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amphetamine is killing the coke!
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lifeisforliving
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Coke in Canada
The coke in Canada is still hit and miss. For some strange reason the coke from BC is better than the stuff in Toronto.. I would think the opposite would be true but... I just end up asking a friend to buy some and send it over
A few months ago I got an 8ball from Vancouver and an 8ball from Toronto. The difference is SOOOO easy to tell. From the first bump you can tell the difference.
On the good stuff I can actually sleep as long as I stop around 2am or so - not at ALL so with the stuff from Toronto... I'm sitting staring at the walls for like 8 hours after BEGGING myself to fall asleep.
The coke in Canada is still hit and miss. For some strange reason the coke from BC is better than the stuff in Toronto.. I would think the opposite would be true but... I just end up asking a friend to buy some and send it over
A few months ago I got an 8ball from Vancouver and an 8ball from Toronto. The difference is SOOOO easy to tell. From the first bump you can tell the difference.
On the good stuff I can actually sleep as long as I stop around 2am or so - not at ALL so with the stuff from Toronto... I'm sitting staring at the walls for like 8 hours after BEGGING myself to fall asleep.
rachamim18
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Swybs...
Swybs: Indeed, Microgram's latest offering [nonclassified that is] does say exactly that. However, that is the first mention of it happening anywhere. Granted [again] that if it is popping up in reports then it more than likely has been happening for a while. However, 10 YEARS??? The effects Junk [and others] describe are part and parcel of the experience. Coke, is a stimulant. The overall effects [aside from the subjective euphoria etc.] are simply part and parcel of the stimulant experience.
Again, the phenomenon Junk mentions has been noticed in other places and at other times. Studies have even dealt with it. The studies undertaken have not proven his assertion. On a subjective level, living here in the S. Bronx, having been in the game for over 2 and a half decades, I do not see it. I certainly see people saying that all the drugs were better back then [pick your era]...which is funny when purity reports state that drugs have never been purer. Case in point, I myself have often said the same about heroin [before really examining the issue]. When I had my last major felony [almost 20 years ago] the heroin was assayed at 8%. The heroin, for those that know and/or care, was a famous brand [DOA, formerly Platoon, formerly LES]. That heroin was one of the best on the street in the mid to late 80s [even into the early 90s]. yet, if one were to compare it to todays offerings in terms of purity they would laugh...
Perception is a funny animal. People that care about it know the stories about the "placebo effect" and how varied each person's relation of it is. Even if 3 recent shipments were seen to contain a level 1 stim...they could have very well originated from the same area. In fact, being that they were intercepted at sea leads one to intelligently offer that the coke had never been to Mexico. As far as Mexicans being able to do it at a cost effective level...that is probably true. Still, is it a trend that effects most of N. America? I doubt it.
Swybs: Indeed, Microgram's latest offering [nonclassified that is] does say exactly that. However, that is the first mention of it happening anywhere. Granted [again] that if it is popping up in reports then it more than likely has been happening for a while. However, 10 YEARS??? The effects Junk [and others] describe are part and parcel of the experience. Coke, is a stimulant. The overall effects [aside from the subjective euphoria etc.] are simply part and parcel of the stimulant experience.
Again, the phenomenon Junk mentions has been noticed in other places and at other times. Studies have even dealt with it. The studies undertaken have not proven his assertion. On a subjective level, living here in the S. Bronx, having been in the game for over 2 and a half decades, I do not see it. I certainly see people saying that all the drugs were better back then [pick your era]...which is funny when purity reports state that drugs have never been purer. Case in point, I myself have often said the same about heroin [before really examining the issue]. When I had my last major felony [almost 20 years ago] the heroin was assayed at 8%. The heroin, for those that know and/or care, was a famous brand [DOA, formerly Platoon, formerly LES]. That heroin was one of the best on the street in the mid to late 80s [even into the early 90s]. yet, if one were to compare it to todays offerings in terms of purity they would laugh...
