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Alcohol & JWH-018

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Zodiakk

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Well let me start by explaining my tolerance, how much jwh/alcohol I had, etc.

I am about 200 LBs, not really fat so much as ripped with a bit of fat covering it at 18 years old.
I am no longer a common user of alcohol, I find that cannabis is a good medecine for my stress that helps me in my goal of becoming completely passivised [not fighting].

Now the other night, I had a four pack of Sparks [gift from my mom to make me feel better about my legal troubles, which are in the legal section if you want to help me) and I have some home-made Spice/K2.
I made it stronger than anyone without tolerance can really handle. 21mg per gram. Very professionally done with a handpumped spray that got every last bit.

[NOTE: The post has been edited, as I was extremely out of it when I OP'd]

I have found that even though JWH-018 isn't very psychedelic at low doses, that it is extremely psychedelic when combined with alcohol.

So I experimented by drinking two Sparks [8%] and smoked a very skimpy bowl of my homemade 21mg/g jwh blend. It was like watching random clips in my mind.

So I tried using alcohol to do a CWE with about 230 morning glory seeds. I also smoked a blunt roach of some mids before riding to some stores with my mom. I live in the country, so I was amazed by the hills and trees. They were so vibrant and colorful, and when I walked indoors I had a strobe like effects; despite having always thought that "vibrant colors" in tripp reports, etc, were just placebo.

However I have found that too much alcohol ruins the fun in psychedelics, and also gives me terrible motion sickness.
 
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I'm having trouble following the focus of your post, are you saying that synthetic cannabinoids synergize with alcohol in a big way? That's what I think I got out of that.
 
A very low dose of JWH-18 would be good for the peak of a party. Mind you i said low dose. In my personal experience with pure JWH-18 and Alcohol at a concert was completely overwhelming. You know those gyros at carnivals and amusement parks, the ones where you get stuck to the wall and cant move. Well i felt like i was on one of those and couldn't walk. It was especially tough sence there were thousands of phish fans trying to cycle out, and there i am taking baby steps because i dont want to loose my balance on gravity. It was not very enjoyable.

Also at a party my friend had drank a good ammount of 151,Malibu, Pineapple Juice mixture(Carabou Lou) and we showed up with some JWH-18 and he tried a little and the same thing happened to me at phish. He took his hit and stood staring at the fire and couldnt move, fell on the ground and started twitching. We thought he had O.D or something, the whole party clears out and my buddie is unresponsive. 15 mins later he wakes up saying that he was spinning so fast that he couldnt move, "As if gravity were put on High".

So be careful with mixing it with Alcohol, it may get you more rocked then your prepared for.
 
Haha I'm really sorry for the quality of this post. As I said, I was trippin on LSA, Sparks and JWH-018

But what I was TRYING to say was that I found that JWH-018 and Alcohol, when used together, are EXTREMELY hallucinogenic. I saw things I felt like I shouldn't be seeing yet, and was sure they would happen in the future.

But Spice is definitely not 60mg per gram. After doing a full on extraction about 4 months ago, I found that there is about 25mg of powder. And some of that could be product from the substrate itself. And this is just the average, which was close each time, of all of the experiments I did with 6 grams of spice gold.
EDIT: Note that this does not even mean the extracted chemical was JWH-018. It could be one of the weaker synthetic cannibinoids.
 
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Help?!?! said:
Haha store brand spice is stronger than 21 mg/g its commonly made with 60 mgs/g.
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Where do you get those figures from? Most people I know can smoke around 0.3g of most blends with a relatively low tolerance, and around 0.5g with a high tolerance for a nice high - at 100mg/g that would be a ridiculous amount.

I have a rock bottom tolerance and I smoked 0.5g of a fairly strong blend, I was very high, but I'd say it was equivalent to maybe 15mg of JWH-081, and 081 is significantly less potent than 018.

Unless you're packing minute bowls you must have a monster tolerance to need blends with 100mg/g, not that I ever recommend blends as it's easier to just get the powder.

I have a few friends who work in headshops, several of which make their own blends, the amount of JWH used seems to very a lot from shop to shop but the usual range is 10-15mg/g on the low end and 20-30mg/g on the high end.

Anyway getting a little off-topic here, but OP although your post was very confusing, I agree that alcohol can mix quite well with psychedelics. On my birthday this year I'd finished most of a bottle of whiskey, but since it was my birthday I wanted to trip, I was tempted to leave it a day as I heard tripping after/while drinking would result in lessened effects - however I dosed anyway, a combo of 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT, but less of each than when I'd previously combined them, and it was by far the most intense of my experiences when I combined 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT, and also by far the lowest of each I've ever used when combining them - the alcohol definitely made it an awesome trip, however I think the alcohol kept my ego very much intact, which was great for that trip but wouldn't be so good for certain more introspective trips.
 
Does anyone else cringe inside every time OP sais "tripp"?

Literally every time he says trip it's actually "tripp".

I don't know, it just grinds my gears if you know what I mean.

My apologies if I am being stupid.
 
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tBirdee said:
Does anyone else cringe inside every time OP sais "tripp"?

Literally every time he says trip it's actually "tripp".

I don't know, it just grinds my gears if you know what I mean.

My apologies if I am being stupid.
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It was a little blunt, but you have a point. Although I am sure it is not in Webster's Dictionary or anything, I have always distinguished "trip" and "tripp" as 2 different words, seeing as my friend's crackhead dad calls him "Tripp".

My apologies if it is annoying, I never thought anything of it.
 
Zodiakk said:
It was a little blunt, but you have a point. Although I am sure it is not in Webster's Dictionary or anything, I have always distinguished "trip" and "tripp" as 2 different words, seeing as my friend's crackhead dad calls him "Tripp".

