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Add years through diet

wow is anything safe erggggg......what about splenda how do you guys feel about that? like compared to other alternatives

do you guys feel THIS would be accurate?
 
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Could one of you guys that follow these guidelines give an example of a complete day following them? Any advice greatly appreciated!
 
ninjaupthere said:
Weird, I used to drink diet rockstar energy drinks alot because I didn't like all the sugar in them. Sometimes the muscles in my foot would involuntarily start to curl my toes and it would hurt if I didn't force them back. After about a month I noticed that I was being very moody and more depressed for no reason at all. It was then that my sister informed about alot of the dangers the chemical had. Nasty stuff.
(I noticed now that they use sucralose, still won't touch the stuff though.)
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Is sucralose anything like SPlenda? I know they say that "tastes like sugar because its made from sugar" but I have no idea what it is. My mom uses it, as well as aspartame. And she claims to be a health freak. When I try and tell her how bad it is for you, she just laughs at me and says they couldnt sell it if it was that bad. *SIGH* Hey mom, ever heard of CIGARETTES?
 
Is sucralose anything like SPlenda? I know they say that "tastes like sugar because its made from sugar" but I have no idea what it is. My mom uses it, as well as aspartame. And she claims to be a health freak. When I try and tell her how bad it is for you, she just laughs at me and says they couldnt sell it if it was that bad. *SIGH* Hey mom, ever heard of CIGARETTES?
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SPLENDA = SUCRALOSE

It's scary how it's worded on some sites about Splenda:
"Splenda contains no artificial chemicals and is safe for the entire
family, including persons with diabetes."
The Very Best Splenda Desserts

From Splenda.com:

The process selectively replaces three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sugar molecule with three chlorine atoms. Chlorine is present naturally in many of the foods and beverages that we eat and drink every day ranging from lettuce, mushrooms and table salt. In the case of sucralose, its addition converts sucrose to sucralose, which is essentially inert. The result is an exceptionally stable sweetener that tastes like sugar, but without sugar’s calories. After consumption, sucralose passes through the body without being broken down for energy, so it has no calories, and the body does not recognize it as a carbohydrate.

How is sucralose handled by the body?
Although sucralose is made from sugar, the body does not recognize it as sugar or a carbohydrate. It is not metabolized by the body, so it is calorie-free.


The problems with the above statements, so far as I have read are:

1) There are many reports that sucralose IS metabolized into other chemicals upon ingestion.

2)Sucralose is made from sucrose by substituting three chlorine atoms for three hydroxyl groups to yield 1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxy-BETA-D-fructofuranosyl-4-chloro-4-deoxy-alpha-D-galactopyranoside. This is accomplished in a five-step process. Prolonged storage, particularly at high temperatures and low pH, causes the sucralose to break down into 4-chloro-4-deoxy-galactose (4CG) and 1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxyfructose (1,6 DCF). Doesn't look much like sugar to me. How will our bodies react to this strange compound?

3) The FDA itself said that:
According to the FDA's "Final Rule" report, "Sucralose was weakly mutagenic in a mouse lymphoma mutation assay." The FDA aslo reported many other tests as having "inconclusive" results.

References I've used here:

Sucralose issues.
The Dangers of Sucralose
Diet studies sucralose


All in all, sucralose doesn't look as bad as aspartame, but still - do you really want to be ingesting something like this on a daily basis?

We as BL'ers should be better at self-control than the general population - let's just not stuff our faces with sugar - then we don't need Splenda. :)
 
MADMAN1054 said:
so is there anything you guys could suggest in replacement of artificial sweeteners? or at least one that isnt so bad?
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Stevia! It's a natural herb so is safe to use. You can get it at most health food shops.

Other than that if your wanting something to use while cooking i'd suggest organic blackstrap molasses because of it's high vit/mineral content.
 
As far as fish goes, isn't it the lighter-meat fish that absorb the highest rates of mercury from the water? So darker-meat fish are generally safer...
 
*shrug* Just eat fish oil supplements! Unless you're eating salmon/mackerel 3x a week or more it's not going to have a huge heart/brain/cancer protective effect anyway.

Plus fish oil supplements are (usually) virtually mercury-free because of the refinement process they go through. Government regulates the level of mercury allowed in supplements - I think it's something like 0.00001% or less.