Perception is a funny animal. People that care about it know the stories about the "placebo effect" and how varied each person's relation of it is. Even if 3 recent shipments were seen to contain a level 1 stim...they could have very well originated from the same area. In fact, being that they were intercepted at sea leads one to intelligently offer that the coke had never been to Mexico. As far as Mexicans being able to do it at a cost effective level...that is probably true. Still, is it a trend that effects most of N. America? I doubt it.
fastandbulbous
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I've only ever had cocaine a half dozen times (can't say I like myself on it), but I really like amphetamine, and the last time I had any coke (about a year and a half ago), it did seem more like amphetamine that the first couple of times I tried it; I know that the first couple of times, the cocaine was unadulterated, as it was from a bottle that was part of the contents of a CD cabinet from a pharmacy. The first couple of times I had it, I became an obnoxiuous arsehole, so it's not so much that I don't like it, more that I don't like who I become under the influence of it.
The last time I had some, I thought that possibly I was starting to understand it more, and not behaving like an arsehole, but after what Le Junk and swybs have posted about adulterants, it may be that it's more that I wasn't getting as large a dose (I wouldn't think that they'd use different adulterants for the European/UK market).
What the hell, amphetamine is cheaper, easier to get and easier to clean up/remove crap from, and I definitely prefer it; bit of a bastard for coke afficionados though, wherever they live
The last time I had some, I thought that possibly I was starting to understand it more, and not behaving like an arsehole, but after what Le Junk and swybs have posted about adulterants, it may be that it's more that I wasn't getting as large a dose (I wouldn't think that they'd use different adulterants for the European/UK market).
What the hell, amphetamine is cheaper, easier to get and easier to clean up/remove crap from, and I definitely prefer it; bit of a bastard for coke afficionados though, wherever they live
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I'm not presenting an opinion on this subject, BUT I wanted to mention...keep in mind that the Microgram usually lists busts that are unusual in some respect, typically either because of composition or geographical area. Note just how many entries say something like "this is the first time such a sample has ever been submitted to this lab."
while many entries say that, this is not the first time such a finding has been made. I have heard of this on smaller scales, from someone who is in higher law enforcement.
Not to say the quantities are not high, which makes it unique. I think that the fact that testing cocaine for active cuts is such a difficult test makes it difficult for the average joe or even advanced chemist to find out what, if any, active cuts exist in cocaine these days.
swybs
Not to say the quantities are not high, which makes it unique. I think that the fact that testing cocaine for active cuts is such a difficult test makes it difficult for the average joe or even advanced chemist to find out what, if any, active cuts exist in cocaine these days.
swybs
Le Junk
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your lucky your in the Bronx........
Let me first start by saying that purity levels have absolutely nothing to do with the actual buzz if the cocaine has been adulterated with any active substances.
For example, a specimen of cocaine that is 51% pure and adulterated with just mannitol (most likely, a very good estimate of what I was doing in the 80's) would be the "real deal' as far as I'm concerned. I may have to do a little more to achieve the desired high, but it wouldn't be a negative experience.
Now on the other hand, if the specimen of cocaine was 83% pure while being adulterated with ephedrine, the desired high would and could never be achieved. In actuality, the more you did, the more negative the effects would be. So lets rule out purity levels. They mean nothing.
Secondly, when I described the cocaine of yesteryear being better, I should have probably given a more precise meaning of better.
Whereas you may think I'm just saying that it was outstanding then vs. good now would be very far from the truth. In fact, the comparison is more like outstanding (then) vs. horrible (now). It's not like I'm just saying that it was better or something. I'm saying that it's like a whole different drug alltogether now. And with the evidence swybs has submitted from the DEA, it apparentely is!
I'm telling you rach, your very lucky that you do live in the Bronx, especially when it comes to cocaine quality. New York City and the surrounding areas are about the last true direct importation routes from South America into the U.S. The rest of us (or most of us anyway) get the quality stuff thats had the Mexican Speedy Gonzalez stomp dance done to it.
Keep in mind that I did get the "real deal" in Costa Rica late last year. I can also name the other 6 times that I've gotten it in the last 5 years or so. So it does still come around every once in awhile, but just not around here or most anywhere else I travel either.
