Alprazolam 2 mg wafers VS. Alprazolam 2 mg bars

[dishearten]

Good afternoon Bluelight babies, it's been a while since my last personal venture on here.. my apologies, it's been tough as i know i needn't explain on that one at this moment..
what i'm seriously coming to the best of the Blues is because i've been prescribed Alprazolam 2mg BARS three times a day for the past 2-3 years at least to my recollection.. i'd love the opportunity to let you all know the reasons behind the PTSD and all the horrid reasons i'm on yes, such a high dose.. but the fact of the matter is that i just filled my prescription last night of my Alprazolam and to my surprise-- they were these wafer "pies" by "Boca Pharm"... I was like... WTFMATE .. Seriously.. I have never in my 25 years taken one of these, and to my dismay i've been quite worried that for the next month i'm going to be a basket-case ...
So, i have only taken two so far, one last night.. and one this morning.. all i have felt has been chest pain.. (i also have a heart condition and i'm prescribed Propanol for that, which is nothing new..) bottom line, is that this "wafer" crap feels like it's a "nocebo" or like i may be having an an allergic reaction to the inactive ingredients in this wretched little round pill.. which yes, i told my pharmacist just about 2 hours ago who claims it's all the same and said he'd call me back.
Anyway, i'm having chest pains, the kind that worries me.. the kind that makes me think i may have a panic attack that may put me in risk of a small heart attack (i know i'm young, but i don't know guys.. i was born under a shitty star)
So i told them at the pharmacy all this, and i was like i only took two one last night and one this morning and i'm really not feeling too good.. i'm not feeling the way they normally help me feel. they shouldn't be giving me pains, or making the pains worse i know for sure.
Bottom line, i'm so pissed off and i'm worried that for the next month i'm going to be battling something scary with these "wafer pies"...

What i'm wondering is have anyone experienced this kind of switch out of nowhere? Has anyone noticed this kind of weird pain with the "wafer"? What should i do?
I feel like i've done all i could for now, i dont know if i should keep trying to take them or not.. I cannot afford to feel like this, i have way too much stress in my life which is why i need this amount of medication.

If anyone can help me, as in let me know if they've experienced this too, or if anyone can help do some research with me-- i would be so grateful..
I know this pharmacist isn't too bright, he said he couldn't give me my normal bars because they aren't stocked but he's going to look into it; so basically leaving me feeling alone like fn always..
Please help..

(If it would help.. I'll list my other meds;
Prozac; 1 in the morning (Severe Depression), (Severe Anxiety, PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, Agoraphobia, Severe Disassociation Disorder),&
(Adult Children of Alcoholic and Drug Disorder)
Oxcarbazepine; 3 times a day (Seizure Disorder)
Propanolol; 3 times a day (Preventive Heart Attack Due By Severe Stress, (Severe Anxiety, PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, Agoraphobia, Severe Disassociation Disorder), &
(Adult Children of Alcoholic and Drug Disorder)
Adderall IR; 2 times a day (Attention Deficit Disorder)
Alprazolam; 3 times a day (Severe Anxiety, PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, Agoraphobia, Severe Disassociation Disorder), (Adult Children of Alcoholic and Drug Disorder)
Seroquil; 1 before bed (REM Sleep Disorder)
Prazosin; 1 before bed (Night Terror Disorder)
Immetrex; 1 as needed (Chronic Headaches)
Vitamin D; 1 a week (Severe Vitamin D Deficiency)


Thank you SO kindly for your time reading my inquiry,
dishearten

 

[Rybee]

I've switched to and from Klonopin wafers to tablets and never had a problem. I hate to say it, but I think this is more of a psychological issue than it is a physiological one.

 

[dishearten]

I've switched to and from Klonopin wafers to tablets and never had a problem. I hate to say it, but I think this is more of a psychological issue than it is a physiological one.

