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AL-LAD vs LSZ which do you recommend?

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Hi guys,

So next week im going to a great festival and planned on taking either AL-LAD or LSZ . The thing is I haven;t tried either, I just dont wanna eat 25B again because it gives me negative effects nearly every time i take it.

I'm a very experienced tripper with dozens of trip in my life on variety of substances.

Will a 150ug blotter give me some sort of visuals? How does the potency of these two compounds compare to real LSD.

thanx
 
Is this a what should I take thread?

Sorry, even if it were legal to answer your question, it would still be impossible. Psychedelics are too unpredictable & too reliant on personal brain chemistry & tolerance to narrow down.

My advice would be to try each compound on their own, in a calm quiet enviroment, & then decide which if any is to be used at a festival. I personally would not take a new psychedelic in public without being fully apraised of it's effects.
 
I wonder if you at least skimmed through the respective Big&Dandies? If not, I'd recommend that, I'm pretty sure you'd make a decision easily after reading them.

FWIW, AL-LAD is much more consistent in providing a positive psychedelic experience. 150ug of AL-LAD will give you some visuals, but chances are you're going to feel that you could have dosed higher - AL-LAD feels just about as benign as it gets, and at 150ug, it's definitely nowhere near overwhelming, in my experience.

IMO 300ug is a perfect "recreational" dose of AL-LAD - intense enough that you're going to enjoy yourself thoroughly, and I'd be very surprised if you ran into any complications at this dose.

As for comparison to LSD - at lower doses, I would say that 150ug of AL-LAD is about on par with a standard LSD blotter. Let's assume that's around 100ug or so.

At higher doses, the comparisons don't work very well, because 600ug of AL-LAD is a lot different than an equivalent dose of LSD. The character of the visuals and the headspace is...well, different. It's also easier to handle psychologically - while it does get pretty confusing, it never put me into a pseudo-psychotic headspace the way LSD is so happy to mischeviously do.

Compared to LSD, though, AL-LAD is a decidedly shorter trip. The peak really only lasts for 4-5 hours. At the 7th hour, you may very well find yourself in ++ territory, even after taking a high dose.

Well, that's that. You'll notice I haven't mentioned LSZ. That's a strange one, and it's not as "recommendable" as AL-LAD. I had a strangely dysphoric experience with it at 450ug, and didn't dare to go higher. In terms of potency, it's weaker than AL-LAD and LSD.
 
al-lad is the more recreational&visual of the two, 150ug should give some visuals, 300ug will give more but you may have problems functioning during the peak (reports vary widely on this)
i could talk and move around normally on 300ug, but there are reports of people finding it difficult
 
If I had to attend 100 festivals in a row on one of these two RCs, I'd choose AL-LAD over LSZ 100 times. I personally don't experience visuals (other than very insignificant smoke and haze type stuff) at 150 mcg. But, I personally would be too inebriated or incapacitated at 300 mcg to enjoy a festival. I'd probably want to wander off and just be by myself. All of which begs the question: are either of these RCs really right for next week? Neither would be my first choice.
 
if you are an experienced tripper, you should know what to take, and also that the internet cant decide for you. its best to trip on these novel chemicals alone/at home first, to see how you react to them, and only then take them out for a ride outside at a festival.

personally id go for lsz, sice i find that one to be the more recreational less visual of the two, and i wouldnt want a full on trip in a festival setting.
 
I wouldn't take al-lad for the first time around strangers. Unless you dose LOW, like 150 tops. I took 300mics and I was running round naked with my underpants on my head. I could barely see to the other side of the room for the visuals.
 
^^+1 (not the naked and underpants bit), but the first time I took Al, I took 150ug in a crowded and hot pub around non-drug taking friends, and I ended up freaking out and ending up in an ambulance with a heart rate of 180, and losing my shit! Of course, I have taken Al since, and it has been nothing but a wonderful and gentle experience.
 
SilentRoller said:
the first time I took Al, I took 150ug in a crowded and hot pub around non-drug taking friends, and I ended up freaking out and ending up in an ambulance with a heart rate of 180, and losing my shit!
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Yikes! That's got to be the first I've heard that in connection with AL-LAD ... at any dose.
 
I've always found 150ug to be pretty non crazy and controlable, but different people are affected differently by the same drugs or perhaps the blotters were overdosed or you got something else... who really knows
 
Sorry, no "what should I take?" threads, just use the Big & Dandy's for both compounds as well as some AL-LAD vs. LSZ thread that is lingering to figure out for yourself what to do.
 
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