My apologies if it is annoying, I never thought anything of it.
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lol did anyone realize s/he spells zodiakk with two k's lol :P

j/kk!
 
Jesusgreen said:
Where do you get those figures from? Most people I know can smoke around 0.3g of most blends with a relatively low tolerance, and around 0.5g with a high tolerance for a nice high - at 100mg/g that would be a ridiculous amount.

I have a rock bottom tolerance and I smoked 0.5g of a fairly strong blend, I was very high, but I'd say it was equivalent to maybe 15mg of JWH-081, and 081 is significantly less potent than 018.

Unless you're packing minute bowls you must have a monster tolerance to need blends with 100mg/g, not that I ever recommend blends as it's easier to just get the powder.

I have a few friends who work in headshops, several of which make their own blends, the amount of JWH used seems to very a lot from shop to shop but the usual range is 10-15mg/g on the low end and 20-30mg/g on the high end.
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Thats terrible your friends are ripping people off horribly. First off it doesn't matter what kind of bowl I pack blends are never the same high as pure substance. In my area thats what the blends contain an average of. 10-15 mgs/g is so weak its almost angering i;ve never even heard of it being so low personally. For all the regular smokers who can't smoke a lot of JWH you should still have one hit quit blends.
 
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Thats terrible your friends are ripping people off horribly. First off it doesn't matter what kind of bowl I pack blends are never the same high as pure substance. In my area thats what the blends contain an average of. 10-15 mgs/g is so weak its almost angering i;ve never even heard of it being so low personally. For all the regular smokers who can't smoke a lot of JWH you should still have one hit quit blends.
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I've never bought any, these are people who live in the US mostly not here in Poland. I asked because I was discussing making blends with them, most suggested 25mg as the magic number - the thing with blends is that a LOT of people roll them into joints, you can't sell someone a 100mg/g blend when he's going to roll a 0.5g joint. I don't smoke legal blends because of how much cheaper it is to just buy JWH. The only time I've smoked a blend it was 0.5g for free from a friend who didn't like it because he found the anxiety from that particular blend (073, but somewhat a high amount I guess) too intense.

What I asked was how do you know the blends contain that on average? Things like K2, Spice etc are usually around 20mg/g (at least when it was 018), depends what's in it though, 073 and 081 etc blends need a lot more. With good 018 you only really need 5mg to get really high, 10mg with an extremely high tolerance.

Not trying to argue here but unless you're making the blends yourself, chances are people are just giving you those figures to get you to buy them, though really the blends are never worth buying, acetone, spray bottle, damiana and JWH costs a lot less either way.

--- But yeah I'm getting too off topic here, apologies for that.
 
^No their most definitely not. I have indeed made my own blend which was over 100 mgs/g. The people you know buy them from headshops who buy about a pound or so and then proceed to rip everyone off by 1,000% not to mention like previously stated I don't. Also theres a lot of people who can smoke 018 like monsters. Last but not least when you said you can't sell someone potent shit if they roll joints! Correct! I wouldn't because anyone who attempts to smoke an unknown item like a well known item their stupid and going to end up in the papers.
 
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^No their most definitely not. I have indeed made my own blend which was over 100 mgs/g. The people you know buy them from headshops who buy about a pound or so and then proceed to rip everyone off by 1,000% not to mention like previously stated I don't. Also theres a lot of people who can smoke 018 like monsters. Last but not least when you said you can't sell someone potent shit if they roll joints! Correct! I wouldn't because anyone who attempts to smoke an unknown item like a well known item their stupid and going to end up in the papers.
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Dude do you realize the naphthalene content in 2.5mg is equal to 2 unfiltered cigarettes? If you smoke that much JWH without having to be hospitalized then you must have a huge tolerance and a lot of experience in something that is very cancerous. Get checked.
[Unless you smoke skimpy bowls]

Back on topic:
So last weekend me and a friend had a couple of sparks each, and split 400mg of dxm [the syrup I got tasted putrid, and drinking the syrup straight wasn't even worth the other 400mg we had, I'll have to do an extraction next time]

For the first time, I had realistic hallucinations [first time besides salvia... :'( )
And wow. I was on my bed rolled over with my eyes closed, and it looked exactly like I was facing forward with them open.
 
Zodiakk;8904418 If you smoke that much JWH without having to be hospitalized then you must have a huge tolerance and a lot of experience in something that is very cancerous. [/QUOTE said:
Just because ten million little kids have panic attacks every day and it might have long-term carcinogenic effects (go bitch at every cigarette smoker on Earth, a shitton more of different and toxic carcinogens) does not mean I need a hospital checkup right now because I am a frequent JWH smoker.

I have smoked blends and powder long before this media bullshit came about and in less stupid (it depends how you view it) circles, no supposed deaths or long term health effects (yet) were surfacing even from ridiculous daily doses that I saw. Freakouts yeah, HEY MAN CHECK OUT YOUR HEART YOU ARE DYING GET TO THE HOSPITAL!!
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nopipesdfw said:
Just because ten million little kids have panic attacks every day and it might have long-term carcinogenic effects (go bitch at every cigarette smoker on Earth, a shitton more of different and toxic carcinogens) does not mean I need a hospital checkup right now because I am a frequent JWH smoker.

I have smoked blends and powder long before this media bullshit came about and in less stupid (it depends how you view it) circles, no supposed deaths or long term health effects (yet) were surfacing even from ridiculous daily doses that I saw. Freakouts yeah, HEY MAN CHECK OUT YOUR HEART YOU ARE DYING GET TO THE HOSPITAL!!
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Lol, and I concur.
 
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