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Alternative ways of doing DMT instead of smoking?

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About 2 years ago my friend aquired a gram of DMT crystals and we each smoked a dose. It was a really weird experience that could have been alot better had it not been for the immense pain I felt in my lungs/throat after smoking it. I also recognized I had a blister on my tongue after I returned from the trip.

Well, at new years eve we talked about doing it again sometime, but we both remember how awful it tasted and how harsh the smoke was so neither of us would be particularly fond of using this method to get the drug in our systems again. So how do we proceed if we do not want to smoke it? My friend does not use needles. I do but I am not completely comfortable with using DMT IV and I will not IM something that isn't sterile. Any ideas?
 
If you really want to there are ways to sterilize and finish off with a micron filter. If I am not mistaken that would work for products that may be contaminated with non-germinated bacteria or spores, but I wouldn't use it for anything that has germinated (and subsequently spoiled).

Snorting is more painful than vaporizing.

Pharmahuasca is indeed a very good idea!

But vaporizing shouldn't be that harsh, it is an indication of bad smoking technique. Make sure there is no pyrolysis and if necessary upgrade to another smoking device that allows for better heat distribution giving you a better tolerance to bad handling of the lighter. Most of those smoking devices employ some kind of steel mesh, the device called 'the machine' is the epitome of that, you can check the OP of the Big & Dandy DMT thread, there is a subthread on 'the device'.

A blistered tongue is a sign of too much heated gas or even boiling aerolized liquid DMT. Did you use a simple crack pipe that feeds the drug directly? If so I am not surprised. Use a bong with mesh or construct 'the machine' and you will be breaking through without respiratory damage in no time. The tingling sensation doesn't seem to go away though but that is on a whole other level.
 
I don't get any kind of uncomfortable feeling with the machine. That thing is amazing. I can take in 80-100mg with ONE HIT. A friend of mine however gets swelling and pain in his throat and lungs immediately no matter how it's smoked. Even a tiny bit seems to cause an adverse reaction. You seem to be experiencing something similar.

By the way, pharmahuasca can't be compared to smoking DMT. It's entirely different. More gentle and mellow.
 
Yeah, don't snort freebase DMT, it will burn your nasal passages. And you REALLY don't want to plug it. (I'm still wincing at the memory, seven years later...)

If you salt the freebase and snort that, it will be kind of numbing and uncomfortable, but at least it won't leave you with chemical burns. It will come on quicker than pharmahuasca but slower than smoking it.
 
You can use DMT in any of the typical ROAs.

If you don't want to vaporize it, you can take it orally (ayahuasca/pharmahuasca).
You can also convert the freebase to a salt, which you can then snort, inject, or plug.

The vapor is quite harsh as far as typically inhaled drugs go, but it still isn't that bad in my opinion, and most people I have seen have been perfectly happy with smoking it (or have failed to inhale enough - regardless, complaints haven't been about the harshness of the smoking). Maybe you're actually burning/smoking it, as opposed to vaporizing? As soon as it combusts, DMT does get very harsh indeed.
The Machine, as mentioned above, is a very good contraption.
 
cuntball said:
By the way, pharmahuasca can't be compared to smoking DMT. It's entirely different. More gentle and mellow.
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Pharmahuasca and Ayahuasca can be actually be much rougher than smoked DMT. Smoked DMT hits you very fast and goes away very fast as well, and you know it passes very fast. While on a strong huasca (>60 mg DMT with full MAOI and after a strict fasting) "hell" apparently never ends. It's every bit as powerful as smoked DMT but with a much longer time frame. Particularly strong are redoses of huasca, taken about 2 hours after first intake. It totally floors you.
 
Solipsis said:
If you really want to there are ways to sterilize and finish off with a micron filter. If I am not mistaken that would work for products that may be contaminated with non-germinated bacteria or spores, but I wouldn't use it for anything that has germinated (and subsequently spoiled).

Snorting is more painful than vaporizing.

Pharmahuasca is indeed a very good idea!

But vaporizing shouldn't be that harsh, it is an indication of bad smoking technique. Make sure there is no pyrolysis and if necessary upgrade to another smoking device that allows for better heat distribution giving you a better tolerance to bad handling of the lighter. Most of those smoking devices employ some kind of steel mesh, the device called 'the machine' is the epitome of that, you can check the OP of the Big & Dandy DMT thread, there is a subthread on 'the device'.

A blistered tongue is a sign of too much heated gas or even boiling aerolized liquid DMT. Did you use a simple crack pipe that feeds the drug directly? If so I am not surprised. Use a bong with mesh or construct 'the machine' and you will be breaking through without respiratory damage in no time. The tingling sensation doesn't seem to go away though but that is on a whole other level.
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Thanks for the informative post, I will check out the thread on "the device". I smoked the DMT like I used to smoke heroin several years ago (chasing it on foil). I've never hurt myself smoking heroin or synthetic cannabinoids this way, so I find it weird that I would do so while smoking DMT but appearently it happened somehow.

How long would the effects of pharmahuasca last compared to smoking?

Captain.Heroin said:
I recently IV'd DMT, and this is the way I would do it in the future more often than not.
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How was it compared to smoking? Was it alot more intense? Also what dosage did you use and how long did the experience last?
 
first time i had dmt it was white crystalline substance combined with dry brown hi% harmaline plant extract. used it orally, harmaline half an hour earlier, like 130mg dmt if i remember correctly. it was many years back but i remember it was absolutely beautiful. it actually provides a slightly different experience than smoking due to the slower onset, which was still very fast once threshold effects were felt. iv'ing doesnt sound like itd be worth it, unless youre having a hard time with lingering irritation/taste of the smoke. higher risks associated to iv use + onset wont be much faster than it already is. on the other hand, i guess hooking yourself up to a dmt drip for a day or so could be worth it... :D
 
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