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I've been thinking about switching one addiction for another, and while it generally isn't a good idea, I do think that I would definitely prefer a benzo habit instead of a alcohol habit.

This is on the condition that it is one or the other - no mixing. If I was drinking 12 beers a day, and I could replace those with benzos, I would do it in a heartbeat.

There's so much more going on with alcohol than with benzos, first of all that alcohol is far more euphoric, and I think that there are some metabolic issues too that makes alcohol harder to quit than benzos. Not to mention the issues of decaying inner organs.

What I am trying to say is that benzos is the lesser of two evils, and if you can stay the course, make the switch. Alcohol is so much dangerous than benzos. Benzo tapering is much more managable than alcohol tapering.

Another thing I have truly realized is how much alcohol and benzos are cross-tolerant. This is an obvious point, no doubt, but if you drink alcohol, benzos loose a lot of their therapeutic helpfulness. This fact is worth reiterating.

So, how do you guys feel about this? Will you be able to make the switch to benzos, or won't you be able to stop drinking, even if you take benzos?
 
with a doctors supervision, and a severe enough addiction to where you are at risk of seizures, benzos are ideal. i am prescribed clonazapam, and when i was tapering off alcohol, it seemed like every time id take a kpin i would start to crave alcohol fearsomely an hour or so after dosing.

that made it more uncomfortable for me, but i needed them anyway as i was seizing with them in my system, and had been taking them for 2 years prior.
 
2 weeks today , wow :)

Had some pretty bad cravings tonight , mostly because I was watching people drink. It kind of sucked a bit but I just got really stoned and tried not to think about it. It going to be really hard for me going out places now , i havent put myself in too many situations where drinking's going on so thats gonna be a real test for me.
 
panic in paradise said:
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awesomeness, so, it does start getting easier as time crawls on yes?
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Yeah its been getting a lot easier for me to stay away from it , I really wouldnt wanna mess up my day count to be honest. I would hate to be back at day one again , everyone close to me would be pretty disappointed. I'm feeling much better without it anyways , drinking was just making me way too sick after awhile. It just isn't worth the pain it causes my insides , I dont want wanna feel like that ever again.

And I'm totally loving my new found clear headedness :)
 
RedLeader said:
I just hit 2 weeks =D
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Congrats!!

I went out twice this week and only had a total of about 6 beers. That is pretty damn good for me. It was great to go out and not wake up hungover. Plus I enjoyed seeing my friends more, I was more occupied with them instead of the booze.... eventually they got all tanked and I decided to leave.

The biggest advice I can give is to break your routine. If you are used to drinking after work, then go out for walks, hit the gym, play a video game, chat with a friend or family member... basically anything but drink. At least in my case, the association broke very quickly.
 
Wow congrats rl on 2 weeks, thats like 30,000 hours. I'm going trough fucking hell right now, I want to drink so fucking bad. I'm still shaking, still cant sleep, and when I brush my teeth and rinse with mouthwash I wonder if it will get me drunk if I drink it.
I don't mean to be gory here but this is true shit, right now at this moment I'd do fucking anything for a drink. I did take some of yal's advice and went for a walk (from my dorm room down here to campus) which did help, in a way. I also don't have any ciggeretes, so I'm looking around for a half-smoked cigg. Thats like hitting the jackpot(and if it isin't a Virgina Slim, lol).

I told myself that I am going to be productive and write this paper for class, It's only 2 pages, (I don't see the "only", I see the "2 pages", and then I freak the fuck out!)
The temptations come and go, it's like quiting smoking, cravings only last for about 5 minutes.
 
D's said:
Wow congrats rl on 2 weeks, thats like 30,000 hours. I'm going trough fucking hell right now, I want to drink so fucking bad. I'm still shaking, still cant sleep, and when I brush my teeth and rinse with mouthwash I wonder if it will get me drunk if I drink it.
I don't mean to be gory here but this is true shit, right now at this moment I'd do fucking anything for a drink. I did take some of yal's advice and went for a walk (from my dorm room down here to campus) which did help, in a way. I also don't have any ciggeretes, so I'm looking around for a half-smoked cigg. Thats like hitting the jackpot(and if it isin't a Virgina Slim, lol).

I told myself that I am going to be productive and write this paper for class, It's only 2 pages, (I don't see the "only", I see the "2 pages", and then I freak the fuck out!)
The temptations come and go, it's like quiting smoking, cravings only last for about 5 minutes.
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I'm sorry your sleep problems have not gone away, D's, and that you are still craving. Before "rewarding" yourself with cigs or alcohol, why not get the paper done first?

Many alcoholics realize they have hit bottom when they start with the mouthwash trick. I even saw someone on Intervention ruin her family with that and vodka - not to mention her digestive tract. This may be carcinogenic as well.

