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ADDICTS ONLY: Is YOUR addiction a disease?

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Khadijah

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If YOU are a addict, or have been, i just got one simple question for you. And dont get it confused with "Is addiction a disease?" That one been done. I am asking AS a addict, Do you feel that you have a disease? I aint tryin to discriminate against no one, but the reason I only want to hear from addicts is that only they are qualified, IMO to say if they think bein a addict is a medical condition/disease. I think its funny, becuz so many "professionals" be like "They cant help it, its a disease!" and then the addicts be like "Uh...No.....I did it to myself..."

So I am asking ADDICTS and FORMER ADDICTS only, Only the ones who been thru it, DO YOU THINK YOUR ADDICTION IS/WAS A DISEASE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THINGS OUT OF YOUR HANDS WHICH YOU CANNOT CONTROL, OR IS IT DETERMINED BY YOUR OWN ACTIONS AND CHOICES?

I never met someone (other than those old totally brainwashed AA/NA heads whose like 35+) who was addicted to shit who honestly believed that they had a disease and were totally completely helpless against drugs/drinkig.I think its possible to feel like you had a genetic predisposition to it, addictive personality, whatever, but in the long run I think most ppl feel that they directed the path they chose, and their brain chemistry or whatever just added fuel to the fire.

So, Im askin yall what your answer to this question is and please give some explanation about why you feel that way, not just a one word answer. Just post how you personally feel about your own experiences and why you think you got that way, but keep it to bein about yourself not others. once again...This is not the "is addiction a disease" question. I only want to hear if YOU think YOUR addiction is a disease. Im sorry if i repeated that alot of times, but i wanna make sure its 100% clear what this thread is askin so it dont get closed for bein a repeat, becuz IMO these are 2 very different questions. Hope that makes sense, n im lookin forward to yalls responses. :)
 
I'm so itchy to post about my brothers addiction here... but I won't he's gone now... not coming back ...

grr..

blurp

man
you don't play fair... I wanna post too

I'm not an addict... but I have an interesting story anyway...

just love me don't get mad and smile get ready here it comes...

I have been in those behavioral health places like 4 times well while I was in one of them they asked what my meds were... and at that time I was on percocets 10s 3 times a day for chronic pain...

can you believe they weaned me off that shit... I thought it was funny at the time... but then what wasn't funny was that by the time I left that place I had been convinced that since my brother had been an addict I was too...

I came home after 6 days of them brainwashing me to think I was an addict... they told me I had a disease... and even made me have an AA meeting before I left the place...

For sometime I was completely afraid to pick up my pills again... I had never abused them or anything

It took a while and a good doctor to explain that I was no addict... but physically dependent yes and just because my brother died from his addiction disease as they literally put it I was not going to inherit that gene from him and end up and addict and die from it...

I had to get therapy for not being an addict!!!

Those places are the devil... and nothing but big stupid devils...

sorry... i'm not an addict, but I thought this would put an interesting twist to your question plus not make it a duplicate!! yay me...

and I can't seem to stop... what is wrong with me...

manic manic
 
I am a former addict to alcohol and to amphetamines. My addiction was not a disease in the same sense that diabetes or even schizophrenia is a disease, but rather an interaction of my personal faults, weaknesses, and proclivities with a greater social context, leading to a series of decisions in which I have free will, although exercising it in the "healthy" way is, for reasons relating to all of these dimensions, at times, very difficult.
 
I was and am addicted to marijuana (obviously it is entirely a mental addiction), I used it to escape and repress some issues I never worked through.
I dont feel that my addiction is a disease and I feel that my use was and is entirely by my own choice.
 
Its kinda pointless to post when u didnt even read the thread....if its too long why dont u just take a quick look to get some idea of what ur talkin about...
 
ok i read your full post and my answer is still the same, it depends on your definition of a disease.
 
burn out said:
ok i read your full post and my answer is still the same, it depends on your definition of a disease.
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to quote wiki

"A disease is an abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions.[citation needed] In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, social problems, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.[citation needed]

While many diseases are biological processes with observable alterations of organ function or structure, others primarily involve alterations of behavior.

Classifying a condition as a disease is a social act of valuation, and may change the social status of the person with the condition (the patient). Some conditions (known as culture-bound syndromes) are only recognized as diseases within a particular culture. Sometimes the categorizaton of a condition as a disease is controversial within the culture."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease

here maybe that will help

mwahaha
 
Maybe this bit of information will help you guys stop spending so much cash on drugs and get back into school: the feelings produced by opiates are not eueuphoria they are pseudoeuphoria

true euphoria comes from studying the world (i prefer the study of living systems on as small of a scale as u can get, integrable to the largest system)
 
Adrenochrome said:
Maybe this bit of information will help you guys stop spending so much cash on drugs and get back into school: the feelings produced by opiates are not eueuphoria they are pseudoeuphoria

true euphoria comes from studying the world (i prefer the study of living systems on as small of a scale as u can get, integrable to the largest system)
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for me all my most euphoric feelings have come from drugs. for anything i do in the world, there is always the feeling that something is missing.
 
Lacey:Well now you have met an addicted person who indeed believes that they have a disease.

An addict will never have manifestations of their disease unless they engage in certain behavoir, such as initially using, right?

An allegy is also a good analogy.It lies within your system, in hibernation if you will, until your immune system is exposed to the allergen. IF I have a shellfish allergy, I will never have a response unless eating shellfish. I do not know I have this predisposed condition UNTILL consuming shellfish.

I am an opiate/opioid addcit. Since I do not smoke (never have), drink, or take any other form of psychoactives, it is a good bet that had I never been severely injured and exposed to morphine that I would have never known that I held this predisposition to opiates/opioids.


The question of freewill is valid but again, I have the freewill not to eat scallops, tright? If I hold that allergy though, and then consume scallops, I am bringing a physical reaction. Same thing holds true here.

Diaebetes is another analogy, and so on.

Adrenochrome: Tell that to the Mu2 subset of receptors. Euphoria is quantifiedphysically so that sort of reasoning is a bit nonsensical. It DOESdepend on subjective reasning, perception, but is also a physical maifestation (sphincter, abdominal, tailflick/twitch,etc).
Addiction also holds to the virus pattern on a mental level so that it qualifies as both a physical and mental disease.
 
I too beleive that i have a disease, and completely agree with Rachamim, i would have stated pretty much the same things if he had not before me. I too am addicted to opiods/opiates as well.

great topic as usual lacy.

Landoallah
 
I was of the opinion addiction was a physical neural problem that one had very little control off, except be it starting the junk in the first place.

After the amazing insights gained from numerous attempts at quiting weed i am convinced a good part of ones troubles are purely manifested and executed inside ones head.

The biggest mistake isnt underestimating drugs, its underestimating your mind ...... thats the real kicker.
 
It is a disease. I believe I was born with it. I also believe that my depression/anxiety have a hand in it as well.
 
i do not think its a disease. Its something i brought on myself. I could have said NO, but i didnt. You cant say no to a disease. I do think that some people are more prone to addiction.
 
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