Hey guys. I got my AM-2201 in the mail today! All 500mg of it! Yay!! Anyway after my classes I decided to partake in some smoking of the chem. I took about 3 specs of the yellow powder and put it in my bowl and fired her up. Well, it hit me within a few seconds and was quite enjoyable. I did redose once throughout the rest of the night, but that was it. I have no idea the dose I used, 5 specs of AM dust. I do have a very good scale for small quantities, but what would the oral dose be? Would it be the same as the smoked dose?
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AM-2201 Oral vs. Smoked Dose
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Please read the older big&dandy threads for JWH-018 and related cannabinoids.
I have no experience with AM-2201 directly, but it should be similar to JWH-018 which I have baked into oral treats.
Much like natural THC, synthetic cannabinoids are hydrophobic (don't dissolve in water) and thus are prone to wild idiosyncrasies in oral dosing. I would say a properly prepared oral dose should be comparable in potency to the same weight of smoked dose.
1. Get a box of brownie mix, or use your grandmother's recipe.
2. Using the amount of oil or butter that the recipe calls for, heat the oil or butter in a small pan over medium-low heat and stir in the appropriate amount of your cannabinoid. Here appropriate amount is usually 12 times your standard smoked dose, with the idea that you will cut the pan into 12 identical pieces for easy dosing. NOTE: once this step has been performed, you should treat the recipe as a biohazard--- do NOT lick your fingers, do NOT lick the bowl, and dear GOD make sure to keep out of reach of children or animals.
3. The cannabinoid should dissolve easily into the oil or butter. Remove from heat and cool to room temperature.
4. Bake as prescribed. Individually wrap each piece and label appropriately to avoid any overdose situations.
Done properly, an oral dose of 10mg JWH-018 in this manner begins showing effects 15 minutes after ingestion, regardless of previous stomach contents. Peak effect at about T+1, with gradual dropoff of the next few hours. AM-2201 probably has a similar profile. Be aware that 10mg of JWH-018 here was a FULL ON dose, with overdose/vomiting achieved at 20mg. I strongly suggest that you start with HALF a brownie (ie, half your normal smoked dose) when you first sample the batch, and DO NOT smoke during that day so you can accurately gauge the effects for future reference. Note-taking is KEY when dosing foods!
EDIT: AM-2201 may be approximately 4-5x the potency of JWH-018 (depending on the purity i guess) so I would strongly caution that you put NO MORE than 48mg in your first batch of brownies, so that each piece will have 4mg (and you can still eat just half on the first try)
I have no experience with AM-2201 directly, but it should be similar to JWH-018 which I have baked into oral treats.
Much like natural THC, synthetic cannabinoids are hydrophobic (don't dissolve in water) and thus are prone to wild idiosyncrasies in oral dosing. I would say a properly prepared oral dose should be comparable in potency to the same weight of smoked dose.
1. Get a box of brownie mix, or use your grandmother's recipe.
2. Using the amount of oil or butter that the recipe calls for, heat the oil or butter in a small pan over medium-low heat and stir in the appropriate amount of your cannabinoid. Here appropriate amount is usually 12 times your standard smoked dose, with the idea that you will cut the pan into 12 identical pieces for easy dosing. NOTE: once this step has been performed, you should treat the recipe as a biohazard--- do NOT lick your fingers, do NOT lick the bowl, and dear GOD make sure to keep out of reach of children or animals.
3. The cannabinoid should dissolve easily into the oil or butter. Remove from heat and cool to room temperature.
4. Bake as prescribed. Individually wrap each piece and label appropriately to avoid any overdose situations.
Done properly, an oral dose of 10mg JWH-018 in this manner begins showing effects 15 minutes after ingestion, regardless of previous stomach contents. Peak effect at about T+1, with gradual dropoff of the next few hours. AM-2201 probably has a similar profile. Be aware that 10mg of JWH-018 here was a FULL ON dose, with overdose/vomiting achieved at 20mg. I strongly suggest that you start with HALF a brownie (ie, half your normal smoked dose) when you first sample the batch, and DO NOT smoke during that day so you can accurately gauge the effects for future reference. Note-taking is KEY when dosing foods!
EDIT: AM-2201 may be approximately 4-5x the potency of JWH-018 (depending on the purity i guess) so I would strongly caution that you put NO MORE than 48mg in your first batch of brownies, so that each piece will have 4mg (and you can still eat just half on the first try)
Another easy way to dose orally is to dissolve a known quantity in 190 proof everclear. I like to use 100 mg in a 50 mL bottle for a concentration of 2 mg/mL. Measure your dose (2 mg is very strong for me) with a medicine dropper, add to a cup of juice or water, and drink. It lasts much longer this way for me. The effects wear off 30 or 45 minutes after smoking, but taken orally the effects last 6 hours or more.
You probably want to start smaller than 2 mg, by the way. I can feel the effects from 500 mcg. 1 mg feels like a moderate high, and 2 mg feels very strong with visuals and time dilation. I'm 240 pounds and a daily cannabis user, so I imagine 2 mg would be an unpleasant "overdose" for a lot of people.
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im a daily toker too, i go through about an ounce a month.
i recently came across AM2201 and got 2g of it. this shit gets me high on less than 1mg, that is INSANE.
3mg has me blazed as a motherfucker. start small and work your way up, and i cannot stress enough- USE MILLIGRAM SCALES TO MEASURE YOUR DOSES!!!
do NOT rely on your guesswork when you eyeball a dose. i did this and had a fucking seizure for about an hour. first thing i did the next day was buy mg scales.
this is an insanely potent chemical and should be used with caution, many many people underestimate or do not expect its sheer power.
be safe and have fun.
i recently came across AM2201 and got 2g of it. this shit gets me high on less than 1mg, that is INSANE.
3mg has me blazed as a motherfucker. start small and work your way up, and i cannot stress enough- USE MILLIGRAM SCALES TO MEASURE YOUR DOSES!!!
do NOT rely on your guesswork when you eyeball a dose. i did this and had a fucking seizure for about an hour. first thing i did the next day was buy mg scales.
this is an insanely potent chemical and should be used with caution, many many people underestimate or do not expect its sheer power.
be safe and have fun.
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I agree with the above, 2mg may indeed be quite a hit for the intolerant! I divided 10mg into 40 doses, miniscule they were, 250mcg each (give or take). I smoked these doses on top of herb in a bong. I felt the smaller hits but didn't enjoy it much. Upped the dose to 1mg smoked & I really did not enjoy it, felt uncomfortable, a bit tripped out, kinda tryptamine-ish feeling without the tripping. I put it away after that & havent tried it since.
Go easy at first friends, this stuff is powerful shit!
Go easy at first friends, this stuff is powerful shit!