Advice for a first time 2c-b trip

[BluLait]

I've got some, and I want to try.
I have actually snorted a little to do sort of an allergy/legitimacy test.

I don't know how much I snorted, But it was probably no more than 5-10 mg's.

The effects were minimal but they were there.

My body was a bit lighter and floaty just like you get on MDMA where you feel weightless.
The colours were brighter and prettier, nothing spectacular though.
A little bit of head rushy euphoria, but barely noticeable, which quickly went away.

1 hour after snorting, I looked down at the floor, it was filled with different sized dots and I thought I noticed the dots swirl around and move just the slightest bit. Also a vertical metal bar appeared to be moving kind of like a snake, but in reality it wasn't. Those were the only visuals I experienced.

Other effects (maybe due to the 2c-b) were that I was talking a little more than usual, kind of like a really small dose of speed. And I had some moments when I laughed my face off, kind of like when you're really stoned and shit is so damn funny.

I have no Idea how much I snorted, but the effects were very disappointing and amounted to nothing really. Probably just because of the low dose.

Should I snort it the next time I try it? I don't really have a very accurate milligram scale and I can't really dose the doses that accurately. I could probably split the 2c-b in quantities ranging from 14-22mg's.

I want to snort it so that I can snort a small amount, wait 20 minutes, and then snort a little more if I'm not satisfied with the effects. I can't really do that with an oral dose since it takes about an hour just to kick in.

Anyway, I'm open to advice.
Should I trip alone in my room? At a rave and combine it with MDMA? What about going outside in the city? Should I have a partner ?

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

I don't know how much I snorted, But it was probably no more than 5-10 mg's.

That is way too much for a test, one of the major reasons people do them is to be sure they didn't get other chemicals by mistake, as has happened in the past (with fatal results).

Anyway, if you can't measure things accurately, snorting is not the way to go since it has a smaller margin of error than oral dosing, as you'll have to take less to achieve a given level effects. By your saying you don't have a very accurate scale, I'm assuming you do have a scale, if you do you can weigh your entire sample, dissolve it in a known amount of liquid and use liquid dosing.

You also sound as though you're new to tripping, if this is so, then I heartily recommend you check out the beginner's FAQ And the beginner's relevant links (and whatsoever else you are interested in) in our handy dandy PD Index.

 

[BluLait]

By your saying you don't have a very accurate scale, I'm assuming you do have a scale, if you do you can weigh your entire sample, dissolve it in a known amount of liquid and use liquid dosing.

I have a 0.01 scale, so that's 10 mg.
I was thinking of weighing my whole sample, which was 100mg before I tested it. It's probably 95mg's now. So I'll just split that into 5 little lines. How does that sound?

That is way too much for a test, one of the major reasons people do them is to be sure they didn't get other chemicals by mistake, as has happened in the past (with fatal results).

I know, the bromo-dragonfly thing, right?
The person who I bought it from is a long-time friend and he gets high on the stuff, so I wasn't too worried about that kind of shit.

You also sound as though you're new to tripping, if this is so, then I heartily recommend you check out the beginner's FAQ And the beginner's relevant links (and whatsoever else you are interested in) in our handy dandy PD Index.

Yep, thanks.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

I have a 0.01 scale, so that's 10 mg.
I was thinking of weighing my whole sample, which was 100mg before I tested it. It's probably 95mg's now. So I'll just split that into 5 little lines. How does that sound?

Given that the powder can be packed differently, you can't really eyeball that well. It'd be best if you went with liquid dosing, you can get an oral syringe, to ensure accuracy, at any pharmacy. Phenethylamines (like 2c-b) are pretty stable, so you shouldn't have to worry about it degrading in your solvent of choice. However, given the amounts involved, and the fact that it's a substance with a decent margin of safety, it's not like anything horrible is going to happen if you just physically divide the sample.

 

[BluLait]

I see, then maybe I should go looking for a more accurate scale.
Liquid dosing sounds horrible, I don't wanna go around with a syringe, it's also hard to hide, capsules are so much more handy.
Plus, liquid will get wasted, unless I pour the stuff directly into my mouth. But then I'll have to get 5 syringes, each carrying 20mg of dissolved 2c-b. Or a single syringe with 5ml of solvent with 20mg/ml, and pour a ml on a plate or something and then lick it. Just sounds overly complicated.

I don't plan to take this at home, that's why I said it would be a hazard to carry the damn syringe with me.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

You get a vial, stick the liquid in it, then use an oral syringe or eye dropper (the former being preferable since it is more precise) to measure out your dose, since you know how many mg/mL there are. You could divide up the doses in seperate containers or whatever then evaporate the liquid, you'll want to use a more volatile solvent in this case, so you have a powder you can cap up. Just be sure it's completely dry if you're using a solvent not meant for human consumption.

But as said, in this specific case, you can get away with putting it in caps as you've described, and just get a more accurate scale for next time if you don't wanna mess with volumetric dosing. Also, keep in mind that the strength of the trip will be variable since doses will be, so just because one capsule gives you a ++ doesn't mean another can't tip you over into a +++.

As for your other queries, 2c-b tends to be pretty easy going, but it's always a good idea to do a test at home (or some other private/'safe' place) to see how you handle the trip before determining if you wanna do it outside, or wanna combine it with anything else. As for company, that's up to you. I'd strongly recommend doing it at home if you choose to experiment further with intranasal administration (which I would firmly recommend against without knowing exactly how much you're taking).

Stay safe, and happy tripping.

 

[BluLait]

Thanks.

Reffering to insufflating the 2c-b. Can't I just take it in increments? Like pour out a small little bump, snort that, wait 20 mins, see what it's like, snort another little bump, wait another 20 minutes and repeat until I get to where I want to be? That's the main advantage I thought snorting had over oral dosing when not being able to measure the 2c-b very accurately.

 

[phenethylo J]

Just eat it; 2c-b has great oral ba. The fact you can't acuretly measure it makes snorting a very bad idea since it will be allot easier to take too much. You can get a decent mg scale for $20-40 that would be acurate enough to weigh out 2c-b.

 

[bluedolphin]

2C-B is only half as good snorted compared to when you eat it.

Although every 10mg snorted requires ~ 17mg if you eat it. Still, I would advise you not go above 25mg orally on your first attempt with this ROA.

 

[BluLait]

Why is it only half as good? It still goes down your throat and in your stomach so basically nothing is lost.... So the only thing that sucks about snorting can mean shorter duration. But that only means you get higher off less.

 

[porkstock]

dude, everyone is telling you not to snort it for a reason. for a couple reasons actually.

1) it's less safe than oral dosing to begin with. couple that with the fact that you have very little idea of your actual dose AND snorting is more potent...this is a great way to accidentally dose too high.

2) from what i understand (i've always eaten my PEAs), an oral 2cb trip is "more complete" than a snorted one. the trip has a gradual comeup, a plateau, and a gradual decent. snorting it is fucking with the timeline, but not just that...it alters the trip to maybe feel more speedy and less fully psychedelic.
it works when you eat it. it's safer when you eat it. and it's not THAT much of a money saver to snort it. so why not just eat it?

AND GET A BETTER SCALE please

 

[correctly]

i would recommend on taking it orally go about 23mg then if that is still mild for you by the 2-3 hour mark then snort maybe up to 3-5mg. SCALE is a MUST.
23mg oral for me was quite light and mellow, slight OEVs and more CEVs that were really fun and interesting. did not get much body high. maybe have weak 2cb but it still was good. needs more research