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Hello my friends....

Just wanted to say Happy Valentine's Day to everyone. I wish I could stay sober for real but the damn pills get me every time. I am trying so hard, I take 'em as directed, etc. It's a bitch. My prayers are with all of you! Especially you, Guinie Pig, you know I love ya.<3
 
Another Saturday night.......

Well I'm sure that I am an alcoholic...lets see, I usually binge drink once or twice a week. I've had a few DUI's. Not for the last 10 years though. I'm in my early 40's. That makes me quite the geriatric case on these boards. I went on a binge about 3 days ago. I can go through an 18 pack in one binge. I haven't bought any today though and the stores close in about 30 min. Just reading through some of this thread has given me the strength to wait out the always available debacle.

When I was 19 and in my first "bachelor pad" ever, we were having a wild drinking party involving the hard stuff and I blacked out and fell straight on top of a wooden table- putting a subdural hematoma right below the hairline. Ughh. It was an end of semester party and that probably resulted in one month of teetotaling. I didn't hear the end of that one for a few years.

Aside from on/off MJ use, alcohol has been the only drug I've done to speak of.
Sure I've tried coke and LSD but once a year or less doesn't make them a real problem. I haven't had any liver function tests, but know that I have a cousin I haven't heard from in years who nearly died of pancreatitis.

Having some good enjoyable recreation that doesn't involve booze has been a life saver for me. I have gone hiking all over the US and Nepal and Chile as well. Backpacking is just not an activity that encourages carrying large quantities of beer. Sure, I've been on trips where some was taken along, but it doesn't last long and when you split it up between friends........

It takes me longer to recover from a binge than it did back in the day. I think they call it the law of diminishing returns. The guilt factor got to me today so I'm definitely taking the next several days off.
 
Anybody got any ideas on home detox? Ive been a heavy drinker for 10yrs and I drink because my body needs it, im at that stage.

I have been to the doctors on many occations but no luck with help. Any ideas on helping along the withdrawals?

Cheers
 
if you go to your family doc and tell them that you are trying to detox, you may get what you need since alcohol wd's can be fatal. what have the docs said when the "didn't help"?
 
Buzz.......

Dear Miss M,

Feel better.

I honestly,
honestly,
honestly
mean it...

I aint gonna giv'ya
none ad-vice,
you know what you're
doing,
an' if anyone you need
to speak to
at
anytime.point-

You skill right
mos' pos'
like n'ever.

PEACE
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Just managed to effectively cut WAY down on my intake, spent a miserable year with quite the withdrawn, miserable anxiety condition. Been using piracetam and keeping it to two beers a night (if that), in my case the claims of treating alcohol addiction are quite true. Was averaging anywhere from half pint to quart of said booze a day (probably a 50/50 split between cheap vodka and wild turkey, purely out of desperation). I truly hope this newfound hope and confidence lasts. Selah.

Alcohol was probably the absolute worst and most destructive (not to mention easiest to both attain and relapse) substance I've ever been addicted to.
 
Well the doc's said that she dont want to help me because alcoholics bring it on thier self, issued me multi vitamins :|

So Benzos are the way to go then guys? And cut the intake down slowly.
 
^^ Sounds like a shitty and irresponsible doctor. You should try another. Multivitamins will not help your alcoholism. Well, proper nutrition is an important step, but it's not going to immediately help you.
 
JB2006 said:
Well the doc's said that she dont want to help me because alcoholics bring it on thier self, issued me multi vitamins :|

So Benzos are the way to go then guys? And cut the intake down slowly.
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Another nail in the coffin for my faith in healthcare worldwide. That is the most irresponsible and shockingly reprehensible thing I've heard of in my life.

This is me still waiting for the blanket of socially conditioned ignorance and blind hateful prejudice that seems to me to prevalant for a people so-often toting their "superiority" over all other life on this planet.

:(

Edit: I think a benzo TAPER (I stress this whole-heartedly) would be sufficient, assuming you suffer discontinuation withdrawal symptoms (which I'd imagine you would in your case). If you've been using the alcohol to mask underlying anxiety issues than be super careful to not trade one habit for another, from what I've read benzo's are hard and painful to get off (like 6 months of painful tapering for longtime users). Personally if I were you and had no access to benzo's I'd order phenibut to taper with, just try not to take for more than 4 days at a time with at least a 3 day break, otherwise dependance will set in (much like other GABA agonists). Excersise, meditation, and proper diet (cut out meat if its an option?) will also help.
 
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I'm sorry this is the last you'll hear me bitching about this, but she really gave you multivitamins? Bitch recieved payment of at least 60 dollars for a general office visit to hand out OTC common vitamins?

Every night I go to sleep thinking I'll wake up from the terrible nightmare that has stricken this race with an unforgivable, unnacceptable greed and lack of empathy.

If I had to summarize in one single word to catalyze any salvation our species has for survival (and perhaps peace?) it would have to be Empathy. /rant.
 
BREAKaBEAT said:
I got drunk on both friday and saturday night. I drank half as much as I normally would, but I still blacked out.

Im off to my first AA meeting in 2 hours.
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Best thing I ever did.

