Alcohol Forum? - Split from Heads Up thread

[Blowmonkey]

Now, not much can go wrong with growing weed (your plants may die, but over all, the set-up of your plants isnt going to harm or kill you).

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about here.

 

[DarthMom]

I have been pretty open on here about my alcoholism, and i for one would be very interested in an alcohol forum. there are so many facets that it could cover, as much as the cannabis forum.

from usage/home brew discussions to the dark side of it.

there is a plethora of information out there that i have tried to comb through and would appreciate a forum to focus on it. i am pretty interested in the reasons some of us are prone to addiction with this, when we have skated through heavy recreational daily use of other highly addictive substances with no problems.

i do believe it would be a busy forum. and i am more than willing and able to volunteer to mod this, if there is a mod shortage, as blowmonkey said....though i doubt that, many people are usually up for the task, it has seemed in the past.

 

[Blowmonkey]

if there is a mod shortage, as blowmonkey said....

I haven't said that anywhere.

 

[saucy2040]

ive always thought of an opiate forum. jus seems like its a pretty big topic here, and all the questions go to other drugs, instead of a specific section for opiates.

 

[DarthMom]

I haven't said that anywhere.

guess i misunderstood you. i didn't exactly read the post carefully.
no biggie.

 

[panic in paradise]

as KB said homebrewing discussion should be left out of an alcohol forum because of the dangers involved, it seems that things like ingerdeint lists would be great, but nothing further then general descriptions. there is plenty of extraction discussion here, but no manufacturing information, many meth recipes are terribly simple, much more so then different methods of wine, beer, and spirit production.

with alcohol there is a deep darkside and i dont think it would take much from TDS but perhaps lighten the load there a bit, and posters might feel more comfortable discussing their issues with 'drink' in a forum where hopefully the majority of viewers would be those who understand how alcohol is for some.

 

[frizzantik]

A discussion like this couldnt be held in another forum

Whats wrong with Other Drugs or perhaps Advanced Drug Discussion? There's already a handful of alcohol specific threads in OD... Perhaps something ought to be included in the Other Drugs guidelines explicitly stating alcohol topics are accepted and welcomed in OD?

 

[Blowmonkey]

as KB said homebrewing discussion should be left out of an alcohol forum because of the dangers involved

He actually said the exact opposite:

A forum where one could discuss this could help people.

 

[KemicalBurn]

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about here.

Agreed.

However my lack of knowledge of weed or that i feel its a relatively harmless drug doesnt mean harm cant be reduced.

Remember, i'm not trying to devalidate the existence of the Cannabis forum, merely trying to draw tangible lines between it and the proposal of the Alcohol forum as i feel they would be similar in approach to HR.

Its pretty damn obvious that alcohol is probably the drug with the most wide-spread use on Bluelight, and yet we keep a straight face and say "go somewhere else on the internet" or "use the existing forums" when clearly discussion held in such forums would go without proper attention and direction.

 

[guineaPig]

Its pretty damn obvious that alcohol is probably the drug with the most wide-spread use on Bluelight, and yet we keep a straight face and say "go somewhere else on the internet" or "use the existing forums" when clearly discussion held in such forums would go without proper attention and direction.

couldnt have said it better in terms of it being overlooked. i've gotten a good reaction in the thread i made in TDS and that says to me that there is a bigger problem than we've allowed ourselves to realize.
IF there was an alcohol forum, the guidelines would have to be pretty well thought out. is it a place to get help? is it for general alcohol discussion? a fine line would have to be drawn and the moderation would have to be pretty good.
imagine a bunch of drunks having their own place to go. it could be awesome or it could be all out insanity...

 

[zephyr]

Maybe the mods/admin should discuss this after a few drinks. Ideas seem so much clearer after a bottle of champers.

 

[malfunkshun]

i think there should be an alcohol forum

 

[melange]

alcohol forum

lets vote on it?


I turned 21 today, and the tarantula is starting to take hold. pardon me


but still, I'd like to see one

just a thought

 

[Chaos Butterfly]

The correct forum for any new forum requests, is the support forum...

This has been discussed previously, but I'll shift it over to support for an "official" response...

 

[delta_9]

happy bday, but this has been discussed before and the short answer is, there just isn't much good that can come of an alcohol forum/

 

[axl blaze]

the question is not really whether much good can come out of an alcohol forum; but actually, do we need it? in my opinion the answer is we do not need it. any alcohol topics that have to do with the aspect of chemisty behind the drug alcohol (for example thujone content, wormwood abstraction, or the moleculear synergy of alcohol and other drugs) are placed in Other Drugs. facets of the drinking culture are covered in Drug Culture (for example: what is your favorite shot of liqour?).

I think those two very different forums cover alcohol as well as it needs to be. and please don't accuse me of alcohol prejudice, I have to be easily one of the biggest drinkers on BL. we already cover alcohol entirely - why? do you think otherwise?

 

[jrocc]

im for alcohol forum that would be koo

 

[CloudyHazeD]

I think a separate area would be useful.

I'm sure there are enough people about who are brewing beer or wine or distilling. Also, I bet, other all around alcohol affectionados could get behind the idea.

Maybe just have it as a sub forum in OD?

 

[axl blaze]

I'm sure there are enough people about who are brewing beer or wine or distilling. Also, I bet, other all around alcohol affectionados could get behind the idea.

Maybe just have it as a sub forum in OD?

actually, you would be surprised at how many people DON'T distill or brew beer anymore. in the United States, it is a "lost art." I only have distilling experience because my Macedonian relatives constantly would distill wine and whiskey in a barrel. in America, why would you go through the effort of creating your own special brew when you can just walk right up to a micro-brewery. instant gratification.

a sub-forum is a good suggestion. I don't know what I feel about sub-forums though. if you remember when NEMD was a sub-forum, it just looked so tagged along.

the question is, again: do you feel like alcohol threads somehow derail threads about other drugs in OD? there aren't even a lot of alcohol threads in OD to begin with. if you build they will not come.

 

[CloudyHazeD]

The more I think about it, the more it seems pointless.

I guess any particular question could be covered in Other Drugs forum and a sub forum would seem out of place and spurred.

Honestly, if I were creating and rearranging things here, I feel simply adding a Stimulant forum and then Opiate forum would better compliment the Ecstasy forum, Cannabis forum, Steroid forum and Psychedelic Drugs forum.

That would leave the Other drugs forum to just cover everything else and not be swamped with stimulant and opiate queries.