Alcohol is deadlier than ecstasy, says Government's drugs adviser

[electronicnotion]

^^^Exactly. More people drink. More people die from alcohol.

many many more people die per 100,000 drinkers then 100,000 e users. and most drinkers drink once or twice a week, usually weekends, many people who use e use e once or twice a week, usually on weekends. At the very least it's safe to say that e is at least several times safer then alcohol, but probably several dozen

 

[deroxor]

I still think alcohol is the shit!!!

 

[skunkweed420]

In my opinion drinkin is way worse than e. A rookie 100 pound female drink's 8 shot's in 2 hrs and she has a very good chance of getting alcohol poisoning. Yet the 100 pd girl could take a hit of e and be fine.

When your drinking, lot's of people do not keep track of how much they drink and don't know when to stop. Know if you eye's are wigglin and jaw a clenchin, your not just going to pop 2 more pills. But if your drunk and seeing double's and having a good time, you keep drinking until it's too much.

Many people get sick off of drinking, so when someone has over drank and puking their friend's aren't just going to know. But if your friend is puking and moaning and really hot, you going to get concerned for the individual.

If someone just passes out cold from drinking, most people say " HAHA that motherfucker's ripped" but if someone passes out when rolling for more than 20 seconds, people will attend to the person passed out.

 

[frizzantik]

it's nice just to see articles like this. they will always have quotes from someone who disagrees but hey, the headline still made it

 

[Gldm]

So how many people have died from ecstasy that wasn't a result of:

A) Over/under hydration.
B) Adulterants in the pills
C) Pre-existing neurological condition e.g. epilepsy
D) Allergic reaction of some form

I'd really like to know. I'm serious. Is it thousands? Hundreds? Tens? What percentage of users? What probability per dose? What's the LD50 for MDMA and MDA?

 

[fatallyflawed]

alright lets remember this...

Alcohol IS legal therfore availible for purchase at NE given time (with exception of those F'ing blue laws depending on US state) Also consider that X is a very hard drug to find and if found not always a good pill.

Enter legalization of X. FDA regulates contents for a cleaner pill ( yes, no more caffine pill) however a tamed concentrate MDMA/MDA so for those of us in illegal usage probably have 2 up the dose to get a good high.

Plus now its legal so more users for the statistics will be there ( the 10 to 12,000 will probably be more like 300ish to 12,000) its all based on the user really!

In point I feel alcohol or X deaths r user blamed. I luv me some x but I educated my self a bit to know about it and dehydration,depression,blah blah blah...... same w/ alcohol TO MUCH AND IMPROPER USE WILL (scheduled death or not) DEFINETLY KILL U !

go dallas cowboys!

 

[billbuilds]

also it would be impossible to ban alcahol due to the fact that u can make it from yeast and sugar in a milk bottle

 

[qwedsa]

^the same line of reasoning would say it's impossible to ban marijuana, other plants, and meth

 

[specialrelativity]

I just choose to abstain from "cop" drugs, personally. That includes alcohol, cigarettes, and caffeine(coffee, specifically). Resonance, you know, but to each their own*smirk*.

 

[Gary Gnu]

^the same line of reasoning would say it's impossible to ban marijuana, other plants, and meth

And it is... yet the drug warriors keep up the schrade.

Of course, booze is easier to make (on a basic level) than meth, and pot doesn't grow everywhere. Mute point though.

 

[Smyth]

It's still surprising that ecstasy is so safe when we are talking about a banned drug available through illicit channels.

Still while xtc might serve some positive function in post traumatic stress disorder and the like, or just to take in night clubs, however it is unlikely to serve a positive function from a medicinal stand-point eg treatment of depression. Its recreational capacity though far exceeds alcohol.

 

[Free Radical]

OMG OMG! Really ? In Other news: Fire is Hot and Sky is Blue!

 

[Trey]

It's still surprising that ecstasy is so safe when we are talking about a banned drug available through illicit channels.

Still while xtc might serve some positive function in post traumatic stress disorder and the like, or just to take in night clubs, however it is unlikely to serve a positive function from a medicinal stand-point eg treatment of depression. Its recreational capacity though far exceeds alcohol.

so what would someone drink for? is alcohol a medicinal drug?

 

[clever name]

compare 12,200 to 33

there are more than 370 times as many alcohol drinkers as ecstasy users?

proper

 

[pacdan]

Taking pills actually got me off alcahol, which for me was good because it was really doing some damage to me.
I have never thrown up on a pill and i dont get depressed or come down nears as bad as what a bad hangover. Funny thing is my life has become quite successful since not drinking(still have a social beer though ) and i know when i have had enough flips for the night.
Makes you wonder why alcahol is so readily available and extacy is not...ignorance or is it because they make so much $$ from tax's on alcahol lol

 

[darkpanda]

a year or so ago my roommate gave me a statistic he looked up...not completely sure of it's accuracy, but i thought it was hilarious-more people died in fishing accidents (i think in 2004) than died from ecstasy. anyways, the legal consequences of possessing or using any drug vs alcohol (another drug) are just obscene.

 

[Smyth]

Well alot of promising academics drink heavily whereas academics taking xtc often times have such mind blowing experiences that their grades begin to suffer. I dont know how someones performance at work might be affected since it would be less easily monitored.

 

[knight_marshall]

"Ecstasy kills at random and there is a lot of cumulative harm," said David Raynes from the National Drugs Prevention Alliance. "Although there is a lot of harm from alcohol, very few people just die from drinking alcohol, but they do die from taking E. If the Government does downgrade E, then it sends a signal that it's less harmful than it was before."

This whole statement is completely rediculous... first of all, xtc kills at random... lets just think about that... xtc has a consciousness and randomly chooses a victim? The only reason it would appear random is from a lack of understanding... ie research.

second, very few people die from drinking alcohol... well not if you count alcohol related car accidents. And I'm sure that many of those E related deaths also involved alcohol.

third... 'if the gov't does downgrade'... how could a political position alter a physical matter. All the downgrade would do would be prove that the gov't has researched the drug.

 

[SmC]

"Ecstasy kills at random and there is a lot of cumulative harm," said David Raynes from the National Drugs Prevention Alliance. "Although there is a lot of harm from alcohol, very few people just die from drinking alcohol, but they do die from taking E. If the Government does downgrade E, then it sends a signal that it's less harmful than it was before."

This whole statement is completely rediculous... first of all, xtc kills at random... lets just think about that... xtc has a consciousness and randomly chooses a victim? The only reason it would appear random is from a lack of understanding... ie research.

I agree with this part of your post.'Kills at random' is just a bullshit statement that any hater of drugs is going to use.But you might as well say 'alcohol kills at random', if they're going down that path.

 

[rm-rf]

yes, the headline is what is important. people need to read things like this, and then start questioning authority, and asking them why such harmful products are legal and mass marketed, while less harmful intoxicants remain illegal and carry severe punishments...