Please don't do it, dude. It just isn't worth it.
 
You really know how to exaggerate shit don't you D's?

I don't mean to sound like a parent but we are all in this together and there's no need to man-up so much in your posts.

I know you've got problems man but can you go about them in a less macho way and then it might help people give you advice. :-x
 
I don't even know what "exaggerate" means. :\, I'm not trying to sound mancho in my post, i'm telling how it is. I've grown up around violence my entire life. It's just something I'm used to.

There's so many distractions when I'm typing on the computer. The only thing I can do is just write it on paper.
I still get overwhelmed with facing all the shit I did in my last blackout. I still have to come up with $ to pay the bailbonds lady. My car is still out in the hood with all my stuff in it. I've got court coming up, and I have no way to get there. My family hates me, and thinks if they send me any money that I'm just going to go get a bottle, so for the past week i've been living off of Oatmeal and Protein powder. I have been taking vitamins so I wont get any funny illness's for not having enough of that Vitamin.

I've been fighting this illness since day one. I'm the kind of drinker that drinks to black out, I'm never going to be able to enjoy a scotch with my grandfather because I don't to show him that I can drink those rather quick.
I have nothing to help with the anxiety, and shakes. Coldturkey sucks, but fuck I can do it. It's like the days are getting longer and longer the longer i'm sober.
congrats on anyone wanting to quit this shit <3
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i think youre handling thid perfectly D's for what its worth a lot better then i lol... ugh

you are manning up about this, fighting it to an extent, trying at least trying what people suggest, and not drinking, what more can you do? thats all you can.

keep on keep'n on.
 
Hello,
I was recommended to this website since my friend said it had a lot of helpful information about addictions and such. Getting right to the point my mother is an alcoholic and has been my whole life, I am 21 years old. She says she wants to quit and has tried multiple times cold turkey but I do not think that is the way of going about it for her. She has also called the dr. about some medication she could get but requires going to the hospital for 3 months before receiving the actual medication. She is a very stubborn woman who does not want therapy since she says this would not help her. Which it might not, I don’t know. She is going through a hard time now with divorce and all and I am very worried about her and her drinking problem once the divorce is actually finalized. Would any of you have any advice of what she could do? Is there any medications she could get that would not require month’s long treatment before hand. Any information would be very helpful thank you!
 
When I'd come off a nasty bender, the following 2 or three days would feel like ten or twelve days. It was the most unpleasant kind of time dilation I've ever experienced. It was so profound a feeling that it would really get me thinking about what kind of neurological damage one must be doing to alter something as basic as ones sense of time for so long.
Anyone else get this?
People always say the first couple days are the hardest. No shit, one day becomes like three days of prickly misery, and night stretches into a sweaty, delerious, clammy eternity of pain.
Hope no one here is in that place right now, and if you are godspeed through that place.
 
day 6 no drink, good I'm doing it. I still want to drink, but I understand the consequences when I do binge drink.

Still feeling pretty shitty on the inside, hopefully it will go away.
 
Feeling better today Redleader thanks. I'm back into doing loads of gym and recovered from the weekend binge. Here's to another two weeks of sobriety before December.
 
Can't sleep still. Pushing on 72 hours no sleep. I havn't thought about how good a drink would be now. :\
 
Still doing pretty good, have had a few drunken weekend nights but those were intended. However I have been able to cut back so much its actually surprising me. Yesterday I only had 2 beers and a glass of wine throughout the day. Last Thanksgiving I was tanked. Everyone else at my house was tanked as well.

I don't know why it happened but I really do not like getting all that drunk that much anymore. I think its because I realize I can function much better without it, plus the working out is really helping.
 
Ecdysozoa said:
Hello,
I was recommended to this website since my friend said it had a lot of helpful information about addictions and such. Getting right to the point my mother is an alcoholic and has been my whole life, I am 21 years old. She says she wants to quit and has tried multiple times cold turkey but I do not think that is the way of going about it for her. She has also called the dr. about some medication she could get but requires going to the hospital for 3 months before receiving the actual medication. She is a very stubborn woman who does not want therapy since she says this would not help her. Which it might not, I don’t know. She is going through a hard time now with divorce and all and I am very worried about her and her drinking problem once the divorce is actually finalized. Would any of you have any advice of what she could do? Is there any medications she could get that would not require month’s long treatment before hand. Any information would be very helpful thank you!
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hey, I just wanted to reply, so you didn't think that nobody cared.

that is the good news, the bad, is I don't really know what to say or how to help.
it sounds like you are there for her, so that is a huge thing.

but she says she wants to quit, so that awesome! im sure there is someone here that can offer better advice than mine,

but being there for her and being here looking for ideas/suggestions is a step in the right direction.

keep going :)

also be aware of the physical dangers of cold turkey with alcohol(but im sure you already know that)
 
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