Thank you Rybee for the response,
I was thinking it could very well be psychological. Not seeing what i usually see in my bottle, last night i was thinking wtf is this a joke is this aspirin or something until i did a lot of research on them.
I was thinking i've was having a panic attack because simply they're not the same on the outside.
I hope so much that i can get past that one, i don't want to have one more thing to worry about when they're suppose to help me with all that i'm going through as it is.

Until last night, i had no idea the wafers existed which made it even more of a shock for me and i almost fainted and thought i was robbed by one of the pharmacists or something lol..

 

[downerhead]

Are you talking about the ones that are like 2mg bars,just round and scored into 4 wedge shaped pieces or the ones made specifically as an orally disintigrating tablet?The former seem about the same as other 2mg alprazolam to me,I've had them many times and no complaints.Only heard of the orally disintigrating tablets so I don't know about those but I've taken Xanax for years and the differences between different manufacturers seems miniscule,unlike generic diazapam which can vary to a great degree.Google has an excellent pill identifier that lets you search by shape,color,imprint etc...Maybe try that.With the plethora of other psychoactive meds you are on ,seeing the different looking pills could have triggered anxiety,as Rybee suggested.But I would seriously try that Google pill identifier,it tells you everything about the drug,including inactive ingredients.

 

[dishearten]

Are you talking about the ones that are like 2mg bars,just round and scored into 4 wedge shaped pieces or the ones made specifically as an orally disintigrating tablet?The former seem about the same as other 2mg alprazolam to me,I've had them many times and no complaints.Only heard of the orally disintigrating tablets so I don't know about those but I've taken Xanax for years and the differences between different manufacturers seems miniscule,unlike generic diazapam which can vary to a great degree.Google has an excellent pill identifier that lets you search by shape,color,imprint etc...Maybe try that.With the plethora of other psychoactive meds you are on ,seeing the different looking pills could have triggered anxiety,as Rybee suggested.But I would seriously try that Google pill identifier,it tells you everything about the drug,including inactive ingredients.

I researched these on google, all the molecular compounds of this, drugs.com, everything.. All due to the fact that I really haven't been feeling okay with these for two days now.
These ones i'm talking about the ones that are round, and scored into the 4 pieces.. The pharmacist said there shouldn't be any difference, just the manufacturer and shape. But it really feels different.
I've been on the actual bars for years now, these "wafers" that say BP 633 for this month that i received truly feel like I'm just waiting for hours for my chest pains to go away and it doesn't... it's been concerning and nobody at the pharmacy is taking me seriously..

 

[thatdruggychick]

Everyone has different body chemistry, and some are just more sensitive to even the smallest of changes, it could be they're using more cut in these wafers and that is making you feel unwell. :/ I've noticed a difference from getting my alprozalam 2mg bars from different pharmacies, Such as, when I receive the green colored bars they are completely ineffective.. I even did a blind test where i didn't know which I was taking and still I knew the difference... If the pharmacists are not taking you seriously they need to a new job. Call your prescriber and explain to them, hopefully a doctorate will set the pharmacists into action! Wishing you the best!

 

[dishearten]

Everyone has different body chemistry, and some are just more sensitive to even the smallest of changes, it could be they're using more cut in these wafers and that is making you feel unwell. :/ I've noticed a difference from getting my alprozalam 2mg bars from different pharmacies, Such as, when I receive the green colored bars they are completely ineffective.. I even did a blind test where i didn't know which I was taking and still I knew the difference... If the pharmacists are not taking you seriously they need to a new job. Call your prescriber and explain to them, hopefully a doctorate will set the pharmacists into action! Wishing you the best!

