i'm moving to a place with lots of parties and lots of E going around. i want to go the the parties, but want to stay away from the E. any alternatives - that give mad euphoria and love-connection, low-anxiety, and no major brain damage? maybe 2cb+beer?
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alternative party drugs/combos?
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Hamish Harrumph
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If it's E as in MDMA stick to that.
JBrandon
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I love 2-C-T-2. Some people have bad results, and it certainly made my girlfriend projectile vomit for about 40 minutes on the come-up, but it is longer lasting than ecstasy and I found the entire experience more pleasurable on the whole.
I had an awesome bodyload, I was clear-headed and cerebral, and I had some interesting visual effects.
The next day I woke up and I felt fine. No afterglow, no hangover. Certainly better than drinking or any amphetamine compounds.
I personally stay away from the ecstasy myself - it is an amazing drug and you won't find anything that will compare to it directly, but there are other compounds worth your time that don't carry as much risk.
Good luck!
I had an awesome bodyload, I was clear-headed and cerebral, and I had some interesting visual effects.
The next day I woke up and I felt fine. No afterglow, no hangover. Certainly better than drinking or any amphetamine compounds.
I personally stay away from the ecstasy myself - it is an amazing drug and you won't find anything that will compare to it directly, but there are other compounds worth your time that don't carry as much risk.
Good luck!
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in b4 close...
if you have drugs on hand that you know how they affect you, then you don't need us to help you decide.
if you don't have drugs on hand or you have drugs that you have not personally tested a safe dosage of... then wtf can we do for you?
if you have drugs on hand that you know how they affect you, then you don't need us to help you decide.
if you don't have drugs on hand or you have drugs that you have not personally tested a safe dosage of... then wtf can we do for you?
i see what you're saying, but surely you can give me and others ideas and direction. different drugs effect people differently, but there's a lot of overlap. there could be combinations most people have considered, too.
Bomboclat
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I suggest going to erowid (or our own TR forum), reading some trip reports, and making the decision for yourself. As you said, different drugs affect people differently, so what we tell you might be completely different from what you actually experience.
Besides the fact that these types of threads arent allowed
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Id go with 2C-B or 2C-C, maybe one of the new RC stims if thats your thang. (5-IAI comes to mind, as well as the betaketones if you're not in the UK).
Besides the fact that these types of threads arent allowed
.Id go with 2C-B or 2C-C, maybe one of the new RC stims if thats your thang. (5-IAI comes to mind, as well as the betaketones if you're not in the UK).
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highschool/hobo speedball is a fun combo (caffeine, preferably from Denny's; and alcohol, preferably from mouthwash)
i haven't tried 2C-B, but i love 2C-x in the presence of friends. and as JB said most of them last longer than ecstasy so you won't waste your time money and health trying to redose to chase a high. not sure if i would add more than one beer to it, because I don't enjoy the gassiness that 2C-x give me. but there is definitely euphoria and emotional opening from 2C-x, it just takes a little bit of work (set and settin!)
"mad euphoria and love connection" pretty much describes ecstasy, so... can't believe this isn't closed yet
i haven't tried 2C-B, but i love 2C-x in the presence of friends. and as JB said most of them last longer than ecstasy so you won't waste your time money and health trying to redose to chase a high. not sure if i would add more than one beer to it, because I don't enjoy the gassiness that 2C-x give me. but there is definitely euphoria and emotional opening from 2C-x, it just takes a little bit of work (set and settin!)
"mad euphoria and love connection" pretty much describes ecstasy, so... can't believe this isn't closed yet
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this is a 'what should i take' thread.
if you are interested in novel combinations of drugs that you have in your possession, you should use the search engine to find the proper big&dandy or combo thread and post in there. that way you'll have a ton of info already!
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i'm still not sure you know what you want to ask.
just read through pihkal and tihkal and erowid's experience vaults...
you're posting in psychedelic drugs so most people here are going to be familiar with shrooms, lsd, DMT, mescaline, 2c-x, ketamine, DXM, and to a limited extent synthetic cannabinoids or maybe anticholinergics. the ones that are similar are usually someone predictable in effects and you can read more about them in the big and dandy threads.
what drugs do you have on hand or easily accessible?
for a party-type setting (in which everyone else will be rolling on ecstasy) i would think a 2c-x is the best alternative to x itself. 2c-x have really incredible body highs, sometimes so good you want to leave the party and just go fuck the next warm thing you see...
shrooms, ayahuasca, or the 4-substituted tryptamines are great for more introspective and astral trips where you might just want to 'clock out' from this dimension for a little while...
lsd can be useful for a number of things depending on dosage
mescaline is pretty much the granddaddy of all the compounds in PiHKAL, and also shows different sides depending on extract method, dose, and set/setting...
just read through pihkal and tihkal and erowid's experience vaults...
you're posting in psychedelic drugs so most people here are going to be familiar with shrooms, lsd, DMT, mescaline, 2c-x, ketamine, DXM, and to a limited extent synthetic cannabinoids or maybe anticholinergics. the ones that are similar are usually someone predictable in effects and you can read more about them in the big and dandy threads.
what drugs do you have on hand or easily accessible?
for a party-type setting (in which everyone else will be rolling on ecstasy) i would think a 2c-x is the best alternative to x itself. 2c-x have really incredible body highs, sometimes so good you want to leave the party and just go fuck the next warm thing you see...
shrooms, ayahuasca, or the 4-substituted tryptamines are great for more introspective and astral trips where you might just want to 'clock out' from this dimension for a little while...
lsd can be useful for a number of things depending on dosage
mescaline is pretty much the granddaddy of all the compounds in PiHKAL, and also shows different sides depending on extract method, dose, and set/setting...
Delsyd
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I suggest going to erowid (or our own TR forum), reading some trip reports, and making the decision for yourself. As you said, different drugs affect people differently, so what we tell you might be completely different from what you actually experience.
Besides the fact that these types of threads arent allowed
Id go with 2C-B or 2C-C, maybe one of the new RC stims if thats your thang. (5-IAI comes to mind, as well as the betaketones if you're not in the UK).
ditto
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