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watch some more discovery boy , the bubonic plaque is an example of nature at work , is that not cruel but ruthlessly effective organism(if we can even call a virus an organism)?
Nature is about one thing and one thing only : efficiency and that's the same thing that is behind the cruelty in the modern food industry.
 
It's not efficiency. That's a fallacy. These farms are destroying the environment as a major source of concentrated pollution.

The hormones and antibiotics are causing lots of problems in long term health of YOU! Not to mention the stress hormones released into the animals tissues as the result of their living conditions. This also ends up in YOU!

I already agreed that nature is sometimes cruel IMO.

You read a little bit about organic farming practices and books like Malabar Farm. You will see that modern farming is not efficient in the long run. Modern farming destroys resources and then moves on. One day there will be no place to move on to.

Anyway I don't see you changing your opinion. You have a self centered outlook. Me first. Nothing wrong with it. If that's where your joy and happiness in living comes from. I won't dis it.:)
 
bingeboy:
Animals feel pain, terror, seperation, and dispair.

The environment is being destroyed by factory farming. Clean water is disapearing rapidly.

Animal products clog arteries and cause heart attacks, strokes, and cancer.

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This isn't nit picking.

Also, factory farming resembles nature because animals that eat plants are involved...that's about it.

and you call eight pounds of grain for one pound of meat efficent?
 
U.R.B.4.U.R. said:
You have a self centered outlook. Me first. Nothing wrong with it. If that's where your joy and happiness in living comes from. I won't dis it.:)

That's like me telling you "I think you're an idealistic tree hugger who's opinions have no basis in reality. You're not thinking clearly because you're blinded by idealism. But if that's how you get your joy and happiness, then I won't dis it. :) "

If you never learn to respect and understand those with opposing points of view, then you will never change anyone's thinking. If the other side of the argument doesn't feel understood and respected, then your breath is being wasted. I think that's the case here with stagnant and now yourself.

With comments like the one I quoted, all you're doing is preaching to the choir and alienating those with opposing viewpoints, instead of helping them understand your point of view. I don't really see what good this does your cause.
 
I do respect those with opposing points of view. Just not their views.

I'm not going to change his mind here and that's ok. I like preaching to the choir, we need the affirmation.

That''s how I see what he's saying. Nothing personal. Theres a world full of people who think like this. I'm the minority.

I'm not dis-ing anyone who finds their pleasure in doing what I don't agree with. How do I know I'm right? I don't.

I have no desire to find common ground here. It's not that important to me and I've determined (right or wrong), that we won't agree here. The fact that I bluntly said what I was really thinking only shows that I do respect him, enough to share my truth with him.

I meant it when I said I wasn't going to dis him. It's not that important to me.:)
 
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