On your next trip to Vegas for example, grab a bag from a taxi driver or whoever and get back with me as to the results. If your not feeling uncomfortable from the shit within an hour, I'll send you $100! And I'm a man of my word.
rachamim18 said:
Let me first start by saying that purity levels have absolutely nothing to do with the actual buzz if the cocaine has been adulterated with any active substances.
For example, a specimen of cocaine that is 51% pure and adulterated with just mannitol (most likely, a very good estimate of what I was doing in the 80's) would be the "real deal' as far as I'm concerned. I may have to do a little more to achieve the desired high, but it wouldn't be a negative experience.
Now on the other hand, if the specimen of cocaine was 83% pure while being adulterated with ephedrine, the desired high would and could never be achieved. In actuality, the more you did, the more negative the effects would be. So lets rule out purity levels. They mean nothing.
Secondly, when I described the cocaine of yesteryear being better, I should have probably given a more precise meaning of better.
Whereas you may think I'm just saying that it was outstanding then vs. good now would be very far from the truth. In fact, the comparison is more like outstanding (then) vs. horrible (now). It's not like I'm just saying that it was better or something. I'm saying that it's like a whole different drug alltogether now. And with the evidence swybs has submitted from the DEA, it apparentely is!
I'm telling you rach, your very lucky that you do live in the Bronx, especially when it comes to cocaine quality. New York City and the surrounding areas are about the last true direct importation routes from South America into the U.S. The rest of us (or most of us anyway) get the quality stuff thats had the Mexican Speedy Gonzalez stomp dance done to it.
Keep in mind that I did get the "real deal" in Costa Rica late last year. I can also name the other 6 times that I've gotten it in the last 5 years or so. So it does still come around every once in awhile, but just not around here or most anywhere else I travel either.
On your next trip to Vegas for example, grab a bag from a taxi driver or whoever and get back with me as to the results. If your not feeling uncomfortable from the shit within an hour, I'll send you $100! And I'm a man of my word.
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swybs said:
Actually, its a simple matter of spotting it on a TLC plate against standards of the suspected cuts, or testing by GC/MS. Maybe the average joe couild not do it, but after a few semesters of chemistry it should not be any big deal.
rachamim18
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A wager...
I will not be heading to Vegas in the near future [probably will never get out there] but I am going down to B. Aries for a wedding in April. As young Gezzer will tell you, it is plentiful and mighty cheap. I will, for arguments sake, cop a bit and do a Marquis. Do not worry about money, I want to do it for arguments sake. I will also start a local study [if you want to call it that] and see what I can find. I do not know that it will convince anyone [other than me and I'm already pretty sure] since there is no way to verify anything in cyberspace...I will let you know Junk.
I will not be heading to Vegas in the near future [probably will never get out there] but I am going down to B. Aries for a wedding in April. As young Gezzer will tell you, it is plentiful and mighty cheap. I will, for arguments sake, cop a bit and do a Marquis. Do not worry about money, I want to do it for arguments sake. I will also start a local study [if you want to call it that] and see what I can find. I do not know that it will convince anyone [other than me and I'm already pretty sure] since there is no way to verify anything in cyberspace...I will let you know Junk.
Le Junk
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Re: A wager...
rach,
The wager is good for the U.S. only! I'll even give you this, just anything south of Mexico is out. How about that? That is where I feel, or rather already know, is where the crap is being thrown in, is Mexico. That's what I've been arguing about all along is the quality of coke in the U.S., not anywhere else, especially South America for Gods sake.
I wouldn't expect anything less than the "real deal" in Buenos Aires. Look back over my threads and you'll see that I've done the real thing in Costa Rica, and that's only Central America. I've never had a doubt that it's nothing but the best in South America.
I think my very first thread on the subject read something like "anti-social cocaine is sweeping the country", or something like that. And what I meant by "the country" is this country.
So, whenever you decide to do any coke outside of the NYC area, the wager is on BIGTIME! I have absolutely no doubt that you will be very, very disappointed in what you'll find on U.S. soil outside of NYC.
