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645am...at 630 my stomach was killing me so i dosed 30mg hydrocodone, going to skip my codeine (2 doses,180mg) doses til around dinner time, im goinngi to try and go thru the WD til then...if i dont suceed like an idiot illl get u knw ha
 
DJ25 said:
^ I'm the same mate- I cannot wean off, 'there's always tomorrow' I tell myself. This is why I believe Sub is a miracle drug, even though you are swapping addictions in a sense. But your swapping to a much better 'medical' source of help. I need to get on it asap, I'm just literally shit scared that my Doc will refuse Sub and take me off codeine and give me clonidine etc. I'm in two minds but my addictions are getting way outa hand and I'll end up taking an OD I can see it.

So it has to stop even without sub.
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You'll probably find that the clonidine helps you more than the codeine.
 
ofukibenhearB4 said:
hahahah
you think tapering with opiates is possible? if so then your a STRONG ass person and props. to most of us that would be a joke. you just eat them all at the highest doses you can till they are gone then you get sick as fuck and when your just about over it you find something and start the cycle again. its fucked up.
if you want to quit JUST QUIT!!!!!! dont put it off. seriously just fuckign do it right now thats the ONLY way to quit doing anything; just stop doing it.
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yes i know how it goes....the codeines just a start, maybe even just a test......i mean i do wanna get off oxy but its not just that, its those days where i cant even get to schoool cuz im in bed looking for more oxy and not being able to move unless i need to get up to have water leak out my ass....haha im tapering down is all im doin then we'll see
 
830 pm, 30mg today plus 60mg codeine, minor stomache ache, its okay, im tired even tho ive ben sleeping all day so ill sleep it off and dose the same tomrrow
 
1045....dosed 60mg hydrocoodone once today, at 10am, nothing else ....only one high during the day, not bad haha...withdrawls are restlesness as of now my legs are AWAKE...gonna dose a subox that a friend gave to me in the AM
 
does anyone know ...when i take a sub, what happens if i swallow the juice cuz i knokow my mouth is gonna run with water while its under my tyounge
 
DJ25 said:
Cheers Mr Blonde. That is exactly how I find it with GFJ more of a heavy dysphoric high, so I'm knocking that on the head. I've has some great experiences with codeine and well... too much alcohol but that's another story.

These days the max I can drink without feeling dick or feeling like I wanna die the next day is 1-3 drinks so I'm gonna give this a whirl with some pods I'm using until my codeine script arrives although I really need off of it for a while.

So is Diphenhydramine a CYP2D6 inducer.

Which are the common inducers? I'll have a quick search too.
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As someone else already pointed out, diphenhydramine is actually a CYP2D6 inhibitor.

To check out the inducers, go to the Other Drugs Directory, look under general for CYP-450 interaction chart. Once you get into the PDF, scroll down until you come across CYP2D6.

I'm looking at it now and the inducers listed are:

  1. carbamazepine (Mood stabilizer/Anti-convulsant)
  2. ethanol (Booze)
  3. phenobarbital (Barbiturate)
  4. phenytoin (Antiepileptic, commonly used according to Wiki)
  5. primidone (Anti-convulsant, pro-drug for phenobarbital)
  6. rifampin (Anti-biotic)
  7. ritonavir (Antiretroviral, i.e. AIDS or HIV medicine)
  8. St John's Wort (Herbal anti-depressant)

I've also heard St John's Wort referred to as a CYP3A4 inducer however, but that's not listed in the chart. I may need to look into that.

As for how well any of those work, I can't testify to except for alcohol and St John's Wort. I noticed no added effects with SJW, and I've already mentioned alcohol.
 
Make sure you know that it's ok to take sub before you do it, because it could precipitate withdrawal. Hopefully someone that knows will reply.

I feel for you too, I've been trying to kick the habit for a couple of months, just chasing my tail. The worst part for me is feeling like I am jumping out of my skin and can't sleep. Does clonidine help this (I don't know if it's caused by increased norepinephrine)?

Good luck!
 
Instead of this haphazard way of going about your tapering, why don't you make a schedule and stick to it. Possibly start with Oxy or Hydro, then once you have tapered most of the way, switch to codeine.
 
yeah i got the steady sub going now, i can get almost whenever i want, ill keep gettin the codeine for the days i dont have it...we'll see what happens
 
Your doctor has you on the sub or are you getting it elsewhere? Something tells me elsewhere. Are you starting with a sub dose and then tapering down from that? It almost sounds to me like you aren't seriously trying to quit, just rather stave off withdrawals.
 
Maybe Dihydrocodeine CR would be a better option (if it's available over where you are).
It's used here in the UK as an alternative to Buprenorphine and Methadone.
 
Mysterious said:
Your doctor has you on the sub or are you getting it elsewhere? Something tells me elsewhere. Are you starting with a sub dose and then tapering down from that? It almost sounds to me like you aren't seriously trying to quit, just rather stave off withdrawals.
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i got it elsewhere yes, about 4, should laast me a week...true i am putting my WD off, but u gottta relize, i was taking 80-120mg up to 4 times a day, and atleast 60mg on a "bad/good day"
 
^ So you're going to take suboxone for a codeine habit that ranged from 240-480mg/day?
You're not going to need much suboxone at all, 2-4mg MAX, and I truly think that 2mg/day will be enough to completely hold you.
 
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