adderall insane in the vein.

[quickstudy]

For the purpose of harm reduction, I will start by saying that IV use of a pill is bad. Always bad. No exceptions. I am aware of this. Binders and fillers are bad. Needles are bad. Hell, even drugs are bad.

I see many discount adderall as a IV drug, and I am not trying to argue, I would just like to understand the science behind what makes it so much worse. Saying the high isn't as good, or that it is a waste because of bioavailability is not accurate. I would like to know what it is that is so bad. The damage to veins is obvious, but other drugs are just as bad if not worse.

 

[Crankinit]

Order some micron filters online and the pill thing stops being an issue. Please don't IV pills without the micron filter.

As for the drug itself - IV amphetamine is, iirc, popular in certain parts of Europe, so there must be some appeal. I've read accounts of people who've done it and enjoyed it, and the amphetamine they get there is straight racemic d/l-amp, as opposed to adderall, which iirc. is 75% d-amp and 25% l-amp, so you'd have less issue with the l-amp causing PNS overstimulation.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

It's pretty simple really; you already know why it's bad. Not even a micron filter can get rid of all of the binders and fillers in a pill; for starters, in essence you're killing countless blood vessels by clogging them; some things just aren't meant to be in the circulatory system (most things, in fact). When you inject something you're by-passing your body's main filtration and defense mechanisms. All kinds of diseases can result.

I'm sure intravenous amphetamine produces a rush no matter if there's dog shit in it. You just have to ask yourself if it's worth it: which it isn't, clearly. Want gangrene because you had to stick a needle in your arm? I thought not.

I don't think drugs are bad by themselves - it's people who do bad things because of them sometimes. Drugs have given countless people a new shot at life. It's when people take hard drugs without prescription that things start turning sour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_injection It doesn't take a genius to research this for ten minutes and find out why its not a good idea to inject drugs, much less pills.

No need to study this one.

 

[Crankinit]

It's pretty simple really; you already know why it's bad. Not even a micron filter can get rid of all of the binders and fillers in a pill; for starters, in essence you're killing countless blood vessels by clogging them; some things just aren't meant to be in the circulatory system (most things, in fact). When you inject something you're by-passing your body's main filtration and defense mechanisms. All kinds of diseases can result.

I'm sure intravenous amphetamine produces a rush no matter if there's dog shit in it. You just have to ask yourself if it's worth it: which it isn't, clearly. Want gangrene because you had to stick a needle in your arm? I thought not.

I don't think drugs are bad by themselves - it's people who do bad things because of them sometimes. Drugs have given countless people a new shot at life. It's when people take hard drugs without prescription that things start turning sour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_injection It doesn't take a genius to research this for ten minutes and find out why its not a good idea to inject drugs, much less pills.

No need to study this one.

Doesn't saying ''just don't do it'' kind of defy the purpose of harm reduction? The OP has already stated that he's well aware of the risks and dangers of injecting drugs in general and pills specifically, obviously that hasn't deterred him, so your little spiel taken straight from a ''just say no'' campaign, followed up with a wiki link of all things, is a completely unproductive contribution to the discussion.

 

[spacejunk]

Is adderal d-amp?
I can tell you - from experience, witnessing others (always carefully cleaned up with filtration that ultimately run through a micron filter - and plenty of anecdotal reports - that there is no benefit over this ROA compared to oral.
No rush, no instant high reported. Just a gradual build-up to much the same effects as taking a few pills orally.

This form of administration increases risk, but consensus seems to be that the "positive (recreational) effects" aren't significant enough - if at all - to make the risk worth the gamble on your health.
I can't give you a scientific explanation - just a user's perspective. Conclusively not worth the fuss/risk.
Better 'kicks' are to be had swallowing pills, in my experience.
Less risk of serious complications too - as well as the fact that you're going to need more than 1mL of solution to shoot any considerable amount. So...micron filters, 5 mL (or 10? mL) syringes - and if you've never used them before....or even if you have - you'll want a butterfly infusion kit. Do you know what you're doing? If not, you're liable to cause yourself all kinds of problems and complications...

Have you tried plugging them?

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

The powdered Adderall is meant to gel up when wet to that it is difficult to inject. ^ the above description makes no sense unless the gel effect is interfering with the high. Methamphetamine could be the greatest IV rush in existence, why would a weaker version of the same thing have a dramatically different profile of effects with IV administration only?

Regarding the damage done, gangrene only happens if you shoot in an artery and do not go to the hospital for treatment or possibly from a horribly missed shot but not usually.

The clogged blood vessels are always in the lungs because of how our circulatory system is designed, that is why you lose lung capacity and get fluid on your lungs after a while.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Is adderal d-amp?
I can tell you - from experience, witnessing others (always carefully cleaned up with filtration that ultimately run through a micron filter - and plenty of anecdotal reports - that there is no benefit over this ROA compared to oral.
No rush, no instant high reported. Just a gradual build-up to much the same effects as taking a few pills orally.

This form of administration increases risk, but consensus seems to be that the "positive (recreational) effects" aren't significant enough - if at all - to make the risk worth the gamble on your health.
I can't give you a scientific explanation - just a user's perspective. Conclusively not worth the fuss/risk.
Better 'kicks' are to be had swallowing pills, in my experience.
Less risk of serious complications too - as well as the fact that you're going to need more than 1mL of solution to shoot any considerable amount. So...micron filters, 5 mL (or 10? mL) syringes - and if you've never used them before....or even if you have - you'll want a butterfly infusion kit. Do you know what you're doing? If not, you're liable to cause yourself all kinds of problems and complications...

Have you tried plugging them?

Adderall is a mixture of d- & l-

FWIW it's also waayyyyy moar trouble than it's worth regarding IV admin.