Actual harm reduction for Oxy!

[Crhonos]

I used to enjoy playing video games as well. xbox all the way. Me and oxycodone got along real great for a while. But If i went on a binge of doing 60-90mg a day for even a week I would get horrible withdrawals within two days. And mind you, I was never the type to dose during the day. I would always take my dose in the evening and redose within a couple hours and that's it. I think withdrawals become more severe if you take it continuously throughout the day and then stop.

If somehow you are the exception and don't get sick there may be some sort of other underlying issues like Bman2 has stated. I think it's possible your body just isn't absorbing the drug somehow. Have you tried insufflating any amount of oxycodone? And I'm only referring to oxy since there won't be any apap involved. Try snorting a safe dosage of oxycodone to avoid that first pass metabolism and see if there are any noticeable changes.

One last question. Whats the longest period of time you've gone without any opiates to try and reduce your tolerance? Have you noticed a decrease with waiting at least two weeks as far as tolerance goes or experiencing withdrawals?

 

[Altered Perception]

Yea i agree with everyone else, it is very unusual that you dont experience withdrawals at such a crazy high dose.

I have been on oxycodone for 5 years now for chronic pain and even when i was on a 20 mg dose and i missed taking my oxy on time i would go into major withdrawals. I envy you, your body seems to function differently than most

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Thank you all for the kind replies, My last dose of 750 mgs, on friday the last day I posted this, I dont know how to describe the expirence, might of been too high to even notice or it was just whatever.. Tho something interesting is a few days before that dose I took 100 mgs unextracted and i acutally felt pretty good for a little while I was happy. I am starting to wonder if my doses are just way too high to enjoy, is it possible that you basically over dose so much that your body kind of just shuts down how you feel? im starting to think I just take too much, that is why i am preparing a 250 mg dose at the moment to see how it goes, I will also try to do different things, hang out with people etc.. see how that might impact the high. please keep your thoughts and opinions coming.

chronos- longest period has been maybe 8 days with a big slammer dose like 600 mgs after 8 days of no use and still with no satisfying results.. I have not gone over about 8-9 days to be exact. is it possible to aqquire physical WDS maybe like after day 7-8?

 

[PotatoMan]

If you want HR advice then here.

Since you don't experience physical WDs from these opioids then stop taking any of those pills for about 2 weeks maybe 3. I don't know how long it takes to kick tolerance but I used to abuse codeine 300mg every weekend and catch the same euphoria each time because of the 5-day break in between. I've never experienced WD and I think it's because of how I dosed. Some guys made it clear to me that it only takes a few days to kick tolerance from opiates/opioids.

After that break I'm sure your doses will drop and you should pace yourself and not abuse as frequent as you may be doing. Drug addiction kicks the the fun from doing them IMO. It becomes a routine and a depressing lifestyle. I'm not judging, I don't question peoples' motives (if it's one thing I learned from my acid trips).

I hope this post helps as I'm not experienced with Oxy and only Hrydro and Codeine. But popping these pills on the weekend only will do your well-being and health way better than dosing in the hundreds of mgs to catch a buzz as often as you may be dosing.

I see how addictig opiates/opioids can be though, my only hydro experience was 20mgs with some herb and 2 beers was the best high I've ever acquired from a drug in my life, this is why I have never done it again haha. Codeine is a shit snake compared to real euphoria from opioids haha.

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Your absolutely right, I'm amazed by your motivation/capability to push towards only using on the weekends, with that given advice to me I'm just going to exactly that... I guess 300 bucks a week is more then enough.... Fuckin a.. But see what's odd is even when i took like a 8 day break I still couldn't catch the big buZz even with a huge dose, I guess I'm just chasing the first time high over here maybe I gatta quit doing that

 

[mds275]

Not going to repeat what others have said re: dosing, ROA, tolerance changes, etc, but I do want to mention that you might want to look in to getting some naloxone (Narcan). Best case scenario is that someone is around you while high and knows how to use it if necessary, but I also know people who use small doses of naloxone on themselves when they feel too high or like they are about to overdose.
Npt sure where you are, but this is a link to a naloxone program locator in the USA and here is a site that will direct you to places in Scotland. Several other places have naloxone, but not sure of websites.

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Is narcan available to the public without some crazy process? I like the idea of having that handy, I'm located in Southern California,

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Scratch that just did my research, but yuck do they only offer it in a injectable roa? I don't mix needles and drugs...

 

[Bman2]

Narcan(nalaxone) is in suboxone, which you take sublingually. Not to scare you away from using it if you really need it, but it will put you in precipitated withdrawal if you take it with opiates in your system. A fair tradeoff to dieing if you're really OD'ing

 

[Felonious Monk]

Scratch that just did my research, but yuck do they only offer it in a injectable roa? I don't mix needles and drugs...

I think injectable is the only way you can really save someone who is ODing. If you're not conscious then you can't swallow something, but someone else can administer a shot. It's a good thing to have around even if you're not comfortable with needles, it could save your life.

 

[Bman2]

I think injectable is the only way you can really save someone who is ODing. If you're not conscious then you can't swallow something, but someone else can administer a shot. It's a good thing to have around even if you're not comfortable with needles, it could save your life.

Sub films will stick to your tongue and dissolve in your mouth free of effort. My buddy was OD'ing and I grabbed a sub film which he placed under his tongue without me helping & it probably saved him. Had I of needed to help him, I would just force his mouth open and place the strip on his tongue. Of course if someone is seconds away from dieing, shooting it would be better. You usually have a little more time than that.

 

[Felonious Monk]

^^Good to know, I wasn't sure if the bupe would screw it up if they were already high and ODing. (since the narcan needles are just naloxone)

 

[mds275]

Scratch that just did my research, but yuck do they only offer it in a injectable roa? I don't mix needles and drugs...

Technically speaking, naloxone is only FDA approved by injectable routes of administration (IM, IV, SC). Some places are adapting a stronger concentration of naloxone (2mg/2ml) for nasal administration, which seems to be working well. However, that formulation is more expensive and programs that are giving out naloxone are basically unfunded & operating on a shoestring budget, so often just offer the injectable kind. I know that there are some efforts in the Southern California area to get the formulation that can be given nasally. They give the nasal out in the Bay Area, currently, so if you get up there, you could get some at the DOPE Project. Personally, I agree w/ Felonious Monk that it's good to have around in case of an emergency, even if you hate needles.

^^Good to know, I wasn't sure if the bupe would screw it up if they were already high and ODing. (since the narcan needles are just naloxone)

I've talked to lots of doctors & pharmacologists about this & they generally agree that it is probably the bupe displacing the heroin/opioids & that the naloxone part of the Suboxone doesn't really have an effect. I've also heard of people injecting the Suboxone, which has worked, but also takes more time to dissolve the pill/film and fix the shot (tick tock, precious moments without oxygen...). Compared to using plain naloxone for an OD, it seems like the biggest problem w/ Suboxone is that the bupe will probably give someone with a habit withdrawals for a longer period of time than just injected or nasally administered naloxone (which lasts 30-45 min, usually). But, hey, if it works to get someone through an OD- that's good news!