Im lookin for [the best would be herbal] alternative to coffee/tea. I hope to find something that will enhance your mood[or perhaps make you more relaxed but still stimulated?] a little bit better than simple coffee but still will be good for daily use.
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Misc Alternative to coffee.
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Seattle_Stranger
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Depends on if you're trying to escape caffeine or not. There are tons of alternate caffeine sources that come with different make ups of xanthine alkaloids that give slightly alternate effects. Caffeine is the strongest though, and is subtle on it's own, so the alternate xanthine effects are quite subjective.
Then there's kratom. It's directly related to the coffee plant and the effects are that of several cups of coffee, with a side helping of almost opiate-like anxiety relief, all without the jitteryness (unless you dose too high). Stay away from extracts, just get the regular commercial powdered stuff. If it sounds too good to be true, it is, because it's addicting, so watch out for that. Luckily I haven't found the withdrawals to be really warranted to even be called withdrawals, more like an "anxious longing for a dose", maybe some insomnia. Over it in a day or two.
Kanna can have some of the effects you're looking for as well. Good on it's own, even better coupled with kratom. I'm weird and find cannabis to be stimulating in the right amounts, so depending on your chemical makeup, perhaps you could get some stimulation, focus and relaxation from a cannabis edible in the morning like I do. Kratom, kanna and cannabis in the morning for me is enough to make me forget coffee exists. Not to say I don't still drink coffee with it
Depends on if you're trying to escape caffeine or not. There are tons of alternate caffeine sources that come with different make ups of xanthine alkaloids that give slightly alternate effects. Caffeine is the strongest though, and is subtle on it's own, so the alternate xanthine effects are quite subjective.
Then there's kratom. It's directly related to the coffee plant and the effects are that of several cups of coffee, with a side helping of almost opiate-like anxiety relief, all without the jitteryness (unless you dose too high). Stay away from extracts, just get the regular commercial powdered stuff. If it sounds too good to be true, it is, because it's addicting, so watch out for that. Luckily I haven't found the withdrawals to be really warranted to even be called withdrawals, more like an "anxious longing for a dose", maybe some insomnia. Over it in a day or two.
Kanna can have some of the effects you're looking for as well. Good on it's own, even better coupled with kratom. I'm weird and find cannabis to be stimulating in the right amounts, so depending on your chemical makeup, perhaps you could get some stimulation, focus and relaxation from a cannabis edible in the morning like I do. Kratom, kanna and cannabis in the morning for me is enough to make me forget coffee exists. Not to say I don't still drink coffee with it
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Kratom - preferably a white strain that will get you 'up' without the jitters, but keep you in balance. It's the perfect mix of calm focus with heavy motivation. Unlike amps that will make you get up and go but end up focusing on everything except what you need to be doing. Kratom is like natures speedball.
HCL
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It even comes with its own opioid withdrawals!
abracadabra girl
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i need to try that shit. caffeine isn't cutting it anymore.
infectedmushroom
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Yerba Mate...all though I think it might actually contain caffeine. Kinda useless suggestion if it does.
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Kratom can make you vomit too, unlike coffee. I remember having to buy Dramamine, and I don't think it helped. It was almost as bad as when I took my junky friend's dose of poppy tea.
I used kratom only once over the course of two weeks to a month. I probably dosed too high.
But it would probably be great in moderate, and not daily, use.
I used kratom only once over the course of two weeks to a month. I probably dosed too high.
But it would probably be great in moderate, and not daily, use.
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Khat leaves or betel nut.
emkee_reinvented
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Betel nut, at least the chew I tried, has more resemblence to nicotin imo. But it is mildly stimulating and certainly worth having a look at.
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A lot actually has tobacco in it, which causes all of the health side effects. The pure shit should be good though.
Rio Fantastic
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Piracetam I think fits the bil lhere. Makes you feel focused, productive and generally "on the ball", and for me there is a definite mood lifting effect. It's not stimulating like coffee though, it won't significantly wake you up, for me its more just like it's turned my brain up a notch. Another one that would fit is a small dose of methamphetamine - it's a tad stronger than caffiene, and if caffiene isn't giving you the effects you want anymore, methamphetamine is guaranteed to do so. There is a DEFINITE mood lift, along with a huge increase in focus and productivity, and it wakes me up better than any other substance I've ever tried, so you might want to give it a shot. However, I'd try piracetam first, as methamphetamine is relatively pricy and may have some side effects.