Ill write more about this soon, but im now clean and sober for 34 days.

AA is a fucking god send.
 
JB2006 said:
Well the doc's said that she dont want to help me because alcoholics bring it on thier self, issued me multi vitamins :|

So Benzos are the way to go then guys? And cut the intake down slowly.
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what a fucking cunt. good news is...there is likely to be way more than one doc in your town. you would be surprised at how they will work with you at times. you simply need to doctor shop. i hope you have good insurance.
 
I remember asking myself when I stopped drinking 'how do I FALL asleep rather than pass out'. I had not had to for years.
I'm no fan of AA and would remind people that one of the founders, Bill Wilson died from smoking cigarettes. He was having to use an oxygen mask and was STILL smoking.
The longer you go without alcohol, the easier it gets, but you must always remember that you ARE an alcoholic and one drink may be ok OR you might end up chronically using it once more.
I would like to give up tobacco really, but I think I would rather swap to ganga than nothing. I don't mean the strong stuff, something like thai y'know. Subtle buzz....
 
serafina said:
I drink I try to sleep I get up I go to work I sit at work and stress. I feel run down but I can't let it get to me. If I dont work things fall apart. I'm in pain, kidneys hurt, only piss twice a day, I do drink lots of water. Eyes are bloodshot, sunken, tired so so tired. Grey skin. Broken Veins. It hurts. Fall asleep at work. I battle through. Skint, what the fuck are we going to eat, must work to pay my rent. How is he going to pay his? I can't afford to pay mine and his. My shoes have a hole in, can't afford more. Clothes are years old, need more. Don't feel confident.

He's not working I must keep us both afloat. I come home I make dinner for me and him. I struggle to get him surface from bed where he has been lying all day he gets up he struggles to eat the meal i've spent an hour making. My eyes burn I worry about work the next day I drink myself I need to to at least get some sleep. He wakes me up during the night. Asking me for booze. Broken sleep. Exhausted.

No conversation from him. We've not been anywhere for weeks. I go alone. I'm lonely. I dispair. What do I do. Must keep on keeping on. I have to work. Things wil fall apart. I need help to but I can't as I need to keep my job. I'm 27. I have no life. I sleep drink and work. He wont come places with me. I have no money to go places I spend it keeping two people. I don't earn much. I'm lonely I want my life back!
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you poor thing, you are way too young to be living as though your life is over, and working on a body that is barely functioning. you need to get rid of this man and get help. and fix yourself. you can live poor and still be happy, please pm me squeezedashaman on aim so we can chat. i will PM you too. hope you come around again <3
 
UnSquare said:
Dear Miss M,

Feel better.

I honestly,
honestly,
honestly
mean it...

I aint gonna giv'ya
none ad-vice,
you know what you're
doing,
an' if anyone you need
to speak to
at
anytime.point-

You skill right
mos' pos'
like n'ever.

PEACE
UnSquare
<3 :) <3
costumed-smiley-052.gif
<-- Whenever xox
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<3

I intend to do just that.

Thank you.
<3
 
here's a thought: do any of you experience that drinking the day after a night of boozing is fantastic? I always enjoy the day after with beer throughout the day - it seems that it is much easier to avoid the sideeffects of alcohol the day after drinking. I have no idea why.

Anyway, I drank quite a bit last night, and tonight is just better.
I am quite drunk now, but it is a much nicer "drunkness" than yesterday. Also, I only drink max twice a month, after I discovered that what you get of alcohol, alcohol will get out of you. I have no idea it that makes sense...

PS) would love to hear your benzo habits when drinking. For example. I WON'T DRINK if Ido not have some benzos for the hangover, because it's just hell without them. Also, I find that when not drinking enough alcohol, benzos will even things out a lot.

However, since this is a harm reduction site, I would love to hear HOW many benzos you take while drinking - mainly because I am of the persuasion that scaring people into thinking "if I take 2 mg valium with one beer, I WILL DIE!!!!!1111oneone" is much more harmful than it is good.

The point is, to keep some sort of credibility, we'll have to acknowledge that "harm reducton" also encompasses REDUCTION OF UNNECESSARY FEAR. People do benzos while drinking , and SCARING THEM with outlandish horror stories is not helping. I think we need to be a lot more PRAGMATIC.
 
BlackOut said:
here's a thought: do any of you experience that drinking the day after a night of boozing is fantastic? I always enjoy the day after with beer throughout the day - it seems that it is much easier to avoid the sideeffects of alcohol the day after drinking. I have no idea why.

Anyway, I drank quite a bit last night, and tonight is just better.
I am quite drunk now, but it is a much nicer "drunkness" than yesterday. Also, I only drink max twice a month, after I discovered that what you get of alcohol, alcohol will get out of you. I have no idea it that makes sense...
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I know what you are saying. I think its related to the anxiety created by drinking. Sometimes when I'm really hungover it feels really good to drink a few and get some relief. That being said sometimes the hangovers are so bad that I drinking is the last thing on my mind.

Anyway I usually don't drink enough to get that hungover anymore. I just cannot function while hungover nowadays.

Although drinking on top of benzos also makes the effects of alcohol more pleasent. That could be more related to your case.
 
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