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Almost 23 and have never gotten laid

gmlifer said:
Not surprising that you would be so worried about her looks. It seems you are as shallow as you claim the girls that won't look at you to be. Good luck.
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What you're saying here is that he needs to have his first time with a girl he doesn't find attractive to avoid appearing shallow ? There is nothing shallow in wanting to have sex with someone you find at least somewhat attractive, especially if it's your first time. As long as his expectations aren't too high there is nothing wrong with turning someone down. But nah I'm going to fuck every wildebeest I come across so that I'm not labelled as shallow.
 
Durzo1258 said:
What you're saying here is that he needs to have his first time with a girl he doesn't find attractive to avoid appearing shallow ? There is nothing shallow in wanting to have sex with someone you find at least somewhat attractive, especially if it's your first time. As long as his expectations aren't too high there is nothing wrong with turning someone down. But nah I'm going to fuck every wildebeest I come across so that I'm not labelled as shallow.
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Is that last statement sarcasm? I think it is. Can't tell sometimes.

In any event, I've done some thinking and I think the best I can hope for is to work hard at being the man that the woman I want would want to be with. It is my hope that someday, maybe in 2 or 3 years, these lonely confused days will be nothing but days gone by, the days before Dave (that's me) grabbed life by the horns and developed what it takes to win a girl's heart, not just what's in her pants.

That's the nice thing about weed. Sooner or later, it all becomes just memories. If you're lucky enough (or unlucky enough, as the case may be) to still have them.
 
Durzo1258 said:
What you're saying here is that he needs to have his first time with a girl he doesn't find attractive to avoid appearing shallow ? There is nothing shallow in wanting to have sex with someone you find at least somewhat attractive, especially if it's your first time. As long as his expectations aren't too high there is nothing wrong with turning someone down. But nah I'm going to fuck every wildebeest I come across so that I'm not labelled as shallow.
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Youre prolly right. My bad. Matters not to me, I get laid anytime I want. One of the percs of getting married.

My apologies sir.
 
jr6654 said:
Is that last statement sarcasm? I think it is. Can't tell sometimes.

In any event, I've done some thinking and I think the best I can hope for is to work hard at being the man that the woman I want would want to be with. It is my hope that someday, maybe in 2 or 3 years, these lonely confused days will be nothing but days gone by, the days before Dave (that's me) grabbed life by the horns and developed what it takes to win a girl's heart, not just what's in her pants.

That's the nice thing about weed. Sooner or later, it all becomes just memories. If you're lucky enough (or unlucky enough, as the case may be) to still have them.
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The wildebeest part was sarcasm yes.
2-3 years ? I'm sure you can do better then that, just don't spend your time at home in front of the pc or tv, being out is the most important part here. Spring is coming, best time to meet people.
 
Durzo1258 said:
The wildebeest part was sarcasm yes.
2-3 years ? I'm sure you can do better then that, just don't spend your time at home in front of the pc or tv, being out is the most important part here. Spring is coming, best time to meet people.
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Your words warm my heart and I appreciate your advice. Thanks.
 
OP you need to lower your standards or you will end up like the 40 year old virgin, which from your latests posts is exactly where you are headed. This kid thinks he's guna just score the perfect girl of his dreams, smoking hot chick with a pretty face and a decent body... it don't work like that tho...

I'm honestly done with trying to give you advice man since you clearly ignored everything I said, and it seems like people here are starting to feel the same way... 9 pages of trying to give a virgin advice? thats crazy you should have already gotten laid by now
 
mrsnowygrainius said:
This kid thinks he's guna just score the perfect girl of his dreams, smoking hot chick with a pretty face and a decent body... it don't work like that tho...
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And why the hell not? I'm presuming you, of course, could?

I've been told all my life by people what I can and can't do. It gets old
 
jr6654 said:
And why the hell not? I'm presuming you, of course, could?

I've been told all my life by people what I can and can't do. It gets old
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Maybe if you would take charge of yourself and stop being a Debbie downer people would stop talking AT you.
 
gmlifer said:
Maybe if you would take charge of yourself and stop being a Debbie downer people would stop talking AT you.
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Bingo. I mean I don't disagree that attitude needs changed. I just resent the statement that I could never, conceivably, positively, supercalifuckinglisticexpialidociously get a beautiful and sweet woman, and instead wind up with some ugly fat chick who is always cleaning out my bank account, that's all.
 
I don't think anyone said you couldn't land a fine girl. I think the point was that you are the one that is aggravated about being a 23 year old virgin but when the opportunity comes along to get laid well now you wanna be picky. Just fuck her and move on with your life.
 
