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amphetamine for a tattoo session to replenish adrenaline?

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nikkinik

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i'm getting a quite big tattoo recently. 4~5hrs x 10 sessions.
i have done 4 of them so far.
few days after the first session, i got very intensely annoying itchiness from the tattoo healing that i could only sleep
few hours a day for almost a whole week.
so i took small dose(25mg) of diphenhydramine every night, to ease the itchy and also to fall asleep.
that worked quite well so i did not have to suffer anymore.

i took one dose of diphenhydramaine just before the starting of my second, third session because i was afraid of
the itchy coming back while im on the session. even though i didn't know if it was gonna comeback or not.
i was very calm, relaxed and the pain was really nothing for the first 4 hrs.
but i felt very restless and annoying (not painful at all) after that so i had to finish the sessions.

since sometime i stopped taking diphenhydramine because tattoo was not getting itchy nomore
so i did not take diphenhydramaine for the 4th session,
i wasn't in a very good mood that day i felt like i really don't wanna go to the session but i had to go cuz
i want it to be finished by the end of the year.
anyway so i went there reluctantly, i was very anxious when i was waiting for my tattoiest to get ready.
pain was alright for the first 3hrs but was very very bad after that. i almost cried
until this time, i never thought diphenhydramine was helping me handling pain better
because, i have always thought tattoo pain is not that bad as long as i'm doing only 4 hrs (i have many other decent sized tattoo)

i googled and found out
tattoo pain is not that bad for the first 4hrs because of adrenaline.
it gets very painful when adrenaline wears off.
(i did not know about this before)

so im wondering if i can take small dose of amphetamine
to replenish adrenaline before a session or maybe in 3~4hrs during the session
to make the session longer?

or alternatively using 1 dose of wellbutrin instead of amphetamine?
have anyone have any idea about this?
cheers.
 
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I've been friends with a tattooist (in fact must remember to pop in and see him as I haven't caught up in a while).

I was talking to him about whether using drugs of some sort (he's used allsorts in his life) before what I knew was going to be a particularly painful (inside of arm) tattoo. He was dead set against trying to use any drugs to deal with the pain at all and not because its macho or any shit like that just that its likely to leave you less able to mentally deal with it.

Amphet just going to make you jumpy and likely anxious, I'm sure you already do so but I would recommend working on some meditation excercises....leave you body behind ;)

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I only have a small tat, and I got it on amphetamine... not on purpose, just cause I happened to be high. I did not find the pain to be even noticeable.

In general, speaking of both medical procedures and random injuries and stuff... I find amphetamine really reduces my cognition of pain. In a weird way. I feel the pain clearly, but it doesn't bother me... I just stop caring about the pain. It might make you anxious or impatient though.

Amphetamine is a strong vaso-constrictor, so it would probably reduce your bleeding. If your not prone to anxiety from amphetamine, I don't see how a small does would be a bad thing, but it may not reduce pain depending on your response to amphetamine and your manner of pain perception...?
 
My tattoos were done entirely sober and pain wasn't even slightly an issue.. I'd be worried amphetamine would make me jumpy I have to say, and I really wouldn't fancy anyone coming near me with a needle!

If your tattooist is good, they will stop if you have had enough and split it into more sessions. I really wouldn't advise taking drugs to get through it. Amphetamine might make you sweat more too, which could smudge the transfer and fuck up the tattoo process.. and could make you a hell of a lot more anxious. It could work, but the potential problems far outweigh the benefits in my eyes!
 
You do know if they tattoo on somewhere with a bone under it (ribs; shouldere; etc.) it will hurt more

Why not to use amphetamine: It probably won't work for tattoo pain, and you have to sit still... You think sitting still and amphetamine stimulants go together? You'll be trying to have conversations with the tattoo artist (unless you have legit ADHD)

Note: I list the opotions from healthiest, to worst

Option 1: For harm reduction's sake the best choice would be to use nothing

Option 2: Up to 100mg Diphenhydramine (sedating effect)

Option 3: The next healthiest choice, if you REALLY think epinephrine (adrenaline) is the reason you don't feel it as much, load up on 200mg-300mg caffeine if you have no tolerance.... Up to 600mg if you have caffeine tolerance
NOTES:
Caffeine is an Epinephrine (adrenaline) agonist
Caffeine can make you jittery, not good for getting a tattoo
Caffeine can give you anxiety or make you paranoid, tricking you into making it hurt more

