Acid/Ketamine + opiates? (hydromorphone and diphenoxylate)

[dutchie3k]

First of all, I'd like to preface this by saying that last night I did Ketamine for the first time, while already about an hour into the high of a dilaudid 8 (which is a decent amount for me at this point, I worked my tolerance down a bit. I can handle 3+ of them tho.) Apparently my K was bomb purity and I overdid it based on the instructions of my buddy who's used to cut crappy Keta.

Anyways, the K sent me way over the edge, out of body possibly the K hole (my FIRST K experience...) and i got extremely nauseous. I felt awesome and was zoning with my eyes closed, all I wanted to do was go back upstairs and be with everybody, and be outside, but as soon as I opened my eyes I got UBERsick. Eventually booted up 2 globs of neon colored plasma-like stuff..

QUESTION: Do ya'll think that the K just made me ubernauseous b.c. the dose was so high (probably 200mg-300mg....) or because I was on dilaudid at the same time?

2nd portion being that I was planning on taking acid tonight at a halloween party,

and I was wondering:Do opiates mix well with acid, say doing a dilaudid 8 or some diphenoxylate (lomotil) at 3-4hrs into the trip? I've only done acid once but tripped shrooms 50+times, so i'm fairly acid naive, and these hits are reportedly veeery strong (Rainbow-infused "dead-Head" drawing sheets). I've seen their effects on folks :D I was gonna take 1 or 2 tonight and try a diluadid during the trip, as I am a huge opiate fan, I had a huge problem in the past but now i regulate my use. Good idea?

 

[Shambles]

Good idea is all down to taste, of course... Personally I love combining acid with ket, acid with opiates, ket and opiates and all three together. Most folks would probably agree that opiates can slightly cloud the psychedelia but if you're out and about and partying that's not necessarily such a bad thing

Acid and ket is a head-twister though so if you're not too familiar with K you may want to take it steady on that one - stick to lil bumps rather lines unless you want to lose touch with reality completely. Even the most hardened of psycheheads can find acid + ket to be a difficult beast to tame. Really can send you spinning off into some very strange places indeed

Oh, and I'd say the nausea you felt before was almost certainly the K if you're familiar with opiates. Ket makes many people nauseous - especially if you're bordering on the hole but not quite in it. Mmm... headspinny 8(

PS: From a safety standpoint, both ket and opiates can suppress the breathing to an extent so best to take it a bit steady. It's never been an issue with me but it's something to watch out for. Have fun