Advice on using speed

[Matt123]

Hey,

me and a friend are thinking of snorting some speed.

My friend has some experience with MDMA. I have a little experience with MDMA, Cocaine and Dextroamphetamine (prescribed, orally).

We're thinking of using from 21.00 till about 06.00.

I have the following questions:

- Will this be somewhat like Dextroamphetmine ?
- Will I be less affected since im on a weekly dose of Dextroamphetamine ?
- Can I combine with some beers ?
- What is a good amount for 2 noob users to get thru the night (21.00 till 06.00)?
- Is there a risk of anxiety/panic (or anything else not pleasant) ?
- Am I going to be able to sleep a little afterwards ?
- How long will the hangover last ? (I have 2 days free of responsibilities after using)

Thx in advance !

 

[Black]

since you're in europe: speed = amphetamine
and amphetamine is dextroamphetamine+levoamphetamine. the latter is more or less inactive (well, not quite, but its much weaker, so you'll basically feel the dextroamphetamine)

so if you have access to pharmaceutical grade dextroamphetamine, why not stick to that. you'll have the same effects (again, not quite, but it's supposed to be a little better with less side effects if you notice any difference at all) and know that you have good quality, which is a rare thing for street speed.

so to answer your questions:
-yes, because it is dextroamphetamine.
-yes.
-absolutely, just make sure you don't drink too more alcohol than usual. the speed partly negates the effects of alcohol, making you feel less drunk. the good thing is that the unpleasant effects of alcohol are almost eliminated while the pleasant ones can still be felt at the right dose, making it a very popular combo.
-typically, if you have more or less "good" quality (the stuff i had 10 years ago. it's imho very hard to find good speed nowadays where i live), one thin 3-4cm line whenever you feel like it, which would likely be like every 2-3 hours with no tolerance. probably much less if you decide to snort your pharmaceutical grade stuff (but you'd also have to factor in the copious amount of filler they put into tabs).
-yes, but it's absolutely nothing compared to coke ime.
-when i started out, i could always sleep 4h after the last line. when you have some tolerance and/or experience with going to sleep after a night out on speed the time you can fall asleep much quicker.
-ime, there isn't really a hangover that's worse than what you'd have when you dance a lot sober if you don't overdo it. some people might disagree, but either way, you're going to be tired the next day and fine the day afterwards.

 

[Matt123]

So youre saying snorting street speed will be the same as taking my dexies orally ?

I that case...what about snorting dexies... ? Or is that a bad idea all together ?

Also, when snorting its not like cocaine every half an hour ?

 

[BlueBull]

Speed is not an empathogen so I'll move your post to the relevant subforum. You'll get a better response there.

Street speed when it's not adulterated is indeed more or less the same than pharmaceutical amphetamines. By the way, pharmaceutical amphetamines could also be a mixture of dextroamphetamine+levoamphetamine, adderall is an example. Street speed is usually of course notoriously more impure compared to pharmaceutical amphetamines

MED>>OD

 

[Matt123]

The container reads: Dextroamphetamine-Sulfate 5mg. There's no brand name...its just in a standard pharmacy bottle thingy.

I take 15 mg within an hour (orally) and have a pretty descent high on it.

I was just thinking street speed would be the same experience only 10 times more potent

Sorry for the wrong subforum.

So what about giving my friend my dexies to snort... ?

 

[chantarr]

have plenty of water around and i dont recommend being around anyone u know that you dont want to know ur using drugs cuz with speed i found u cant help but be so sped up cant hide it.

 

[Black]

The container reads: Dextroamphetamine-Sulfate 5mg. There's no brand name...its just in a standard pharmacy bottle thingy.

I take 15 mg within an hour (orally) and have a pretty descent high on it.

I was just thinking street speed would be the same experience only 10 times more potent

Sorry for the wrong subforum.