Hey thatdruggychick,
Thanks SO much for your response..
Honestly, I'm agreeing with you based on what I'm experiencing over here.
I've been hoping so badly that this were psychological.. Usually that's my answers, but not on this one I don't think.
I've taken apart ALL the molecular structures for both kinds, and they ARE indeed slightly different and the inactive ingredients are different..
The only relief i'm getting since I received my meds refills are when I take my Adderall with this "wafer bs".. But it's honestly just what the Adderall does.. not this wafer pie Xanax shit.
I'm really frustrated.. It's been day's now since I started this thread when I received my refills, and I was hoping so much that I wouldn't be having panic attacks even after I take my Xanax, like wtf..
As I previously stated, I also have a heart condition and can't afford to screw around, but I feel like a guinea pig and I'm really depressed over this, like what am I suppose to do for the next MONTH???

My panic attacks are serious, they sometimes lead to my seizures, and sometimes lead to mild heart attacks.
They start in the middle of my chest, go to the left, and then I feel it go straight through to my back.. The pain results everywhere in this area.
Why would they do this to me..
I feel so stupid and almost like this next month is going to wind up with me really sick..
I really don't know what to do, and you (thatdruggychick) sound's like you know exactly what I'm talking about with the difference of the different pharmaceutical companies..

What did you do when your meds were changed look wise? Did you go that month freaking out??
Yes, I completely agree this pharmacy is fucking retarded, they got back to me and said "oh well ummmm, I went through all your medications and it looks like your inactive ingredients are in all the other meds you take.. So there shouldn't be a problem with your new Xanax.. Maybe there's a different problem with you." lol.. are you kidding me?

My father thinks I should call my doctor, but I honestly feel like she may look at me like a junkie or something because they're not the "bars" and whatnot and my medication regimen has been SO incredibly helpful.. I don't want anything to be compromised by the unintelligibly of this pharmacy..
I definitely know next month i'm going to make sure my medicines are going to be from the RIGHT manufacturers for sure, but as of right now.. what do you think I should do?

Much love,
dishearten

 

[thatdruggychick]

Yeah I know exactly what your talking about, minus seizures my panic disorder is so severe I Im on bus par x4 daily, kpin 2mg 2x daily, and xanax 2mg x2 daily... It is no bloody joke! and I agree with your dad call your dr. and or bitch out the pharmacy until they trade out your remaing "wafers" for your standard bars, if they're so wonderful then they should have no problem taking them back and replacing them. ass holes. I went to my pharmacy midst a panic attack to get my script exchanged, they weren't about to argue with a girl who couldn't barely stand or breath. Also if you call you dr and he accuses you of any kinda of drug seeking behavior you use the whole daddy told me to thing, you should not have to suffer for a bloody month because they cant figure their shit out. You have a right to be properly medicated!3333 Lemme know how everything goes!!

 

[sekio]

Xanax is xanax, whether it comes in wafer or bar form is immaterial.

The wafers should actually disintegrate easier and be able to be dissolved under your tongue better then the bars. They are literally the same sort of pill just a different shape.

I've heard of this kind of stuff happening all the time (people switch medications to a different format, then whine and complain about vague bad effects) but I've never seen any sort of either conclusive proof that there's huge differences in the dose formats or any sort of lawsuits. Remember, the FDA inspects facilities that manufacture generic pills & test them to be sure that they are equivalent to the original formulation. (It's usually seen way more often in people with anxiety disorders than the general population...)

"oh well ummmm, I went through all your medications and it looks like your inactive ingredients are in all the other meds you take.. So there shouldn't be a problem with your new Xanax.. Maybe there's a different problem with you." lol.. are you kidding me?

Well, no, that's quite believable given the amount of polypharmacy you're engaged in... you take nine different medications, I mean. It's not like the wafers contain a secret formulation designed to make you feel sick, or anythign otherwise unusual for a pill.

My advice is just calm down and let your medication work, or you will end up convincing yourself that your medication is inactive, which is entirely possible. If you insist on getting your medication switched back, don't get hysterical and/or accusatory. Just ask your pharmacist politely why your dose form was changed, and tell him or her that you would prefer getting it in the bars because it would make you feel better.