Whenever you grab a bag in Houston, L.A., Vegas, Seattle, Atlanta, wherever, please give me some feedback. But be honest, please.
Let me know how it goes. But don't waste your time with any reagant testing in Buenos Aires. I already know how good it is down there. Instead, just enjoy your trip. But get back with me when it really counts, though.
Enjoy your trip.
rachamim18 said:
rach,
The wager is good for the U.S. only! I'll even give you this, just anything south of Mexico is out. How about that? That is where I feel, or rather already know, is where the crap is being thrown in, is Mexico. That's what I've been arguing about all along is the quality of coke in the U.S., not anywhere else, especially South America for Gods sake.
I wouldn't expect anything less than the "real deal" in Buenos Aires. Look back over my threads and you'll see that I've done the real thing in Costa Rica, and that's only Central America. I've never had a doubt that it's nothing but the best in South America.
I think my very first thread on the subject read something like "anti-social cocaine is sweeping the country", or something like that. And what I meant by "the country" is this country.
So, whenever you decide to do any coke outside of the NYC area, the wager is on BIGTIME! I have absolutely no doubt that you will be very, very disappointed in what you'll find on U.S. soil outside of NYC.
Whenever you grab a bag in Houston, L.A., Vegas, Seattle, Atlanta, wherever, please give me some feedback. But be honest, please.
Let me know how it goes. But don't waste your time with any reagant testing in Buenos Aires. I already know how good it is down there. Instead, just enjoy your trip. But get back with me when it really counts, though.
Enjoy your trip.
rachamim18
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Honesty...
You didn't know that it was my middle name? Rachamim "honesty" BenAmi... Kind of catchy. In any event, I will give it a whirl.
You didn't know that it was my middle name? Rachamim "honesty" BenAmi... Kind of catchy. In any event, I will give it a whirl.
Le Junk
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of course!
How foolish of me. I should have already known that!
Regardless, I would still like a full report as to the quality in Buenos Aires.
Say hello to young geezer for me, by the way.
rachamim18 said:
How foolish of me. I should have already known that!
Regardless, I would still like a full report as to the quality in Buenos Aires.
Say hello to young geezer for me, by the way.
fuck full reports in BA, Argentina....I think I am questing the holy grail and Le Junk and I may have a "trip report" based on quality NYC sniff. Fact is, it DOES still exist in NYC, but it becomes harder and harder to find as the price-risk ration raises and lowers, etc.
I suspect we may see a resurgence in NYC coke in the next year or 2...basically, rach, you live in prime drug county---as for your average upper middle class white folk who live or chill in NYC, the supply is static, albeit it mixes it up a bit, if you don't want to leave the borough. With that said, with the right connects, NYC has EVERYTHING...and, that, my friends, I mean. On the other hand, difficulty scoring quality can be high also.
Anyway, I ramble. Fact is, borough coke and -- def tristate area cocaine--has mainly been infected with active cuts...I live in the Bermuda Triangle of drugs in the USA right now...NJ has the bomb dope right now...I would wager to say we also have the largest pharm connects, streetwise that is, in the country. We tend to get some of the best weed, be if from N. cali, amsterdamn, or canada....shit, crack can;t be fucked up....anyway, I aint complaining, for sure..,..but sometimes I wish my connects were more varied....I guess, once you get in the dope game, all else seems like a novelty.
Anyway, I have a BA trip planned for this year; I guarantee I plan on scoring some good coke. On top of that, I plan on visiting cabos in mexico this year--my previous statement rings true. Now, do I know some slingers slang'n some beat coke right now, one phone call away--hell ya....is it shit....hell ya...
anyway, fuck it, I am rambling like a mofo. But, damn, I can already see the good coke in front of me...the good coke, old timers...the stuff that if you were holding an 8ball of primo shit, you would be--even in binge mode--sitting on three good nights of debauchery and talking, talking, talking.
whiteboys, please. I need to reup.
swybs
I suspect we may see a resurgence in NYC coke in the next year or 2...basically, rach, you live in prime drug county---as for your average upper middle class white folk who live or chill in NYC, the supply is static, albeit it mixes it up a bit, if you don't want to leave the borough. With that said, with the right connects, NYC has EVERYTHING...and, that, my friends, I mean. On the other hand, difficulty scoring quality can be high also.