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If I were the OP, I'd leave the 17 year old alone. Even if 17 is over the age of consent in the state they're in, he could still run into drama with her parents if she's still living at home. It doesn't sound like it would be worth the potential headache. They'd probably see him as some older guy who's "taking advantage" of their sweet little angel.

If a guy's not getting laid, his looks probably aren't the reason. There are a lot of girls who can overlook appearance if a guy is funny or smart or treats them well. A lot more than the reverse. He should just be glad he isn't a woman, because appearance is a much bigger factor in terms of how our attractiveness is judged.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Anyway stop talking and get stalking that pussy...
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Stalking might not be the way to go about it.

perro-salchicha614 said:
Even if 17 is over the age of consent in the state they're in,
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World exists outside of US you know, where I live age of consent is 16 for example. Not every place is as anal retentive as 'murica. Sex at 18, booze at 21 but you can join the army and go to war at 16.
 
Why on earth did you post a picture of your neighbour on a drug website? That's pretty disrespectful and weird behaviour. I think you should remove it. No one cares about comparing his looks to your's, that is incredibly childish.

Seriously though, OP. I think you are concerning yourself with things that are creating self-defeating prophecies. You do not need facial hair, aggression or the constant washing of pussy juice from your beard to be a man. You are focusing on superficial things, rather than the actual important things that you can change. You will have sex at some point, just know this. When it comes, it comes. Personally, if you really want sex, I think you will get it. But if you focus on things which are not connected, like beards and your neighbour, I think you may be waiting a bit. Open yourself up and take it if it comes to you. Having sex does not make you a man.
 
swilow said:
Why on earth did you post a picture of your neighbour on a drug website? That's pretty disrespectful and weird behaviour. I think you should remove it. No one cares about comparing his looks to your's, that is incredibly childish.

Seriously though, OP. I think you are concerning yourself with things that are creating self-defeating prophecies. You do not need facial hair, aggression or the constant washing of pussy juice from your beard to be a man. You are focusing on superficial things, rather than the actual important things that you can change. You will have sex at some point, just know this. When it comes, it comes. Personally, if you really want sex, I think you will get it. But if you focus on things which are not connected, like beards and your neighbour, I think you may be waiting a bit. Open yourself up and take it if it comes to you. Having sex does not make you a man.
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Okay, I deleted it.

I don't want to harp on this topic too much more but I want to address your questions.

I don't think it's entirely unnatural to compare myself others. People have been doing it since the beginning of time, and if this one guy happens to be getting fucked a lot and I am not, doesn't it seem like a logical thought path to dissect his appearance? Or maybe that's just the analytical creature I am.

I don't think it's unnatural to be obsessed with beards either. I was always the runt, the kid who looked young for his age. A little secret, mine will be a fake beard anyway, from chemicals designed to restore hair on the head that I am putting on my face, but it does work and yes I will look a shit ton older, especially if I start to lose hair on my head. Why do you ask do I care about this? Because everything I have observed has led me to believe that young women gravitate to older or more mature guys. In person I am mature and intelligent, funny even, girls have noted, but I don't get taken seriously. I have a babyface. I've come to accept that.

Oh, for what it's worth, I also probably have borderline personality disorder. Either that or I smoked too much weed in my late teens. Oops.

If having sex doesn't make me a man, then honestly I must be a bit more of a man than that kid next door who fucks random girls for fun, by virtue of waiting for something more significant.
 
Honestly you're right. I need to forget about sex for awhile. Deep down my heart says I want it with someone who means something to me, and when the time is right. It makes sense that I would obsess about it as a virgin but it will destroy me if I don't stop.

I need to chill out and do big, hard things that will make me more interesting, fulfilled, and make life worth living. And that alone will attract women more than my present existence

I'm not really a believer in God but someone I know recently shared a post on Facebook which said -

"If God keeps closing a door, stop banging on it! Maybe he knows you are worth more"

And it just made a connection in my brain
 
I have a bad ass manly as hell beard now but it was my super cool baby face that won my wife.

I read a study somewhere a few years ago that women tend to want to marry the baby face types but they do tend to want to fuck or mate with the masculine type. You seem to be more interested in a relationship so the truth is you already have the tools to land a long term gal.

You will have to get over being so self conscious at some point and stop trying so hard. Just talk to them and try to make friends and see where it goes from there.

Aight, this has been beat to death so I'm done. Good luck friend.
 
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