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adding a beer for a nod

falsifiedhypothesi

falsifiedhypothesi

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I have been very disappointed with the effects hydrocodone is giving me lately. I've now started taking 40mg of hydro and the buzz still isn't that great so now I'm adding a beer on top of it all. This helps initiate a heavy nod and slightly prolongs the buzz. I know this isn't sustainable and will just get me addicted and destroy my liver but opiates aren't working at all for me lately.

Kratom has shot my tolerance up to an unbelievably high level for me. I was taking regular bali kratom everyday for the past 2-3 months at 5-12 grams a day. I didn't think my tolerance went up this much until I took my first dose of Hydrocodone a few days ago. Prior to this past week the last time I used hydro was probably over 6 months ago. At first I took 20mg and that hardly did anything. Anything else out there that will help bring back the opiate buzz without killing me slowly?
 
Look into using DXM to cut tolerance. I've read about it.

Otherwise you'll just have to abstain for a week maybe 2 and you'd more than likely go into w/d. But it will reset your tolerance to a better point.

And I agree the beer is bad to make a habit out of. Definitely not good for the liver and chances are you'd need to drink 2, and then 3 and then so on...
 
SMOKE WEED MAN itll bring out the nod!

try promethazine also. lots of people do that. this shit alone at 75mg has me knocked the f out and barely able to stand so i guess one 25mg pill on top of the opies will unleash the nod

these alternatives are probably better than booze/benzos because less risky (not so sure about the promethazine though) and less dependence

also, you know, cutting back on opiates would be the ideal... but you know how life is
 
I tried weed and it just fucked up the high, I can't stand weed except on a rare occasion. I guess I'll just have to wait for my tolerance to drop. I'm going burn through my stash first, Im definitly not going to be able to save them ?
 
May be youre smoking a high THC strain? May be try a CBD dominant strain? Try to get slightly high, so the weed adds to and not overpowers the opiate high. Idk what could work

Also, again, promethazine
 
falsifiedhypothesi said:
I have been very disappointed with the effects hydrocodone is giving me lately. I've now started taking 40mg of hydro and the buzz still isn't that great so now I'm adding a beer on top of it all. This helps initiate a heavy nod and slightly prolongs the buzz. I know this isn't sustainable and will just get me addicted and destroy my liver but opiates aren't working at all for me lately.

Kratom has shot my tolerance up to an unbelievably high level for me. I was taking regular bali kratom everyday for the past 2-3 months at 5-12 grams a day. I didn't think my tolerance went up this much until I took my first dose of Hydrocodone a few days ago. Prior to this past week the last time I used hydro was probably over 6 months ago. At first I took 20mg and that hardly did anything. Anything else out there that will help bring back the opiate buzz without killing me slowly?
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Oxys would work better IMO but it all depends on how much you take. 40 mg of Oxys, morphine or heroin would be, for me, like an aspirin.
People normally start with a dose and builds up the ideal one adding a pill every hour or 2 if you don't feel anything.

And yes, prometazine really makes it stronger, 75 mg, you need to search for the amount but I've taken it myself with Oxys and it helped.

Alcohol increases and makes both chemicals more intense but we are not supposed to do this mix.
 
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I have read some posts a long time ago about how opiates change the effects of weed for many users.

I came across some articles as my weed high was not as pleasurable as it used to be. To my surprise there were a lot of info explaining why opiate interaction spoils a weed trip.

I was in Amsterdam and every time I'd smoke a joint it was a nightmare..
 
i have no idea where I would get prometazine, I'm pretty sure it's not otc here. I know my tolerance isn't high at all but it's never been this high in the four years I've been taking opiates. It's probably just psychological tolerance setting in, Im getting used to the same high and getting bored with it. I realize oxys would be better but oxy is literally double the price of hydro so it's not worth it.

I've always had bad times on weed and it's spoiled a lot of good times for me, it's very rarely made a party better for me. I have too low of a tolerance to weed, I can smoke .05 of some mids and be ripped. It's a fine line between bad trip and slightly sedating relaxation.
 
I'd also recommend smoking weed on opiates. It always worked for me in really accentuating an H high...same for many people I've known.

A 1st gen anti-histamine like promethazine would also be good, as previously mentioned. It's prescription only in the USA so it may be easier to just use diphenhydramine.
 
Don't combine alcohol with an opiate, or another downer.

I have seen people post about doing this all the time, and had friends who did it; but it's not safe as people have died from it.

Since you're going to use opiates anyway:
Just smoke some herb, or hash instead and use a pure Indica, or Indica dominant type.
 
Well... hydrocodone's a pretty weak opiate. I've only ever used it if there wasn't anything else.

If you want a stronger opiate high, there are stronger opiates out there that are easily accessible.

Adding a beer won't really enhance the high.
 
My recommendation is add 350 mg (1 tablet) of Soma. That is the tried-and-true for me as far as hydrocodone potentiators go. Also, dose the hydro on an empty stomach (unless it gives you nausea).
 
There were only two times any opiate gave me nausea, the first was my first 5mg Vicodin, the second was a nasty kratom overdose that had me reeling on my bathroom floor for a couple hours. I always take them on an empty stomach, usually with a couple tums beforehand, and maybe 13-25mg of dph to keep the itching at bay.

I think the problem was that I was stuck in the same routine, taking the drug at the same time, same setting, everyday. I hung out with my friend today and had 30mg during, it was better. I can still feel my tolerance growing and I stupidly got more oxy. I now have access to large amount of pills, this is sort of a crossroad situation. I've got less time with friends due to work and more time by myself at home. I need to go back to school!
 
Is the reason you're worried about your liver that you're taking Vicodin/Norcos/something with Tylenol? It is true that if you are a regular drinker of even a few drinks a day APAP (Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol) is more toxic to your liver and kidneys than a non-drinking person's. So consider cold water extraction? Interestingly, I've read the details of the interaction between alcohol and APAP are more complex than most people know. For example if you take a single overdose of APAP taking it with alcohol might actually protect you, though I wouldn't count on one beer being enough - or really please don't count on this information to save you at all, obviously. But it's pretty well agreed that regular drinking makes APAP more dangerous and regular APAP ain't that good for you anyway.

Otherwise the reason you need to be careful mixing alcohol with opiates is the combined effect on your breathing. If you're already settled into a mild hydrocodone high a beer is not gonna kill you - just don't get too relaxed about the combination. You know, wait for the hydro to come on before you drink, don't go and take a bunch of shots, don't start gulping down pills when you're already shitfaced, don't add benzos or other downers, you get the point...
 
Thanks for the reminder Space Ways. Just a few nights ago I was getting frustrated with how ineffective the hydro was. I ended up taking 40mg hydro, a couple beers, 50mg diphenhydramine, and .25mg Xanax, all taken on only a very small snack. I have no tolerance to any of these with the obvious exception. I was slurring like I chugged a pint of jack and my breathing was pretty shallow. I know the general rules for HR when CNS depressants are involved but my impulses got the best of me. It was a learning experience if nothing else.

Side note: Is there anyone here that would vouch for grapefruit juice or delsym (dxm polystyrex) as a practical potentiator? I understand they inhibit the cyp2d6 enzyme but does it make a noticeable difference?
 
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