Anyway, I ramble. Fact is, borough coke and -- def tristate area cocaine--has mainly been infected with active cuts...I live in the Bermuda Triangle of drugs in the USA right now...NJ has the bomb dope right now...I would wager to say we also have the largest pharm connects, streetwise that is, in the country. We tend to get some of the best weed, be if from N. cali, amsterdamn, or canada....shit, crack can;t be fucked up....anyway, I aint complaining, for sure..,..but sometimes I wish my connects were more varied....I guess, once you get in the dope game, all else seems like a novelty.
Anyway, I have a BA trip planned for this year; I guarantee I plan on scoring some good coke. On top of that, I plan on visiting cabos in mexico this year--my previous statement rings true. Now, do I know some slingers slang'n some beat coke right now, one phone call away--hell ya....is it shit....hell ya...
anyway, fuck it, I am rambling like a mofo. But, damn, I can already see the good coke in front of me...the good coke, old timers...the stuff that if you were holding an 8ball of primo shit, you would be--even in binge mode--sitting on three good nights of debauchery and talking, talking, talking.
whiteboys, please. I need to reup.
swybs
Le Junk
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Coolio said:
A perfect example of someone whos never, and I mean never, done the "real deal"! Amph/meth are top notch? What? Maybe in a trailor park, but if you've ever had the pleasure of visiting 1985, then you certainly wouldn't be throwing around comments like that, my friend!
Do you like MDMA? Well, the high off of "real" cociane is almost identical to the plateau period of an MDMA experience. The leveling off after he initial rush. Did you know that? If not, then you've never done any good cocaine, period.
You know, where you just feel so fucking great and everyone around you is your best friend. Talk, talk and more talk about shit that doesn't amount to crap, but is so fun to talk about anyway. No uncomfortableness at all. Sound familiar? Probably not.
Oh fuck it! I'm so tired of explaining what cociane is really supposed to feel like to people who have never felt like that off of whatever they're being served.
It used to be a drug that made you feel great. Only next to MDMA is anything even remotely comparable. But now it's mixed with crap that makes you feel like shit. O.K.
That's it.
swybs, lets leave these children behind and follow the holy grail to paradise. You know it's coming!
See ya' suckers!
Piper methysticum
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After reading and thinking about this quite a bit, I'll have to say, I'm quite interested in this thread.
First off, I have tried Cocaine of all types. I have had Cocaine that is extremely high in purity, as well as having a high quality manufacturing process.
With that said, I do not doubt that there are active "cuts" such as Amphetamines, Methamphetamine, and other stimulants in much of the Cocaine in the US. I have noticed quite a difference in effect from batch to batch, with effects ranging from feeling extremely "geeked", paranoid, edgy, and antisocial to feeling somewhat mellow, less stimulated, and having a somewhat "fuzzy" head feeling to Cocaine that feels extremely clean, is very socially (and sexually) stimulating, does not induce high amounts of anxiety and paranoia, and best of all, every nice line is almost as good as the first (meaning you can stay high on it for a long time, whereas with some Cocaine, I end up spaced out, staring at the wall until I fall asleep later).
However, to be completely honest, I enjoy Amphetamines alot more than I enjoy Cocaine, and I am very accustomed the the effects. If there are stimulant "cuts" in Cocaine, I am willing to bet some may be more along the lines of Ephedrine and like compounds. I could be very wrong, but I know what Amphetamines feel like, and I know what they feel like mixed with Cocaine, as I sometimes use Dexedrine along with Cocaine.
Amphetamines are long lasting stimulants that have very unique psychological effects. I have never had a strong "crash" on Amphetamines, though coming down from an Amphetamine high is long and drawn out. However, when Cocaine wears off (usually after about 20-30 minutes), I am instantly hit with excessive cravings, negative thoughts, and a grinding feeling in the stomach. However, I have had type of Cocaine that do not cause this, so I know there are differences in the quality of Cocaine.