Of course it's always better to eat the real thing if you're inclined to do so.
 
I'll just put my 2cents here. As with everything, the key is moderation. I think if I took all meat out of my diet and watched everything I ate for chemicalls, the extra stress would be unhealthy. If you want to 'add years through your diet,' you should eat in such a way to minimize unhealthy foods without overdoing it and keeping yourself happy.

Also, cost is a big factor. I sure as hell couldn't afford to eat organic food all the time. If I spent all my money buying organic food, my disposable income would decrease, my quality of life would decrease, and any increase in life span would be negated.
 
I don't think animal food causes cancer. How come the American Indians didn't all drop dead from cancer. The fact may be that feeding animals a grain diet full of polyunsaturated oils, mostly omega 6s are most of the problem. Grass fed meat is high in omega 3s which are very healthy to consume. Also the torture farming methods used on most animals may cause stress hormones which may be harmful not to mention antibiotics and pesticides. I think you're way off with your comments on animal foods. The rest of your ideas seem pretty good.

Check out stevia and Xylitol as healthy sugar substitutes. =D
 
Anything that is chared is carcenogenic. Meat is no exception. Also, meat consumption IS linked to colon cancer, so in that aspect, meat may well be carcinogenic.
 
Jimmy the Gun said:

Flax seed oil can be supplemented with vegetarian DHA.
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Just wanted to pick up on this point Jimmy, which I overlooked before... have you any links to sources of vegetarian DHA? I haven't heard of it and am interested to find out where it can be purchased/obtained.... I know DHA is now added to many breads/cereals/milks etc. and wondered how they got over the "fishy" element, is this the vegetarian DHA you speak of?
 
The original source of DHA is the algea that fish feed on. Vegetarian DHA is extracted from that. Do a google search...I found a couple companies that sell this product but am still using the DHA from my local health food store.

good luck and post back if you find anything intriguing :)
 
Once again Jimmy, I don't think that the American Indians had lots of cancer troubles. Meat doesn't have to be burnt. I like to use a crock pot at low temp. Again there is some good evidence that grass fed meat is far healthier than grain fed meat. Look at all the absolute crap most American meat is fed and you may have a source of your problem.

Still I won't disagree with the fact that most people may consume too much meat. It may be best used as a side dish or condiment for flavoring.

I wonder if your objection to meat isn't political, or philosophical. Which of course is a valid reason. I would even agree with you on some of that. Way too much reasources are used to provide beef for this country and alot of beatiful backcountry where I live is trashed by the cattle not to mention loss of wildlife. Cheers.:)
 
^^ Meat probably isn't that unhealthy, if you're balanced, which I'm sure the Natives were. But then again, I'm sure they didn't have problems with tobacco either, because naturally things probably aren't as bad for you. But here in our wonderful capitalist rape society, we get 200 wonderful extra ingredients in cigarettes, and great extras in the meat that we didn't ask for.


The two deepest things that hurt when I think of meat eating are as follows (and this is what made me a veggie):

- It statistically and logically is detrimental to our environment, society, personal health, values of freedom and moral justice. It just hurts to think of what potential is wasted when we don't even try and opt for traditional animal slaughter. Anyone who looks at it at any angle cannot possibly say it's healthy for anyone, except for our own comforts and standards (and is stagnation healthy?).

- The denial and the alienation. If you lived in the 1800's and your parents served you chicken on the grill, you wouldn't think much of it. They would have gone to pick out the live animal themselves, leaving you without much to ponder. But once you grew up and had to think, look, and decide about where those chickens come from and that they breath before you put an order for dinner in, you might form your own opinion. But ever since the 1950's, all that has been completely removed and replaced with "MEAT" "BURGER" breaded crap, hardly distinguishable or thought provoking (not to mention laden with hidden catches). You will never get within an hour drive from where that animal met its fate in a small, cramped steel cage. I would GREATLY appreciate it (and be able to sleep easy) if people knew consciously where the food came from and paid some respect, dignity, or goddamn thought, but alas, they don't NEED to, so who cares?-- capitalism alienates.
 
Right on. I agree 100%. That's the overwhelming argument against eating meat. Ghandi it was I believe who said you can see how advanced a civilization is by how they treat their animals. We score mostly a 0.

Our culture has us trappend between a rock and a hard place. Only with unconditional Love could this ever really change. IMO
 
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