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Advice on have a good safe Methoxetamine (3-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE) trip?

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TheProdigalSon

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Hello bluelight, long time lurker here. But this will be my time posting.

I recently came across some Methoxetamine. I had not heard much about it, so I started doing some research. I have experience with other drugs like LSD, mushrooms and MDMA. I also had a little fling with DXM a long time ago in highschool. I have heard that this is a dissociative drug similar to Ketamine, which I have never personally tried.

I have searched on the forums, but I couldn't find a direct answer to my question. It's also possible I may be retarded and just not used the correct search terms. Sorry if I already messed up on my first post.

Anyway, my question is this. I have 1g of what is supposed to be an extremely good batch. The source of that information has always been reliable in the past, so I am enclined to believe it could be true. If this is the case, I was planning on starting with a smaller dose and then just going from there. I do wish to have a pretty intense trip, when tripping on other drugs in the past I have always been able to let it take me and avoid bad trips. From my experience this seems directly related to how well I prepare myself before hand, physically and mentally that is. This weekend I was thinking about giving it a try. I am not currently feeling depressed about anything I can think of. So other than that, what should I do to prepare before hand? Like keeping a glass of water near my bed for example, or cut on some soothing background music.

I am also a little confused as far as dosing goes. I was going to try maybe 5-10mg at first to make sure I don't have some kind of allergic reaction. I have access and will be using a .001 scale as well. But how long should I wait before upping my dose to something more substantial? Since I have no idea what the peak feels like. When re-dosing, would it be safe to take another 40mg or so? I would like to aim for right around the level I would start to experience the "k-holes" if possible. But if you guys think that's a terribly bad decision I would take your advice. Well, that about sums it up, anyone have any advice for me as far as dosing and how long before I can safely re-dose? And what things if any are good ways to prep for a nice long trip.

And again, sorry if this has been answered I have just read so many different dosages all over it's hard to get a straight forward answer.

Thanks guys
 
I don't have a huge amount of experience with MXE so my advice here might not be the best. But: for allergy tests, what I always do is lick the end of a paperclip or staple, stick it into your sample, then take it out and dab the residue on the paperclip/staple to your tongue. That will basically always get you less than a milligram of substance so you shouldn't have to worry about effects kicking in. Not sure how long it should take to reveal any allergic reaction, but by 24 hours from the allergy test, if nothing's happened, you should be safe. For my actual first time, I tried 25 mg insufflated and worked up from there. Everyone I know says titrate your doses up slowly and don't redose more than once in a session.
 
bindingaffinity said:
I don't have a huge amount of experience with MXE so my advice here might not be the best. But: for allergy tests, what I always do is lick the end of a paperclip or staple, stick it into your sample, then take it out and dab the residue on the paperclip/staple to your tongue. That will basically always get you less than a milligram of substance so you shouldn't have to worry about effects kicking in. Not sure how long it should take to reveal any allergic reaction, but by 24 hours from the allergy test, if nothing's happened, you should be safe. For my actual first time, I tried 25 mg insufflated and worked up from there. Everyone I know says titrate your doses up slowly and don't redose more than once in a session.
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Thanks for the tip about the paper clip; I will keep that in mind. I was also unaware that I should refrain from re-dosing more than once during a trip.
 
Start with an allergy test. Wait 45 minutes.

Start small. Take in a safe, comfortable environment. Dose by taking tiny bumps, spaced apart by at least 20 to 25 minutes.
 
TheProdigalSon said:
Any recommendations on a safe bump size mg wise?
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Going on the basis that it's a new batch, and you are unsure of potency...

I'd recommend starting with 10 - 20mg bumps at a time, waiting at least 20 to 25 minute in between redosing.

MXE is a substance you do not want to do too much of. It can quickly overwhelm you, and will put you into a bad trip.

Simply start small. Personally, I think 20mg bumps at a time is the sweet spot.
 
J.Wallace said:
Going on the basis that it's a new batch, and you are unsure of potency...

