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Amber shards? Why so much better IVed?

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RecoverySUCKSass

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Ok I've been doing shards for about 2 years and have been injecting for about one year. Here in Atl we get fake drug dealer slang names for shards. There are basicly to different grades of shards here. Clear crystal is called "Tina" and the other is called "Amber". I'm sure this nothing new to yall but here is my question. When in inject the clearer stuff.. I get a nice good rush (1/4 gram)but the the direct high only last maybe 1 to 2 hours for me and seems to fluxuate depending on potency.I will still speed for hours but in a clean background kinda geek. Now when I inject the amber shards The direct high last for 3 to 4 hours and is mindbogling. The rush is always the shit and cant be touched by the clearer stuff for some reason. The amber stuf is not crank. It is still clear but has a hue of amber to it. if you have seen it you know what i mean. the amber is shitty snorted, smoked, or whatever. But its the shit shot. Does anyone here know why. Not askin for a amber recipe or nothing but maybe a simple explanation on why its so damn good shot but not other ways? thanks for your replies
 
I know exactly what you're talking about.. the amber crystals are still clear, but have that brownish/amber tint.
It's probably just a recipe or something, because I have had batches of that which were *slightly* better than other uncut shards that were entirely clear. I didn't notice that big of a difference in potency, though. Then again, I never injected the stuff either.
 
Hmm...well alot of the pics on 4-methylaminorex on erowid have that slight brownish hue. Then again so do some of the methamphtamine crystals.
Then again other people seem to think ice has a shitty rush so this doesn't make sense. I presume you are taking the same dose of both. It does seem the published synths of ice involve bromine so this could explain the brownish hue.
Have you ever checked your heart rate on both of them? The only other thing I can think of is that one is pure d while the other is racemeric. Are your shards waxy or oily?
Also you would probably get better responses asking on another board.
 
Any blueish hue on Erowid reguarding the pictures of ice aka 4-methylaminorex are just due to the monitor or scanner. The stuff I had looked EXACTLY like that and it did not have any blueish hue at all in real life. It was a semi-bright translucent white.
The amber shards were methamphetamine and the crystals looked entirely different from 4-methylaminorex. They were transparent. Some batches appeared to be *slightly* bubbly when you looked through the crystals in the light. Also, I had a friend drop a batch of meth matching this description on his khaki pants one time and they burned a tiny hole through them. That was the last time I ever smoked meth.
 
Well the amber shards i usualy get are not waxy... maybe a tad bit oily. usually small rock candy but NOT fluffy. I usually pick the amber up from a local lab. I would ask them, but I'd prefer not askin questions about ingredients. No one ever actually says words like lab and such while there or around the owners. most of the clear stuff here come from mexicans and trickles down. I'll do some more research. Anyone know of a board that would be more specific for the kinda question im asking?
 
It seems to me that the route of synthesis being used for the amber shards is different from the route used to produce the clear shards. Possibly the amber shards are being produced via the I/RP route and the amber colour is due to traces of RP (red phosphorous) left in the product. The clear shards are probably produced using a different, less effective route...and so they probably contain (despite being clear) a significant amount of leftover starting material (probably either pseudoephedrine or ephedrine), which substantially weakens the product.
So, the amber shards, despite having trace amounts of impurities, are more potent and contain a higher percentage of meth. The clear shards on the other hand, though they may seem cleaner, actually contain less meth.
As for why the amber shards result in weak effects unless IVed, I'm guessing that that is probably placebo effect...i.e. you have conditioned yourself to believe it's only good when IVed. Do you usually IV the amber shards? If so, the few occasions upon which you do the amber shards other ways may make it seem weak in comparison to when you shoot it.
 
Well i thought that too.... i figured it was RP based and the clear stuff was ammonia based.... i thought maybe a i just had an obbsession with shootin amber... i have asked around and people who only smoke or snort hate amber and the few people i know who shoot cant get enough of it... who knows... a lot of the people are stupid and think if it aint clear it aint shit.. and ill tell ya ive had some clear stuff not do shit when shot or leave hella black all of the inside of a chalet.. thanks for your thought fairy
 
The reason I ask about waxy/oiliness is that this is a common effect of leaving meth-HI in the final product (you can test this by seeing how much dissolves in acetone). I asked because it seemed to me that the amberish color might be caused by iodine type impurities...just a guess though.
The thought being that the only thing which can explain the differnt effects oral/shooting is either a differnt chemical or possibly a differnt salt. It seems clear at this point the active ingredients in them both are meth and the nasty parts (l-meth, ephidrine, psuedo eph) are going to come along shot or not. The only further explanation I can think of is that somehow a significant amount of your shot stuff is in some salt which isn't absorbed well orally/insulflated. I was hazarding a guess that the HI salt of meth might be such a thing. Thus the amber shards are better as they are pure d-meth but not being the HCl salt aren't being absorbed well via the other methods.
BTW soviet I said brownish not blueish.
Damn girl chill about the name. You picked a name that is damn close to an easily memorable combination of english words. You should just be glad ppl don't call you fairy just to piss you off :-).
[ 08 July 2002: Message edited by: quale ]
 
Well i'll get to the bottom of this soon enough. The guy who owns the lab ( the wizard of oz "man behind the curtain" as we call him ) gave me the amber the first time and told me it is esp for IV users. He knew i was starting to IV the stuff on a regular basis. at the time i was shootin 1/8 a gram... now i shoot 1/4 a gram usually
 
If the product is "shards", its been recrystalized and far removed from any possibility of having trace amounts of RP in it.
 
like i said.... the amber shards i get for the most i get from a lab. cut one time by the pound 7 parts pure 1 part createne mixed when wet. then dried. when done by the oz. 4 parts pure to 1 part createne. Sometime SMS is used to cut.... so i doubt it has been recrystalized. I'v wathed it be "crsytalized" or be introduced to a hydrochloridic recation with muratic acid and tin foil usually
 
I'm actually in agreement with quale here. If your name was FairNymph or even fairNymph, nobody would mispell it.
As is, its like, "My name is YYYYYYYYwhYdoispellmYnamethiswaY, it has 11 Y's in it, do you see 12? I don't think so, so get it right damnit!" Maybe that's a little over the top.
 
Recovery, do you notice other people on this board don't get too technical about the high ups?
There is a reason for that. Quit it. If you can provide information about what process is what, fine.. but nobody wants to know about your high ups or that you even know high ups.
 
I have never done this but it seems to me that most drugs are more intense & seem better when they are shoot. I personally don't fuck with the needle but people tell me it's an amazing experience when you shoot high quality pure meth as opposed to when you smoke it or snort it...
 
can you say 'it was all in my mind'???
reality will strike when you get to the borderline aka cheep mef thats like 150 a ball standard retail...
 
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