Amphetamine (45mg insufflated, somewhat experienced) + Cannabis (~1.5g "dank", exp.)

[It's a baby!]

Amphetamine (45mg) + Cannabis - Somewhat experienced - Fire and Water

So I went over to my best friend's house today as he said he had a surprise; sure enough, a fat sack of weed, 16 15mg adderall pills, and 4 oxycontins sitting on his table I love going over to someone's house to find that they have a lot of drugs, always a good feeling.

Anyway he immediately began grinding up a pill. I'd never tried insufflating speed before, so I wanted to find out what that was like. It's hard to remember the exact time frames for everything but we were basically smoking weed, and after every bowl we'd snort some, and total I had about 45mg over the course of about 3 hours. I'm not sure the exact type, they were the little 15mg pink/orange pills and not the XR; they didn't burn whatsoever and had a sweet-tasting drip which I didn't mind in the slightest but my friend found revolting.

After my first 20mg or so we smoked a fat bowl, and the speed 'n' weed kicked in at about the same time. It was kind of "meh" for me though, I think I would've preferred the speed on its own. It didn't give me a bad weed panic-attack or anything like it "should have", I just felt like the two drugs were sort of incompatible and doing very different things to my brain. Basically I had "stoner vision", but all of the mental effects of the pot were completely replaced with adderall. It was more than just a clear-headed pot high; my head was a little *too* clear to be described as that if you know what I'm saying. There was no lethargy, just speedy tweaky-type fun, not the goofy-confusing fun of weed. I was staring into space like weed always has me doing, but really focused on what I was staring at at the same time.

My other friend was there too but he was just smoking weed, and the difference in behavior between us two speedy bastards and his mellow ass was astonishing. We'd be tapping our fingers, bobbing our legs, darting our eyes everywhere and talking very fast, while he was just laying back spacing out and giggling when the never-ending conversation turned humorous.

I do think I actually preferred it to weed on its own. It's totally cliche, but I'm getting bored with weed. I still smoke it like a fiend, it's just not super-fun for me anymore, and I don't like how it makes conversation so difficult ("oh *that's* what you were saying the whole time?" is a phrase that comes up a lot). This way the speed kept my head on my shoulders. I also felt the speed a lot better once the weed had completely worn off.

I snorted the last 15mg at about 7:00 and I just came down at about 12:20. The peak lasted for an hour, then I had a plateau, then just mild stimulation, and then all of a sudden I felt sleepy and that's how I knew it'd completely worn off. I didn't get any crash though, which was great since the last time I did it I got an unpleasant comedown.

I very much enjoyed the rush, but I didn't find it to be much more effective than just taking it orally. I also liked how there was no crash, but I don't know if this was just coincidental or if snorting it actually helped with that somehow. I think it might've had more to do with the fact that I made sure to force some carbohydrates down and kept hydrated than that I snorted the stuff.

Also, does anyone know how good it is to snort these? I did a search and got mixed responses, plus in a lot of cases it's hard to tell if the posts are referring to XR or IR. I know snorting pills is very bad for the nose, but I'm not gonna be doing this anywhere near every day so that's not a huge issue. I'm mostly wondering if it's actually more effective, or just a waste of time. The orange boogers were kinda funky too

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[Xorkoth]

I'm never sure about snorting amphetamine... on one hand, it kicks in faster so it might reach higher peak plasma levels, creating a stronger effect. On the other hand, eating it works very well and lasts longer and is more steady, and I've heard that it's at least as effective anyway.

 

[theWorldWithin]

Oral is better by far, and although the onset is delay, once it hits you rush much harder than if you had snorted it. The best advice is to dose orally in a boring environment, then after say 45 mins, crank up some pumping music and you will start rushing.

 

[It's a baby!]

Yeah I've decided to quit doing the stuff very often at all, like I probably won't do it again for 2 months or so. Why? Sleep problems! Even though I know the speed was totally worn off by the time I went to bed, as it'd been like 9 hours since I took it, I ended up tossing and turning all night until 6am. The same thing happened the last time I took amphetamine in the afternoon, and it's totally fucked up my sleep-schedule.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Unless you raise the pH of your stomach, you lose tons of amphetamine orally. the oral is bioavailability is ~50% IIRC, and insufflated it's ~70% IIRC. And if you do raise the pH, the amps will last a lot longer than normal oral use or insufflated.

 

[theWorldWithin]

Oral is the best MOA since a multitude of binders severely decrease the bioavailability of nasal admin. Also I would argue that it is a qualitatively better expereience.