugs.

For regular cocaine users, the difference between adulterant-free cocaine and cocaine that is laced with ephedrine is IMMENSE.

Typically I'd do about 2 grams a night when partying. This amount, when free of ephedrine, gives no feelings of "heart problems" or other paranoia issues. When I do the adulterated coke, after 1 gram or so I'm just fucked up and not wanting to talk to anybody and go fixate on my computer until the cravings go away and I can sleep - it's not fun.

Your warning is one everyone should heed - and I hope people aren't thinking that cleaned up coke is SAFE. It's never really safe, you have to be moderate in your usage and have good overall health. Even then, there are some people where even .2 or .3 of a gram will send them to the hospital.

If you are a newbie to cocaine - please also keep a couple benzo's around just in case you start feeling panicky. If the worst happens, at least you can take the edge off if you feel you are ODing.