So what about giving my friend my dexies to snort... ?

don't expect something radically different from snorting. it is different and gives you more of a rush, so i find it more pleasurable than taking it orally, but (along with needing a lower dose) it also lasts a bit shorter obviously.

sadly, street speed is nowhere near 10 times as potent . "good" purity would probably be around 30% with the bad stuff being <10% (or inactive outright. i cannot count the number of times i have gotten pure lactose powder or some white powder with only a little caffeine). but even that would just be fine if it wasn't adulterated so often. the most common cut is caffeine (which isn't that bad), but there's also a lot of stuff cut with ephedrine (which gives you a lot more physical side effects). over here there have also been some pretty scary test results with some batches containing 4-methyl-amphetamine, which should give more mdma-like effects, but it looks like that chemical is pretty neurotoxic and should really be avoided. without proper testing (available in some european countries) you never know what's inside

if you have some tablets to spare, you can of course give your friend some dexies. but depending on the makeup and size of the tabs it might be a lot of powder to snort. if that's the case you could either do some sort of wash/extraction if you're a bit into chemistry or you could simply stick to taking them orally.

 

[mostly-human]

I was just thinking street speed would be the same experience only 10 times more potent

*THAT* would be meth-amphetamine.

In Australia, we don't really have street amphetamine, essentially, all of our speed is meth. But we have "speed" which is generally very impure, salt. And we have 'ice' which is crystal meth.

But yeah, sounds like you're just taking adulterated crap when you have the real thing.

Meth is a whole other ball game and IS much more potent, not that I'm suggesting you take meth.

 

[OlahAcaciah]

So youre saying snorting street speed will be the same as taking my dexies orally ?

I that case...what about snorting dexies... ? Or is that a bad idea all together ?

Also, when snorting its not like cocaine every half an hour ?

The frequency should be less when redosing speed. Just make sure you go slow and steady till you hit the desired effects.

Unlike coke, if you go overboard its got a much longer duration therefore you've signed up for quite a long experience in comparison.

 

[DrGreenthumb]

The container reads: Dextroamphetamine-Sulfate 5mg. There's no brand name...its just in a standard pharmacy bottle thingy.

I take 15 mg within an hour (orally) and have a pretty descent high on it.

I was just thinking street speed would be the same experience only 10 times more potent

Sorry for the wrong subforum.

So what about giving my friend my dexies to snort... ?

Street speed is usually less potent, even a good synth & uncut it'll not be as strong as your pharma grade dex. Often it'll be a bad synth, impure & cut with something to bulk it out. The only reason people get higher off street speed is they take more than 15mg of it.

Snorting isn't really worth the sinus damage, imo. It works orally, just not such an immediate rush.

 

[Matt123]

Thx for the info guys.

I never had a problem taking them orally but my friend says he doesnt feel anything whenever he takes them with me, hence the snorting questions

 

[tunesey]

in the UK we tend to get base which is a wet smelly powder that smells a bit like cat piss I would always just put a gram in a glass of water and swill it round and drink fuck snorting that stuff. the buzz lasts all night starting with what I call the velvet glove feeling coming up the back of your neck then you feel confident have high energy with the ability to talk to anybody. You can drink all night on the stuff without getting pissed.IMHO much better than coke I found it over rated and pricey when you compare the two. Always have some benzos hand for comedowns as I have stayed awake for 2 nights on 1 gram of the stuff.

I am going back a while I cant say what the billy is like nowadays as I no longer take it but when I did use it what comes up must come down and the comedowns were awful.

 

[Matt123]

Thanks for all the info guys !

 

[BlueBull]

I would always just put a gram in a glass of water and swill it round and drink fuck snorting that stuff.
...
You can drink all night on the stuff without getting pissed

Problem with this is that speed tends to be very caustic. Meaning it's an aggressive chemical that will eat away at your teeth over time. It won't be that bad if you only do speed very occasionally, but if you do this frequently or long enough it will wreak havoc on your teeth. I know a guy that straight up eats his speed, puts it in his mouth, lets it sit buccally for a while (why, I don't know) and swallows it, and after a few years of doing that his teeth look absolutely horrible, a lot worse than other speed users that have snorted the stuff in equal quantities over the same period of time

 

[tunesey]

Problem with this is that speed tends to be very caustic. Meaning it's an aggressive chemical that will eat away at your teeth over time. It won't be that bad if you only do speed very occasionally, but if you do this frequently or long enough it will wreak havoc on your teeth. I know a guy that straight up eats his speed, puts it in his mouth, lets it sit buccally for a while (why, I don't know) and swallows it, and after a few years of doing that his teeth look absolutely horrible, a lot worse than other speed users that have snorted the stuff in equal quantities over the same period of time

thanks BlueBull I know it rots you teeth a bit like meth does but I only used it weekends for raving and that was 20+ years ago my teeth are fine apart from the odd filling. Thanks for the concearn though mate