 

[dishearten]

Originally Posted by thatdruggychick
Everyone has different body chemistry, and some are just more sensitive to even the smallest of changes, it could be they're using more cut in these wafers and that is making you feel unwell. :/ I've noticed a difference from getting my alprozalam 2mg bars from different pharmacies, Such as, when I receive the green colored bars they are completely ineffective.. I even did a blind test where i didn't know which I was taking and still I knew the difference... If the pharmacists are not taking you seriously they need to a new job. Call your prescriber and explain to them, hopefully a doctorate will set the pharmacists into action! Wishing you the best!"

Xanax is xanax, whether it comes in wafer or bar form is immaterial.

The wafers should actually disintegrate easier and be able to be dissolved under your tongue better then the bars. They are literally the same sort of pill just a different shape.

I've heard of this kind of stuff happening all the time (people switch medications to a different format, then whine and complain about vague bad effects) but I've never seen any sort of either conclusive proof that there's huge differences in the dose formats or any sort of lawsuits. Remember, the FDA inspects facilities that manufacture generic pills & test them to be sure that they are equivalent to the original formulation. (It's usually seen way more often in people with anxiety disorders than the general population...)



Well, no, that's quite believable given the amount of polypharmacy you're engaged in... you take nine different medications, I mean. It's not like the wafers contain a secret formulation designed to make you feel sick, or anythign otherwise unusual for a pill.

My advice is just calm down and let your medication work, or you will end up convincing yourself that your medication is inactive, which is entirely possible. If you insist on getting your medication switched back, don't get hysterical and/or accusatory. Just ask your pharmacist politely why your dose form was changed, and tell him or her that you would prefer getting it in the bars because it would make you feel better.

Interesting..
Have you read this whole thread?
I created this thread SEKIO for help.. Not to feel like I'm "whining" because of a possible side effect from the molecular differences in my medication no matter how big or small they may be.

You stated;
"I've heard of this kind of stuff happening all the time (people switch medications to a different format, then whine and complain about vague bad effects)"

Is that what you think i'm doing? Because truthfully, it feels like i'm being attacked for a legitimate worry about my medication, the very place I come here for peace and comfort from people that do not judge and just MAY understand.

Do you think that THATDRUGGYCHICK is whining too when she agreed that the slightest difference can throw me off because the same thing happened to her??

I'm trying to calm down, but quite frankly it's difficult when I look for help and am told i'm basically whining because my medicine is completely different looking and even the molecular structures are as well.

You also stated;
"Well, no, that's quite believable given the amount of polypharmacy you're engaged in... you take nine different medications, I mean. It's not like the wafers contain a secret formulation designed to make you feel sick, or anything otherwise unusual for a pill."

If you read in full why I'm prescribed nine different medications, perhaps you would understand a little better to why the change had effected me so.


I don't tell everyone why i'm on so much medication, the reason for it was so someone can possibly help and only ONE person thus far has experienced the same.. Which is fine, I'm grateful she understands.

The point is, is that if you have never been there, you shouldn't assume a very fragile person is whining and fearful..

dishearten

 

[thatdruggychick]

Interesting..
Have you read this whole thread?
I created this thread SEKIO for help.. Not to feel like I'm "whining" because of a possible side effect from the molecular differences in my medication no matter how big or small they may be.

You stated;
"I've heard of this kind of stuff happening all the time (people switch medications to a different format, then whine and complain about vague bad effects)"

Is that what you think i'm doing? Because truthfully, it feels like i'm being attacked for a legitimate worry about my medication, the very place I come here for peace and comfort from people that do not judge and just MAY understand.

Do you think that THATDRUGGYCHICK is whining too when she agreed that the slightest difference can throw me off because the same thing happened to her??

I'm trying to calm down, but quite frankly it's difficult when I look for help and am told i'm basically whining because my medicine is completely different looking and even the molecular structures are as well.