I'd recommend starting with 10 - 20mg bumps at a time, waiting at least 20 to 25 minute in between redosing.

MXE is a substance you do not want to do too much of. It can quickly overwhelm you, and will put you into a bad trip.

Simply start small. Personally, I think 20mg bumps at a time is the sweet spot.
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Awesome, thank you for the advice. I think I might start with 10, get a feel for how it comes on, then maybe increase it with 20mg bumps afterwards like you suggested. So from your experience, if I do it like this do you think if I get to 70mg total that would be a good stopping point? I don't want to end up overwhelming myself on my first experience with MXE. Oh, one more thing...I won't have a sitter, do you think this would be an extremely unwise decision?

In the past whenever I have done psychedelics, I normally do not need a sitter. I had one the first few time but after that very rarely did I ever find myself needing one. In fact normally having someone there that is sober makes me uncomfortable and the trip is not as fulfilling. If I dont have one, I normally lock my windows and my doors, shut off my phone and hide it somewhere so I wont easily find it while under the influence, then I just lay in my bed with the television on or some music. I don't have any friends that are really into tripping and I normally only get the urge to do so once or twice a year. So finding a friend that wants to come over and watch me trip can be...difficult.
 
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TheProdigalSon said:
Awesome, thank you for the advice. I think I might start with 10, get a feel for how it comes on, then maybe increase it with 20mg bumps afterwards like you suggested. So from your experience, if I do it like this do you think if I get to 70mg total that would be a good stopping point? I don't want to end up overwhelming myself on my first experience with MXE. Oh, one more thing...I won't have a sitter, do you think this would be an extremely unwise decision?

In the past whenever I have done psychedelics, I normally do not need a sitter. I had one the first few time but after that very rarely did I ever find myself needing one. In fact normally having someone there that is sober makes me uncomfortable and the trip is not a fulfilling. If I dont have one, I normally lock my windows and my doors and shut off my phone and hide it somewhere so I wont easily find it while under the influence, then I just lay in my bed with the television on or some music. I don't have any friends that are really into tripping and I normally only get the urge to do so once or twice a year. So finding a friend that wants to come over and watch me trip can be...difficult.
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If you've experienced any form of "Tripping" before, and know how to properly handle it when alone, you will be perfectly fine.

Just remember to start small. 70mg sounds like a good stopping point. Of course, it all depends on the potency of you're batch.

It's best to proceed with caution, so consider the batch pure until you are familiar with it. I find taking MXE alone to be the best way to get the most out of it. Personally, if things become overwhelming, which don't be surprised if they do, simply turn on some music and lay down.

Remember to constantly drink water, and focus on you're breathing. Staying hydrated is very important.
 
J.Wallace said:
If you've experienced any form of "Tripping" before, and know how to properly handle it when alone, you will be perfectly fine.

Just remember to start small. 70mg sounds like a good stopping point. Of course, it all depends on the potency of you're batch.

It's best to proceed with caution, so consider the batch pure until you are familiar with it. I find taking MXE alone to be the best way to get the most out of it. Personally, if things become overwhelming, which don't be surprised if they do, simply turn on some music and lay down.

Remember to constantly drink water, and focus on you're breathing. Staying hydrated is very important.
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Thanks again for the help J Wallace. I really appreciate it. After reading my post there was one thing I forgot
to ask, would you recommend sublingual or Insufflation? I am really not a big fan of needles.
 
iv>im>plugged>sublingual>oral>nasal

and i would wait at least 40 minutes before redosing. mxe takes a while to fully kick in.

and like wallace said, make sure to stay hydrated.
this will give you a nice comedown and afterglow instead of a hangover and headaches.
 
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Personally, I've never tried anything besides Nasal.

Nasal seems to produce a more speedy, mind fuck kind of a high. I'm gonna be trying new ROA's soon though, particularly oral.
 
Try oral. It has always been quite a bit stronger that way, IME. Personally, I find sniffing less mind-fucky.
 
