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Allergy tested 4 MEO PCP...

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I placed a minute amount on my gums, there is no inflammation just a stinging/tingling sensation aswell as a numbing one. I have never had this feeling from allergy testing before, of course is could be that it's the drug it self being an irritant. It's in HCl form. Just wanted to ask if anyone else has had this same sensation or if that is a tell tale sign of a an allergy/toxic reaction.

Edit: My mate also tested and had the same sensation so I have dosed my self and all is well. So it doesn't matter. (-=
For future reference. DO NOT SNIFF! Forget 2cx this is RAW.
Many thanks
 
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What you are looking for are systemic allergy effects (skin itchiness, runny nose, light sensitivity, shortness of breath, wheezing) and not as much a local effect. Many psychoactives constrict or dilate the bloodvessels. If you apply that locally in very high concentration, its only natural that it stings. Things like 2C-E hurt so much in the nose because they are strong vasoconstrictors applied locally in high concentrations, pinching the vessels of the mucous membranes shut.
 
You know, allergy testing is certainly a good idea - especially with compounds that have high active dosage ranges... I will keep recommending that everyone do this and I myself do titrate carefully instead of dropping what is assumed to be a normal/full dose.

But my question is: has anyone ever had overreactions to a specific drug, that was discovered by allergy testing? It seems like an important reason to allergy test is to check whether the drug appears to be as it was advertised and not a potentially dangerous and superpotent compound like say Bromo-dragonfly. Other than that it seems like a 10.000 to 1 chance of something truly idiosyncratic and full of warning happening. Basically I have no idea about the odds, also I would like to know about special cases where people had serious overreactions such as an autoimmune effects or severe intolerance for certain side-effects.
 
By allergy testing if found out that 10mg mediocre weed gets me high, and 25mg precipitates an intense panic attack with chest pain. If I had done a half gram bong I'm convinced you could call 911 for me, my mind and body react that strongly to THC. If a doctor gives me meds I allergy test them too.
 
Yeah that's what I was looking put for but it turned out ok. I also allergy test any medicines/drugs that i take as there is that 1/1x chance that it could be me with a severe histaminic reaction to the drug so why take the risk ya zim? (-=
 
Wow never heard anyone that active on just weed alone.

It seems like an important reason to allergy test is to check whether the drug appears to be as it was advertised and not a potentially dangerous and superpotent compound like say Bromo-dragonfly.
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Indeed if you get a bag of MXE in the mail and a bag of DOC, you bet your ass you test both of them at less than a mg to see if they are mixed first! lol
Even if they are labeled. Didn't believe it until you check for yourself.
Some of these people could potentially be buying 5-6 different RC's in one order that are all active at very low MG doses.

As far as HCL's go..
being salty forms it's no surprise they irritate the skin. They are sharp and probably can actually cut the skin and irritate it. Put some shards or rock salts on your gums and you may get an irritation.

With M1 if you put it on your tongue it sucks. Tongue gets shredded and taste icky.
I'm not sure if that is an HCL or a Fumerate but it's crystally and salty and shards all at once.
 
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I don't believe that. Sharp shards may make matters worse but typically I'd expect the same compound in fine powder form to be just as irritating. And I don't think it's because of the HCl salt form either. It should be absorbed in that same ionized form, why would a salt dissociate into a freebase and acid? If you were correct all HCl, HBr and other strong acid salt forms should be irritating - this is not the case is it? There surely are HCl salts that do not burn - ketamine is nasty but it doesn't burn does it? Maybe not a good example but if you are right I will be very surprised and will have learned something new.

Freebase compounds can burn like absolute fucking hell, like say DMT... others, like lot's of benzo's that cannot form a stable salt, don't burn one bit - rather the opposite: dissolved under the tongue it feels pretty smooth.
 
4-MeO-PCP caused SEVERE histamine release when IV'ed, as the HCl salt. Instant feeling of being hit in the face by nettles.
 
Wow I'm sorry to hear that happened, but thanks a lot for the warning. At least for others, I don't do IV and only IM very specific drugs.
 
this product is a white powder, turns brown in solution, fuckoff potent antidiuretic, SERIOUSLY sting/burns like hell whn IV'ed, causes severe ataxia, raises body temperature significantly. I had to take a fuckton of prebagabalin, chlormethiazole, nitrazepam, loprazolam and tizanidine to stop a seizure.


And its causing severe tearing and difficulty breathing.
 
And yet it produces good or okay effects when taken enterally?

You mean tearing as in lachrymatory??

I'm interested in 3-MeO-PCP but I never was certain at all about wanting to try my 4-MeO-PCP sample. Now I find it even less appetizing, maybe for the wrong reasons, maybe not. I don't see why I would risk it.
 
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I don't believe that. Sharp shards may make matters worse but typically I'd expect the same compound in fine powder form to be just as irritating. And I don't think it's because of the HCl salt form either. It should be absorbed in that same ionized form, why would a salt dissociate into a freebase and acid? If you were correct all HCl, HBr and other strong acid salt forms should be irritating - this is not the case is it? There surely are HCl salts that do not burn - ketamine is nasty but it doesn't burn does it? Maybe not a good example but if you are right I will be very surprised and will have learned something new.

Freebase compounds can burn like absolute fucking hell, like say DMT... others, like lot's of benzo's that cannot form a stable salt, don't burn one bit - rather the opposite: dissolved under the tongue it feels pretty smooth.
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I suppose you are right. Each thing can be different.
Just had odd experiences with applying HCL's orally..
I have not tried 4 MEO PCP
 
Yes, it seems to be potently lachrymatory. I Tried this IV, and, holy fucking shit does it ever cause sting like a fatherfucker when IV'ed. causes immediate stinging of the face and hands, I can email a GC trace if anyone is interested.
 
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