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Bsiren

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Back when I first started using MDMA, the term "adulterated" scared me- anything other than MDMA in a pill was not what I thought I was after. Now, I realize not all "adulterants" are the same, in fact, I'm guessing some may be even less harmful than MDMA in some fashion?

I've had pleasant experiences getting pills that contained:
MDA
Ketamine (small amounts w/MDMA)
c2-b (small amounts w/MDMA)

UNPLEASANT:
Piperazine
MBDB


The general information I've heard about adulterants- is that piperazines, methamphetamines and PMA's are the "worst" for you (PMA and MDMA can apparently up your risk for serotonin syndrome), but I have no data to back that up, it just seems to be the general tone on erowid and pillreports. I've only done MDMA for over a year now, so I'm still learning.

I want to be clear that I DO OWN A TEST KIT. I have no interest in taking anything without knowing what it is first- I'm just curious as to others opinions and experiences.

Just like people who only use legal prescription drugs fall under the illusion that they're "safer" because of the legal status, I think some people who only do MDMA assume that MDMA in it's pure form is somewhat "safe" and anything it could be cut with is dangerous and unwanted....I know I fell into this category just a few months ago.

What do you think the worst adulterant out there is?
 
rincewindrocks said:
still, thats like sayin theres no pills with coke or heroin in them either. just because they're rare and old doesn't mean that there's no way you'll get one. they've been known to happen, so the likelyhood is someone will do it again
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thank you! imagine how many pills are NOT on ecstasydata or confiscated by the DEA.

There are dealers with zero scruples. If someone is looking to buy E and they have a pill that looks like it, they'll sell it.

Any pill can have almost any substance in it. Some are certainly more rare than others, but never say never...
 
The list of active adulterants just gets crazier with all the new research chemicals showing up it wont be long before some of them end up in pills.

The last adulterant that I read a warning about was a industrial weedkiller
2-(4-CHLORO-2-METHYLPHENOXY)PROPIONIC ACID.

Makes having a pipe pill sound like a nice experience.
 
I used to be like you were Bsiren! If it said "Adulterated" on pill reports I would just skip them over and presume they had nothing that I wanted. Until a couple of raves I went to and took pure MDMA and couldn't get out of the cuddle puddle... then I realized that maybe a little adulterant to get me up and moving might not be so bad.

I've personally only ever experienced Amp and Meth in pills (besides my one Pipe experience) and never really seemed to mind it as long as the MDMA ratio was a lot higher than the adulterant. The only really bad part is getting to sleep and the next day being a bit worse.

As for pipes... I will never go near another pill with any sort of piperazine again. That was just terrible. And one of my regular rolling friends isn't down for hallucinogens so I probably won't be picking up any trippy pills any time soon (though she didn't seem to mind MDA.)
 
avcpl said:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=substance&s=pcp
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Not 2 years old, look at the test date, SEVEN YEARS OLD.
socalthizzn said:
Two years old....
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Just double poinint out that that's the published date, their test date was in 03.

rincewindrocks said:
still, thats like sayin theres no pills with coke or heroin in them either. just because they're rare and old doesn't mean that there's no way you'll get one. they've been known to happen, so the likelyhood is someone will do it again
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The DEA has said that THEY HAVE NEVER TESTED ANY E PILL THAT HAD ANY OPIATE IN IT, AND THEY'VE TESTED LOTS. Heroin is an even more stupid thing to say considering it's barely active orally(tar is inactive orally), so even if there was ONE kind of E pill with it it wouldn't get anybody high.

Some pills have had like 20mg of coke in them... so what? That's completely inactive if you pop it in pills, it won't hurt you. It's also way more expensive than MDMA, so while this has happened(very rarely), it's stupid to do, won't do anything to you, and is a waste of money(for the presser, maby some just got borred).





And for the thread, I'll say I'd rather take E pills with a 2C or something like that in them than a clean pill. Meth makes pills more fun too, I just try to limit that more. The things I don't want are like pipes and PMA(which I don't know I've heard of being in a pill, I think that was more of a problem 10 years ago). I wish I could just get 2c-b powder again though...
 
rincewindrocks said:
^^who says the DEA is the god of testing?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=substance&s=heroin

not saying its smart for dealers to put it in, or that it will do anything, just saying it has happened
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5mg of heroin and 2.5mg coke, wow.
I think when you could click on that motorola Edata said they think it was made just to send to them for testing. So I'll say that I don't think any pill that was mass released to the streets had any more than a few mg of heroin, if there were even pills with that.

Even if it's happened, even if they put in a ton of coke, you guys talk about it like it's dangerous or something. How many people do you know that IV their ecstasy pressed pills?
 
sir_thizzalot said:
Not 2 years old, look at the test date, SEVEN YEARS OLD.


Just double poinint out that that's the published date, their test date was in 03.
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WHEN it happened makes ZERO difference. For the last year and a half I've been on Bluelight I've been reading how there has NEVER been ANY pills with either PCP, coke, or heroin, EVER. Clearly that is false.

The fact that it has happened should make everyone think, what are they going to put in a pill TOMORROW? Who the fuck knows? And will a testing kit be able to identify it?

Here's my advice:
1. Research and find a good press
2. Send one in to ecstasydata.org
3. Stock the fuck up
4. Roll in good health!
 
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You're probably right. I mean all pills have at least 140mg of mdma like 30 years ago right? They did then and it makes ZERO difference that that was then, so me think that all pill have at least 140mg now because I cam use common sense/reason very good.
 
140mg in every pill?
cracker please.
not even 100mg in most pills, my money says.
present day rolls that is
 
I agree with all the above, in that hoping you never get a pill with anything other than MDMA in them is a dream beyond a dream. It's a part of the game we all play, and we're all going to get adulterated pills at some point.

However, as the name implies, I am a bit of a purist when it comes to MDMA. While I have had some good experiences with other "adulterants" and they are ok in their own right, IMO none of them come close to pure MDMA, and not by a long shot.

As far as the worst adulterants, from what I've read PMA is some nasty shit. I'd put pipes up there too simply because they're EVERYWHERE!

Just my two cents, but I think adulterants suck and should die a slow death. Gimme the pure!
 
LSDMDMA&8644525 said:
140mg in every pill?
cracker please.
not even 100mg in most pills, my money says.
present day rolls that is
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Read into my sarcasm, read what he wrote and my reply.

He was making it sound like because pills in 03 tested positive for PCP then that makes it true that there's pill out there's pills being released now with PCP in them. Or heroin.

I know what I'm talking about, read my post above this two more times and the point I was making will make sense(point being that there aren't 140mg pills now, so talking about the date of when things happened does matter. He said it "makes ZERO difference").

Also don't say cracker, it really just sounds pretty stupid....
I think I've had 2-3 kinds of pills with 100+mg in them(one of them being some really old blue music notes). Pokeballs that people obsess over have like 85. Mints might have over a hundred, I wouldn't know.
 
sir_thizzalot said:
Read into my sarcasm, read what he wrote and my reply.

He was making it sound like because pills in 03 tested positive for PCP then that makes it true that there's pill out there's pills being released now with PCP in them. Or heroin.
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Maybe you should re-read my post because that was not what I was saying either...
 
I think 'Avcpl' has raised some valid points to be honest - so many people think that the 'coke' in pills is bullshit but the truth of the matter is it happens.

Nobdy knows what pressers are going to be putting in pills next - I simply wish they would stick to MDMA / MDA.
 
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