As for Amphetamines, the stages of the high are much longer than that of Cocaine. First comes the initial rush of euphoria after about 20-30 minutes after an oral dose and about 3-5 minutes after an insufflated dose. The next stage is a mix between euphoria, extreme energy, a sense of clarity, and a deep sense of psychological thought. After that comes a period of strong stimulation, though by this point, most of the euphoria has worn off. This continues to mellow out into an "awake" phase, where you just feel very, well.. awake. All of these effects occur over a period of 6-8 or more hours. I really think, with my experience, that I could differentiate between a Cocaine high and an Amphetamine high, though I have had batches of Cocaine that I suspected were cut with Amphetamines. I did notice the effects of it, though it was somewhat subtle. Normally I can tell the difference by how easy it is for me to fall asleep.
However, arguing over the effects of "coming down" is ridiculous. Any stimulant, especially a short acting stimulant such as Cocaine, is able to cause extremely unpleasant after effects. Even more so when you aren't well hydrated and use the drug without eating or taking care of your body. Though, I can say I have had batches of Cocaine that really did not cause these effects. Why? I'm not quite sure if it had to do with the actual effects of the Cocaine or my body chemistry, what I had eaten, and the fact that I may have had a good amount of sleep during those periods of use. However, I believe it is probably a combination of all.
The reason I prefer Amphetamines is because I find no real use for Cocaine other than recreation. It is purely a social stimulant and euphoriant. It fills the mind with great thoughts and ideas that never get accomplished, whereas with Amphetamines, I study, I have motivation to work, I have extreme mental clarity, and on top of all of the productive qualities, I have a high that runs so much deeper and is more thoroughly enjoyable than a high that Cocaine could ever produce.
That is exactly the effect that irritates me about Cocaine..
As for MDMA, I see more similarities with Amphetamines. Hell, MDMA is an Amphetamine. However, I can see what you mean, as MDMA also has a feeling of euphoria that is more basic like the feeling of Cocaine, rather than the complex inner euphoria you get from Amphetamines, though I would never find the experience of Cocaine remotely close to what you experience with MDMA.
First off, I have tried Cocaine of all types. I have had Cocaine that is extremely high in purity, as well as having a high quality manufacturing process.
With that said, I do not doubt that there are active "cuts" such as Amphetamines, Methamphetamine, and other stimulants in much of the Cocaine in the US. I have noticed quite a difference in effect from batch to batch, with effects ranging from feeling extremely "geeked", paranoid, edgy, and antisocial to feeling somewhat mellow, less stimulated, and having a somewhat "fuzzy" head feeling to Cocaine that feels extremely clean, is very socially (and sexually) stimulating, does not induce high amounts of anxiety and paranoia, and best of all, every nice line is almost as good as the first (meaning you can stay high on it for a long time, whereas with some Cocaine, I end up spaced out, staring at the wall until I fall asleep later).
However, to be completely honest, I enjoy Amphetamines alot more than I enjoy Cocaine, and I am very accustomed the the effects. If there are stimulant "cuts" in Cocaine, I am willing to bet some may be more along the lines of Ephedrine and like compounds. I could be very wrong, but I know what Amphetamines feel like, and I know what they feel like mixed with Cocaine, as I sometimes use Dexedrine along with Cocaine.
Amphetamines are long lasting stimulants that have very unique psychological effects. I have never had a strong "crash" on Amphetamines, though coming down from an Amphetamine high is long and drawn out. However, when Cocaine wears off (usually after about 20-30 minutes), I am instantly hit with excessive cravings, negative thoughts, and a grinding feeling in the stomach. However, I have had type of Cocaine that do not cause this, so I know there are differences in the quality of Cocaine.
