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Advice for first time on molly

Esperighanto said:
I weigh ~220 lbs (~100kg) and have consistently found doses as low as 30-60mg to be fascinatingly empathogenic, though not quite as face meltingly awe inspiring as 125-175mg doses, so I suspect that subjective variance is a big factor here. As far as amphetamine tolerance goes, 600mg of pharma Adderall in approximately 36 hours has zero physical side effects and the only detrimental cognitive side effect is an almost complete inability to feel emotions once it wears off, until I sleep to recover from the insane monoamine depletion I inflicted upon myself.

As a note for future readers, 600mg of Adderall in 36 hours was something I was doing due to tolerance and profoundly reckless stupidity. Nowadays as a more knowledgeable person who cares more about self-preservation, I cap myself at 100mg of amphetamine in a day and never use it more than twice weekly.
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MDMA was my first stim drug, to this day I am unable to be sure if it even was MDMA as we took WAY too much for every experience except our very first.
I mean we took 200mg+200mg 30 minutes later my first proper roll, in retrospective it was massively reckless.

But to the point, the very first time I took just 60mg and did not feel much apart from a stoned sedation, no stim effects at all.
So at least for some people, there is a threshold dose that is probably somewhere around 90 to 120mg for most, and you only experience full effects when going above that.
 
fairnymph said:
Needing 100+mg is the norm that’s why that is the standard minimum threshold dose, regardless of body weight, for a proper roll. It’s unusual to be able to get a full effect from a dose substantially lower.
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The smallest person I saw rolling for the first time was a 36kg, 24yo woman, that had never tried any drug except for small amounts of alcohol and a few puffs of cannabis here and there.
She took 130mg of MDMA crystals and while she experienced a decent roll she wasn't overwhelmed by any means.

The MDMA had been acetone washed and recrystallised after we got it, and was considered as good as it gets by any of the other experienced people that took it.
 
As far as doing it alone in your room, I would not. Mdma was first drug where I pushed it , doing it about thirty nights in six months from age nineteen to twenty. Had to stop bc of abuse, as can see, and simply magic was gone. Thirteen year break then been doing 0-4 times per year for ten years now. ( Some years zero times and one year four times)

Mostly did with friends, we would go to trance, or dance clubs . It's fun dancing with females on it on dancefloor. Now that I'm older , I think it was funner bc it was new, and wasn't as experienced with woman. But , if you have a friend(s) to do this with it can be fun, still bc used to do it eight years ago in clubs, bars, night venues

If possible the ultimate experience is with opposite sex. Both of you together alone. Certain kinds of music does seem to enhance it, or maybe it feels that way from previous experience. Trance, dance techno, house, along those lines. Of course experiment and see

Dosing 80-120 mgs . One can still fell 80 mgs. Many x pills can be mixed with mdma, and mda ,mdma are fun combo. One time dosing is what I prefer. Have tried taking half to r so hour or two in. Have tried snorting it hour or so in. One dose is all that's needed. Research shows halfway or whatever in dosing is not worth the extra neurotoxin effects.

Cannabis after doing it 15-20 xs verses not ( rolled fifty times is guess) it's individual it seems. For me it seems to make the experience a bit more hazy. I prefer CBD cannabis to smoke, which does seem to ease the come up a bit but doesn't seem to cause a bit of forgetfulness

Getting sleep is very important afterwards and next day THC cannabis seems pleasant. Not restricting eating the next day , so would do it if not a reduced calorie day, and have next day totally off work, and of course spending it with soulmate or special friend you did it with, has been best recipe for myself, seems to make it more special
 
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I've taken it three times and loved it every time. I found out that if you start off with a slight alcohol buzz, then sip on wine or your alcoholic beverage of choice all night or day, or whatever, it is a much better feeling. It cuts down the jitter and it feels like you are more on Ecstasy without the speed. That is just me.

Good luck.

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