Adelaide: PMA Eradication

[*chaoscat*]

Since the last pma death, I have noticed that in basically every second pillreport from adelaide someone says there is some pma in the pill. The flippant way they mention this gives the impression that it is an acceptable chemical to have in your pill.
I am suspicious that since the makers will not be able to sell pma as easily in caps like they used to, they could be pressing it into pills with some mdxa to fool the testers. So we should be suspicious that locally pressed pills could contain pma. However claiming pills contain it based on word of mouth or personal opinion just adds to the confusion.
There is also a distinct lack of testing in adelaide, when the prevalence of pma here should encourage us all to test more. As long as people keep buying pma pills, the SCUM who make them will keep doing so.
So this is a call to all adelaide bluelighters (and their friends) to buy the EZ Test Xtreme, and post test results on pillreports. This is the only way we can hope to reduce the amount of pma being sold here.
Tell everyone in adelaide to buy and use the EZ Test Xtreme - use it like your life depends on it!

 

[wazza]

Tell everyone you know to cross test with all the testers every pill you wish to consume (or friends to consume).. Your life or theirs may depend on it!

 

[Soma]

If someone is knowingly selling PMA to people that don't know what it is, or think that it is something else, pick up your phone and ring the local constabulary and say 'you know that PMA thing that people die of and puts Adelaide into every PMA sheet, suchandsuch over there is selling it to people as ecstacy.' I bet they would *love* to hear it.
Don't let people get away with selling it. Practice being a good and protective member of society.

 

[des]

I think for some part, and I'm not sure how reliable these reports are, that many of these pills said to be containing PMA, actually dont. Now this isnt to say that a number out there do, but it seems that any pill with any sort of strong effect "must have PMA in it" in Adelaide at the moment. I guess it just goes to show you cant really trust any word of mouth. And i think the only words of advice you should take are -keep testing.

 

[SAboy]

Great post chaoscat - very good!
Yes people, buy the Xtreme testing kit pleeeease! They are only $74 from you know where (some are being sold in the old supreme kit - so open them up and if they have 4 vials - you have the Xtreme) But hey! what is $75 compared to a $400 ambulance ride!!!!!
I also believe that any cook making this stuff should be made to take a lethal dose of their creation - FUCKERS! Die you scum arses!
And yes PMA has found it's way into pills around adelaide - namely the recent Cloud 9's. I know there is quite a debate going on at the mo about these suckers but the test kit doesn't lie - I truely believe PMA is evident
I almost choked when I heard that there are on average a minimum of 7 PMA emergency intakes a week in Adelaide - THAT'S FUCKING WRONG!!! and this info was straight from an ER nurse.
Please Adelaide - take care of yourself and others - boycott any PMA pills (as we know there are people who knowingly take them)and have a safe Easter.
Peace

 

[Tabernacle]

Good post, fuckers selling PMA pills as MDxx should be staked out in the desert, staring into the sun and have their eyelids removed and then their genitals covered in honey while the flesh eating ants are released! On the other hand if they are selling it as PMA and people still buy it then they deserve to die. I can see what des is saying, some people claiming to have a PMA pill and then having 2-3 other pills, when the fact is that if it was PMA and they did that, they'd be dead! A primary amine test is required and then use the EZ Xtreme test (which reagent is it?) to differentiate between MDA and PMA, it's the only way to truly know if your pill contains PMA.
Remember PMA = DEATH, stay the fuck away from it!

 

[Soma]

Sorry let me clear up a couple of perhaps misconceptions about the test kits.
1. You can only have a positive test for PMA if you have a sample with none of the common illicits in it. This is via the mandelin reagent tester by Chemical Solutions. If there is MDxx present it will overide the PMA reaction.
2. The 'test' for PMA with marquis reagent is not a true test. You can't identify something just because it does not react. Too many things do not react. A non reaction however greatly increases the chance that a substance is not suitable for consumption. "If it doesn't turn black - throw it back" is an old adage that should be followed.
3. The Robadope test in the extreme kit will not only react if PMA is present, but if there MDA or amphetamine present, ie in the presene of a 'primary amine'
4. The only time you can differenciate between MDA and PMA is if they are not mixed together. At NO STAGE can you tell if something is MDA/PMA mix via the reagents. If they are seperate, both will react with robadope but only MDA with react with marquis. An MDxx reaction will also overide a PMA reaction in an MDxx/PMA mix using mandelin so that is no help.
5. If you are in Adelaide and someone hands you a cap that tests MDxx with marquis, tests Blue with Simons and Red with robadope, then you have problably got either:
MDMA/MDA mix
MDMA/PMA mix
MDMA/amphetamine mix
If I had such a reaction I would not be taking it if I was an Adelaide resident.