As for Amphetamines, the stages of the high are much longer than that of Cocaine. First comes the initial rush of euphoria after about 20-30 minutes after an oral dose and about 3-5 minutes after an insufflated dose. The next stage is a mix between euphoria, extreme energy, a sense of clarity, and a deep sense of psychological thought. After that comes a period of strong stimulation, though by this point, most of the euphoria has worn off. This continues to mellow out into an "awake" phase, where you just feel very, well.. awake. All of these effects occur over a period of 6-8 or more hours. I really think, with my experience, that I could differentiate between a Cocaine high and an Amphetamine high, though I have had batches of Cocaine that I suspected were cut with Amphetamines. I did notice the effects of it, though it was somewhat subtle. Normally I can tell the difference by how easy it is for me to fall asleep.
However, arguing over the effects of "coming down" is ridiculous. Any stimulant, especially a short acting stimulant such as Cocaine, is able to cause extremely unpleasant after effects. Even more so when you aren't well hydrated and use the drug without eating or taking care of your body. Though, I can say I have had batches of Cocaine that really did not cause these effects. Why? I'm not quite sure if it had to do with the actual effects of the Cocaine or my body chemistry, what I had eaten, and the fact that I may have had a good amount of sleep during those periods of use. However, I believe it is probably a combination of all.
The reason I prefer Amphetamines is because I find no real use for Cocaine other than recreation. It is purely a social stimulant and euphoriant. It fills the mind with great thoughts and ideas that never get accomplished, whereas with Amphetamines, I study, I have motivation to work, I have extreme mental clarity, and on top of all of the productive qualities, I have a high that runs so much deeper and is more thoroughly enjoyable than a high that Cocaine could ever produce.
That is exactly the effect that irritates me about Cocaine..
As for MDMA, I see more similarities with Amphetamines. Hell, MDMA is an Amphetamine. However, I can see what you mean, as MDMA also has a feeling of euphoria that is more basic like the feeling of Cocaine, rather than the complex inner euphoria you get from Amphetamines, though I would never find the experience of Cocaine remotely close to what you experience with MDMA.
rachamim18
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Well...
Come on over, it never went away [albeit less visible]. As for B.A., I will let you know. I am supposed to see Young G when I go down. He lives in my family's neighborhood [Palermo].
As far as Jersey, I agree. I was last in Irvington and Newark before New Years and the streets looked like the South Bronx during the mid 80s...glassines everywhere on the ground, pitchers doing the hand to hand in daylight...Giuliani did his job well [sadly]. As for up here, the shit kicks off at night. My paticular building happens to be the epicenter of the trade in one of the most infested projects in the city [Betances on Brook Ave]. During the day, it is there but much more low key. At night, even with the flood of cops and helicopters [starting to look like L.A.] it's run for your life.
Come on over, it never went away [albeit less visible]. As for B.A., I will let you know. I am supposed to see Young G when I go down. He lives in my family's neighborhood [Palermo].
As far as Jersey, I agree. I was last in Irvington and Newark before New Years and the streets looked like the South Bronx during the mid 80s...glassines everywhere on the ground, pitchers doing the hand to hand in daylight...Giuliani did his job well [sadly]. As for up here, the shit kicks off at night. My paticular building happens to be the epicenter of the trade in one of the most infested projects in the city [Betances on Brook Ave]. During the day, it is there but much more low key. At night, even with the flood of cops and helicopters [starting to look like L.A.] it's run for your life.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Not everyone would choose coke over amphetamines; I've had pharmaceutical coke, yet amphetamines are still the one I would choose any day of the week. I know I might be in a minority, but coke isn't everyone's cup of tea (most probably because I equate speed with being a teenager from a time when punk was still shocking the media up and down Britain!).
Le Junk
Bluelighter
Re: Well...
Have fun! And I'm glad your in contact with young geezer. He seems like a really good kid. Tell him Le Junk will be there soon..............
But do this for me if you would. Ask young geezer what he thinks of coke in the U.S. I think you might find his answer interesting............
rachamim18 said:
Have fun! And I'm glad your in contact with young geezer. He seems like a really good kid. Tell him Le Junk will be there soon..............
But do this for me if you would. Ask young geezer what he thinks of coke in the U.S. I think you might find his answer interesting............