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Stimulants Adderall or Ritalin?

damn forum software is coughing because of the smiley I made, hence new comment.

Anyway; it is smart to figure out other ingredients in the methylphenidate product; snorting for example talc or magnesium stearate is not healthy and you might possibly want to minimize the exposure via lungs, albeit it is much less serious than IV route.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
damn forum software is coughing because of the smiley I made, hence new comment.

Anyway; it is smart to figure out other ingredients in the methylphenidate product; snorting for example talc or magnesium stearate is not healthy and you might possibly want to minimize the exposure via lungs, albeit it is much less serious than IV route.
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i understand, thanks for the tip 🙏🏼
 
I snorted a good bit of talc XR product more than 10 years ago, have never had lung issues before the COVID and x-ray year ago was completely normal, but it is good to know risks associated to make informed decisions.

Our sinuses are pretty good at their job after all and talc is one of the least reactive minerals there are. They even use it in the foodstuff sometimes.
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
I prefer Ritalin it feels more like Coke.
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Ritalin & Cocaine are both "inverse agonists" with an identical MOA ....they are monoamine reuptake inhibitors but also indirectly cause the release of dopamine in addition

Cocaine DAT>SERT>NET
Ritalin DAT>NET

Ritalin is also nearly twice the potency of Cocaine
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
I snorted a good bit of talc XR product more than 10 years ago, have never had lung issues before the COVID and x-ray year ago was completely normal, but it is good to know risks associated to make informed decisions.

Our sinuses are pretty good at their job after all and talc is one of the least reactive minerals there are. They even use it in the foodstuff sometimes.
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Wasn't talc recently connected to some cancers?
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Wasn't talc recently connected to some cancers?
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Scientists began connecting talc with diagnoses of mesothelioma and ovarian cancer and making their findings public in the 1970s and 1980s, respectively. A causal link between talc and ovarian cancer was discovered in the first scientific study conducted in 1971. However, It was only in 2023 that manufacturers (Johnson and Johnson) stopped using it in baby powder.
 
WOW! Damn interesting!

What I was referring to was risk of talcosis, lung cancers and maybe COPD. Everyone of those suck which was the only reason I started to talk about it, while my assumption is that OCCASIONAL snorting talced products is not, regarding to talc, particularly high-risk activity.

What I DEFINITELY would avoid snorting is many gabapentinoid products that are cut with talc-those gabapentinoid products tend to be so light and fluffy that sinus can not properly block little grains, and, well, you do the math.

I need to undermine; they use, or at least used, talc in some foodstuff IN FINLAND, which I think is the country of golden standards of customer production and food stuff supervision. So that's why I assume that occasional exposure can't be that bad-I guess scientists have done reasonable estimations of what is safe. But if talc has been banned of baby powder, maybe there is a good reason for it and finnish customer production could possibly have been a bit too slack about it. Dunno.
 
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I snorted 50mg of Ritalin years ago and got a pretty good high. They used to call it poor man's coke and I see why. I tried Vyvanse once and didn't like it, felt to jittery.
I found Ritalin more euphoric but everyone is different
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
WOW! Damn interesting!

What I was referring to was risk of talcosis, lung cancers and maybe COPD. Everyone of those suck which was the only reason I started to talk about it, while my assumption is that OCCASIONAL snorting talced products is not, regarding to talc, particularly high-risk activity.

What I DEFINITELY would avoid snorting is many gabapentinoid products that are cut with talc-those gabapentinoid products tend to be so light and fluffy that sinus can not properly block little grains, and, well, you do the math.

I need to undermine; they use, or at least used, talc in some foodstuff IN FINLAND, which I think is the country of golden standards of customer production and food stuff supervision. So that's why I assume that occasional exposure can't be that bad-I guess scientists have done reasonable estimations of what is safe. But if talc has been banned of baby powder, maybe there is a good reason for it and finnish customer production could possibly have been a bit too slack about it. Dunno.
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Cheshire_Kat said: Scientists began connecting talc with diagnoses of mesothelioma and ovarian cancer and making their findings public in the 1970s and 1980s,
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mesothelioma:
Mesothelioma is a cancer that affects the thin membrane protecting several of the body’s most important organs, including the lungs, abdomen and heart.