You don't want to try to reach k-hole sized inebriation settings because MXE lasts a lot longer than k and is much stronger overall. In fact, if you were to reach k-hole sized events, MXE would rather make you blackout catatonically. I took too much over a year ago and blacked out for nearly 9 hours. I was expecting it to hit as fast as ketamine, but it took a lot longer. In sum, my advice is to eat 30 to 45 mg of methoxetamine either orally, sublingually, or intranasally all at once and have someone around to sit you through your trip. Confusion is a common side effects of mxe.
 
i find that music needs to be on all the time while tripping on mxe, i find you just get lost in a cycle of confusion without it, especially if your on your own. The only true way to experience this drug IMO is to rack out a nice sized line, press play on a playlist of some nice soothing beats, lay back, close my eyes and fly away :)

oh if your a cannabis smoker, have a joint pre rolled for when you start coming down/round off the MXE, you literally get high as kite
 
Just to add to what people have already said, I'd recommend you make your allergy test dose ~1mg, rather than 5-10mg, then wait a full day if possible before you take a regular dose. 5-10mg of MXE is enough to produce effects, and so if you are particularly intolerant in any way or allergic this may be dangerous.

1mg is also a good starting point because of possibly mix ups that sometimes happen with vendors, even if you were sent some of the most potent chemicals around 1mg should not cause you any serious harm.
 
I've had several not so fun experiences with MXE so I thought I'd share.

MXE is a mischievous little devil.

The advice above is excellent and more than sound. However, I would bump at doses significantly lower than 20mg. As noted, MXE is active at between 5 and 10mg. I think I'm fairly sensitive to the stuff and doses of less than 5mg have had an effect. Moreover, I'd wait quite a bit longer than 20 - 25 minutes before redosing. If you take it nasally, you'll get an initial feeling straight from the off, then you'll start to come up - slowly. Once the initial feeling has warn off, make sure you allow the substance to do its work before bumping. The effects build cumulatively. Not spacing bumps sufficiently can lead to things getting overpowering before you realise.

Of course, all my advice is subjective and related purely to personal experience. My friends love this stuff. As do significant numbers on BL. Go and easy and have fun.
 
Yeah for an allergy test all you need is a mg or so. Like others said, I would start small and work your way up, no need to try and m-hole without any prior experience. IME, I never got any sort of anxiety, ever, from MXE, but YMMV. I've heard of people getting overwhelmed by doing too much their first time. It's good you have a scale, I'd say start with a 20-30 mg bump and redose if necessary. (or take it orally, whatever you want)
 
I was in the same boat as you when i first got my hands on some mxe.

Start with 5-10mg and redose equal amounts in intervals until you feel like you're in the right place.
I've found it quite easy to get carried away once you start getting higher in dosage so maybe choose how much you're going to do and stick to it.

My brother came over a few months back and i let him do 20mg to see what it was like and then we smoked some cannabis and he said he felt amazing and higher than he had ever been (no previous use of anything but cannabis).

I also find mxe is a very nice feeling drug. The only negative effects i have ever felt was that electronic music felt annoying up around 70mg.
I like to do 10-20mg whenever i do other psys as it has a nice warm cosy feeling and usually kills any anxiety/apprehension i am having about said psy at the time.

So start low and build your way up.
 
As you can see people are suggesting very different dosages. I have noticed the required dose differs a lot per person; I always take 2 or 3 40mg bumps, so when some friends wanted to try it too I gave them all one bump of 40mg. For most this went well, but for 2 guys this was obviously too much. So keep in mind your required dosage may be a lot lower or higher than other's!

As long as you start low and work your way up, you should be fine. However you should know that MXE has a way of creeping up on you: it kicks in pretty quickly, but then slowly increases in strength over half an hour or so (that''s a very rough estimate). So don't redose too quickly!

This all sounds very serious, but I've had many good experiences with MXE. Enjoy yourself!
 
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