 

[*NRG*]

I honestly dont think that the any of these pills (cloud9) in Adelaide contain PMA. I can't be sure though. Alot of the descriptions of effects also point to a strong dose of MDA. There is no doubt that many of the caps in Adelaide do contain PMA. They have been around for years and are obviously manufactured here. Many people actually know what they are taking. They are still sold as ecstacy to anyone who doesn't know any better though. I think this is why there are so many hospitalisations. Just one of these caps whould send your average person to hospital. I'm pretty sure almost all of the recent deaths are from these (DR Death) caps.

 

[*chaoscat*]

If you are in Adelaide and someone hands you a cap that tests MDxx with marquis, tests Blue with Simons and Red with robadope, then you have problably got either:
MDMA/MDA mix
MDMA/PMA mix
MDMA/amphetamine mix
If I had such a reaction I would not be taking it if I was an Adelaide resident.
I won't be taking any caps from adelaide, no matter how they test... seems like in the eastern states there are occasionally really good caps around, but the proportion of dodgy caps in adelaide is just too high to even bother with them.
The thing is many people are wary of caps, but may not think it is likely that pma will be pressed into a pill, particularly if it tests positive for mdxx using the marquis test. But lately there seems to have been an increase of pills that seem to come from the adelaide area (eg. cloud 9's), so everyone needs to be reminded that locally made pills are more likely to contain pma than pills made in other parts of the country.
I'm not saying that all local pills are bad, but be extra cautious with them, and certainly don't take them until you have tested them as much as you possibly can (even though that still can't completely eliminate the risk).
Has anyone heard of anyone trying to sell the brown caps since the last death from them? I haven't, so I suspect the FUCKERS who made them might be trying to get rid of it disguised as other things.
It has consistently been made here for so long, it's gotta be some pathetic bikies making it? What do you think? Whoever it is, they've gotta be some dumbfucks, and I hate to think how much money they are making from it! Like Soma said, if you know anyone who is knowingly trying to sell it, dob them in, it can only make the scene better

 

[Lord Kaos]

I honestly dont think that the any of these pills (cloud9) in Adelaide contain PMA.
All I know is that 2 of my friends have thrown up and been totally off tap on varying amounts of cloud 9's....one had 1/2 and the other had three......who knows whats in em but stay away

 

[entropope]

Perth used to be the home of crappy pills, speed bombs, k bombs, yellow 69s and white cloud 9s... Now it's really hard to find a dodgy pill. This happened a while ago when someone acted like Che and got some shyte happening, and shortly after we had media coverage of testing kits. Tell every random you talk to for two seconds in any setting (that is condusive to allowing the knowledge that you take drugs) about pillreports.com and bluelight.ru and testing kits and PMA!
In a city the size of Adelaide... half a dozen of youse can make a big difference.

 

[*NRG*]

All I know is that 2 of my friends have thrown up and been totally off tap on varying amounts of cloud 9's....one had 1/2 and the other had three......who knows whats in em but stay away
Whats throwing up and being off tap got to do with it? How experienced where your friends? Me and about 4 friends had these on the weekend. No feelings of nausea and no one was uncomfortable. They do make you hot but that doesn't have to mean PMA. There are deffinately two batches of these in Adelaide. The ones we had are unmistakable. They are very large, clean white with a slight dome, they are well pressed but soft. Still I should point out that they are a last resort and I would prefer something else. I've had the Brown caps that are confirmed PMA and these cloud9's are nothing like them. I've never had anything else that made me feel like those brown caps. Oh, and they are still about Chaoscat its just that no one is advertising them.
[ 01 April 2002: Message edited by: *NRG* ]