You also stated;
"Well, no, that's quite believable given the amount of polypharmacy you're engaged in... you take nine different medications, I mean. It's not like the wafers contain a secret formulation designed to make you feel sick, or anything otherwise unusual for a pill."

If you read in full why I'm prescribed nine different medications, perhaps you would understand a little better to why the change had effected me so.


I don't tell everyone why i'm on so much medication, the reason for it was so someone can possibly help and only ONE person thus far has experienced the same.. Which is fine, I'm grateful she understands.

The point is, is that if you have never been there, you shouldn't assume a very fragile person is whining and fearful..

dishearten

This is my equivalent of liking this, I could not have said it better myself! The biggest point here is that BL is supposed to be a forum for us to help one other based on our personal experience. If there is no personal experience to add to, an actually very serious thread, with physical and mental health concerns then isn't it better to not make a post? In giving misguided information could be potentially extremely harmful to (in this case) Dishearten's mental and physical health... Im legitimately shocked...8)

 

[Colonel Contin]

I have received these wafers before instead of the usual bars and noticed no difference in potency. Of course, I do not take my xanax daily and the effect of 2mg (for me) is pretty strong regardless of the pill form.

I'm just chiming in to add another experience to the pot, by the way.

 

[thatdruggychick]

I have received these wafers before instead of the usual bars and noticed no difference in potency. Of course, I do not take my xanax daily and the effect of 2mg (for me) is pretty strong regardless of the pill form.

I'm just chiming in to add another experience to the pot, by the way.

Personal experience is what we're are totally aiming for with this(am I right disheartened), but yeah taking it as a as needed probably has way different effects... Hmm... Deff put it in the melting pot!

 

[thatdruggychick]

@dishearten Im blaming my computer for the mis spelling of your user name doll face! Lol It was all me but I am blaming my auto-correct :D

 

[dishearten]

Personal experience is what we're are totally aiming for with this(am I right disheartened), but yeah taking it as a as needed probably has way different effects... Hmm... Deff put it in the melting pot!

Absolutely hon,
That dude a while above made me feel like some sort of junkie whining because I just want my bars, but in all reality-- no, it's about the difference of molecular structure, the way they are manufactured, the way they metabolize, and how different it is compared to what my body and brain chemistry has been used to for the past years. @Colonel Contin, taking them here and there is very different than 2mgs 3 times daily.. but that's how bad my anxiety, heart attacks, ptsd, and so on is. you are lucky you only need them seldom. it's painful all day, just about every day.. thank you for your input, at least it didn't feel like an attack lol.. I just intended this thread to see if others had the same experiences and if they didn't, why does it feel so terribly different.

Anyways! i'm open to all opinions, at least thatdruggychick understands exactly, i'm grateful for that.

dishearten

 

[thatdruggychick]

Yeah seriously I'm shocked no one else has experienced anything like it... :/ and also Im surprised they don't have you on the same regiment as me, your usuals then 2mg kpin 2x a day (12 hour) for the heart to stay calm and then just two of the 2mg xanax a day to keep from freakin the fuck out! I have to have the kpin under neath other wise my xanax dose would be astronomical. :/ Life of the anxiety ridden >.< Ive never even met someone who has even close to as bad anxiety as I do. so its refreshing to know that I'm not just a fucking whack job

 

[pirates_]

I've used those before with a low tolerance(at the time) n they did nothiNg. Gg2249 n the old circle mylans always give me the desired effect..not those

 

[Amphetacaine]

it could be due too poor potency from the manufacturer, or less bioavalibity, try using them sublingually or with a different ROA of preference. or cut them into half or threes for quicker release?

 

[pirates_]

You shouldn't have to do that tho. If u were give alprazolam the only roa should be popping it

 

[dankplantgrower]

"Popping it" makes me think of just swallowing it. I found the best ROA for Xanax and Librium to be sublingual. Works much faster for "breakthrough" anxiety.