So it was already shown to be a cause of lung and heart cancer in those original studies. COPD has not been indicated yet in conjunction with talc; but with asbestos. The main difference between the two is the increased friablity (the tendency of particles to break apart) of asbestos.
 
hiii222 said:
so today i tried it. 40mg methylphenidate plugged...felt nothing 😭
I was very excited to try it but i guess it doesnt go well with my body
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Well you didn't do it correctly ....sorry, but true.

40mg of IR Ritalin is a decent well respected dose....if taken correctly

Option 1.....pulverize into fine powder, removing any particles that look like coating if applicable, clean filtered room temperature water through nasal passage to wet inside of nasal cavity.....and Blast the whole thing, half in each clear/clean/wet nostril....as Ritalin HCL is a water soluble powder and will aid its absorbing into bloodstream

Option 2 - Oral. Have a light fatty snack (toasted egg & ham sandwich) Methylphenidate taken with a meal speeds absorption ....most importantly, taking Methylphenidate with Ethanol (alcohol) increases the active isomer d-MPH (Focalin) by 40%, significantly enhancing its euphoric pleasurable effects in all study participants / as dextro-threo-Methylphenidate has the highest affinity to the DAT (also creates Ethylphenidate but the inactive Levo isomer.....not d-EPH)...and the inactive Ritalinic Acid metabolite.

IF you took the Ritalin 40mg IR in any of these two methods you'd feel GREAT :)

I do both lol.....at the same time lol, oral dose with alcohol after a meal and while onset is taking effect, I blast little lines of pulverized Ritalin while cleaning out nasal passage with clean water to aid absorption

Cheers :)
 
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Dextro .45 said:
Well you didn't do it correctly ....sorry, but true.

40mg of IR Ritalin is a decent well respected dose....if taken correctly

Option 1.....pulverize into fine powder, removing any particles that look like coating if applicable, clean filtered room temperature water through nasal passage to wet inside of nasal cavity.....and Blast the whole thing, half in each clear/clean/wet nostril....as Ritalin HCL is a water soluble powder and will aid its absorbing into bloodstream

Option 2 - Oral. Have a light fatty snack (toasted egg & ham sandwich) Methylphenidate taken with a meal speeds absorption ....most importantly, taking Methylphenidate with Ethanol (alcohol) increases the active isomer d-MPH (Focalin) by 40%, significantly enhancing its euphoric pleasurable effects in all study participants / as dextro-threo-Methylphenidate has the highest affinity to the DAT (also creates Ethylphenidate but the inactive Levo isomer.....not d-EPH)...and the inactive Ritalinic Acid metabolite.

IF you took the Ritalin 40mg IR in any of these two methods you'd feel GREAT :)

I do both lol.....at the same time lol, oral dose with alcohol after a meal and while onset is taking effect, I blast little lines of pulverized Ritalin while cleaning out nasal passage with clean water to aid absorption

Cheers :)
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good to know for next time.
thanks for the tip
 
hiii222 said:
Recently new to Adderall.
I quite enjoy that it genuinely makes me productive and so far I have never had a terrible comedown other than the usual 3 am "just one more pill" mentality.

But for recreation purposes, I really want something with more kick, more euphoria, more spice.
Can I find this in Ritalin? Maybe by snorting it?
Any other suggestions?

Obviousy there is coke but...yeah its become so dirtt and cut these days, Id rather not.
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If Adderal compares a bit with dextro-amphetamine, I would never ask to switch to the inferior Methylphenidate (MPH).
MPH is irretical in absorption among people as is the elimination. Coupled with the fast onset, peripheneral side effects, short duration and rebound. Lack in controlling ADHD but more akin to being on Coke. So up and down, fiending instead of the reliable steady slow up and down of Amphetamines.

So if you get them illegal, why not. Swapping it as prescription would not work for me. I need a workeable drug for my ADHD. Not Kiddy Coke like Ritalin.
 
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