Option 4: 350-1400mg Carisoprodol (Soma)
Carisoprodol is a muscle relaxant, analgesic (for certain tyypes of pain), and has anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) properties
NOTES:
Carisoprodol is addictive
If you are sensitive to carisoprodol, you may lose your "Give a fuck" sense and become reckless

Option 5: Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lortab) 5-15mg + Diphenhydramine 25-50mg (Benadryl)
NOTES:
Do not exceed 1,000mg APAP (APAP = Tylenol, Paracetamol, or Acetaminophen)
Do not exceed 15mg Hydrocodone
The Bigger number on a Vicodin or Lortab bottle is the APAP content

Option 6: 5-15mg Morphine (or 30mg MS Contin) + Diphenhydramine 25-50m
NOTES:
If it is an instant release formulation, do not exceed 15mg Morphine orally
If you don't know if it is instant release or extended release, just see it as instant release
Morphine is addictive
The Diphenhydramine is so you won't itch during the tattoo, but it will make you evn more sedated

Option 7: Hydrocodone (Vicodin; Lortab) 5-15mg and Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) 25-50mg
NOTES:
Do not exceed 15mg Hydrocodone
Do not exceed 1,000mg APAP (APAP = Acetaminophen = Paracetamol = Tylenol)
Hydrocodone is addictive
The big number on a Vicodin, Lortab, or generic bottle is the APAP content per pill
The small number on a Vicodin, Lortab, or generic bottle is the Hydrocodone content per pill

Option 8: Oxycodone 5-15mg (Percocet, Roxicodone, Oxycontin) and Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) 25-50mg
Do not exceed 5-15mg of an instant release oxycodone formulation
If you aren't sure if it is instant release, just assume it is
Do not exceed 30mg of Oxycontin, if it is Oxycontin (Oxycontin is an extended release formulation)
Do not exceed 1,000mg APAP
Oxycodone is addictive
The bigger number on a percocet or generic bottle is the APAP content
The smaller number on a percocet or generic bottle is the Oxycodone content
 
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^ I would stay away from caffeine in this situation, especially since you will likely crash and be jittery due to the duration of the tattoo. The histamine release from morphine is one of the worst, so I would stay away from that as well. Even with an antihistamine you will likely still be itchy. Also, not everyone gets their drugs in prescription bottles so can't look to see the apap content.
 
You seem to be thinking too hard about this. If you have pain from it, just get a numbing spray. Lidocaine, benzocaine etc. sprays are available from most pharmacists, and your tattooist might even have some.
 
^^^

Above sounds like a good idea and I know some people tattooists might even have some but it won't last 4-5 hours, thats a pretty hardcore session IMO.

Applying more cream midway through and getting it into and open wound of the half finished tattoo isn't going to be great.

I have to admit to quite liking the tattooing sensation and got quite into the whole thing but I've never had a session that lasted for more than 2 hours.
 
I've got 2 tattoos, I took a 30mg roxicodone the first one, its my initials on my arm. It wasnt painful at all so I think the oxycodone wasnt needed.
The second one was a huge one on my back and i was loaded that day, i think i took 2 30mg roxicodones, 2 10mg valium, and 1 350mg soma. I do have a tolerance to all mentioned.

I would either take nothing or a small dose of opiates to help with the pain.

Addyman has a list that i totally agree with so I would take his advice and go from there. good luck!
 
from experience using amphetamines before you get a tatoo is not the greatest idea...when i went and got the work on my neck done i was on one but it made it very hard to sit still for long periods of time and i was very annoyed with the sound that close to my ear but i think the amph. also played a role in that...the whole point is too stay calm and relaxed and those do the complete oppisite to you, do what you will but id go with some sort of opiate or benzo
 
atm23 said:
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Above sounds like a good idea and I know some people tattooists might even have some but it won't last 4-5 hours, thats a pretty hardcore session IMO.

Applying more cream midway through and getting it into and open wound of the half finished tattoo isn't going to be great.

I have to admit to quite liking the tattooing sensation and got quite into the whole thing but I've never had a session that lasted for more than 2 hours.
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Haha I kinda liked it too, but again my session wasn't that long. A good tattooist will stop when it is too much for sure.
 
I guess some people enjoy the pain..

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Haha. Okay this is going off track. I think we've run through all the options. I'm going to close it, but nikkinik, if you would like it re-opening and more advice, feel free to shoot me a pm :)
 
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