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Acid blotter that is DOB. Lab analyzed. (w/ pics and spectra)

Hrmm very interesting. The Sunburst with a heart printis probably this as well then. Its been around locally and after eating the super potent white unperfs they are quite sure the sunburst prints are not lsd.
 
alright i've seen these same hits floating across festivals this summer

from what i've heard, they originated in california and somewhere along the line someone "smeared" crystal directly onto the blotter, is what we were told

the taste was very bitter like other's have described ... some people claimed it was "fluff" but a lot of us thought it definitely wasn't acid because the come up time was ~3 hours and there were lingering effects for a longer than usual time period

i still have a few of these hits but obvioulsy i won't be taking them anytime soon. peace
 
fairnymph said:
Bromine is evil IMO because it tends to lead to very nasty side effects; a heavy body load, lots of nausea and muscle tension.
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Off topic, but 2C-B is easily in my top three easy-on-the-body psychedelics. In fact, I easily get more stimulation and tummy-rumbles out of LSD. However, the lackluster trip I get off 2C-B puts it way back on the list. No interest in DOB or BRDF. Ok, back on topic folks....DOB blotters.
 
^^
I got full body tremors my first time on 2C-B, at about 20mg (I need more like 24mg for a full +++ on the stuff)...

In retrospect I may have been close to having a seizure on the stuff. So I would not call that a light body load. Other times I ate (or sniffed) 2C-B it was not that bad, but still not easy on my body compared to some psychedelics.

Oh yeah, I think this thread has served its purpose.... unless somebody pops in with another known DOB blotter I think we can have a bit broader discussion for anyone who's interested. :)
 
It would be great if we could see the results of the analysis on this thread...

The wide variety of people's responses to DOB (and LSD) mentioned here just re-inforces that it's almost impossible to tell what a suspect blotter might or might not be, just by going on one or two subjective responses to it.
 
fastandbulbous said:
You can't even use the 'taste test' with blotters, as DOI is pretty much tasteless in solution, so it will not impart any taste to a blotter
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Yes it will. DOI blotter tastes a bit metallic (like acid) until it hits the back section of your tongue. Then it tastes pretty bitter and not at all like acid.

But by that time it's kind of tough to spit it out anyway, so enjoy the ride! hehe
 
Ok, the LC/MS spectra data is now online and I've also put below a description of the sample preparation and a some brief commentary. The NMR I will have to scan and I don't have a scanner here so that may take a few days to get online.


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Sample was prepared by placing two tabs in a conical vial and adding ~0.5 mL of ethanol. Column was C-18 reverse-phase. Mass spec method was electrospray ionization (positive). The two masses seen are DOB at 274 and the cleavage of the amine at 259. The characteristic ~1:1 [M]:[M+2] ratio of bromine isotopes is clearly observed. Note that the acid of the salt dissociates in the LCMS, so the type of salt present (HCl, HBr, etc) cannot be determined by this method.

Injection volume was 3 uL.

The retention time matches that observed with a known sample of DOB.

The identities of the blips at 0.622, 2.276, etc. minutes are not known; it would be reasonable to expect that dyes from the blotter paper are present in these spectra as well.
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If a mod could edit the forum displayed title for this thread to include 'with pics and spectra' that would be great. :)
 
Yes it will. DOI blotter tastes a bit metallic (like acid) until it hits the back section of your tongue. Then it tastes pretty bitter and not at all like acid.
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The time I had DOI, it was a 3mg/ml soln (I had 1ml) and it didn't seem to have a taste or any residual after taste. Are you sure it's not the ink in the blotter that's responsible for the taste (or it could be a genetic thing - I know that there are some chemicals where the taste is dependant upon genetics)
 
the DOx compounds glow under blacklight aswell but I thought LSD was destroyed by blacklight.
 
Both will glow under blacklight and neither will be destroyed, to my knowledge.

A blacklight/UV will only help tell you whether you have something psychoactive or nothing at all, not differentiate the actual drug.
 
I've never noticed any taste with acid; shouldn't that be a surefire way of telling acid or no acid? If its bitter, no acid, no taste, acid?
 
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Sort of, but not really. I remember the eyeballs had a definite taste to them, mostly a metallic flavor and nothing too extreme, and those are widely regarded as some of the better acid in the last few years.

Several other good blotters I've eaten had a slightly spicy flavor, especially ones that I know weren't laid by professionals and may have been some liquid smeared on paper, dissolved in Bacardi 151 or some other kind of flavored alcohol.

The dye/ink in the paper may also have some flavor.

So if it tastes like ass it's probably not LSD, but if it's got a little spice to it, it could very well be good LSD.
 
A blacklight/UV will only help tell you whether you have something psychoactive or nothing at all
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No, it won't even tell you that. A wide variety of materials are fluorescant but not psychoactive, and there are psychoactives that aren't flourescent.
 
This is true, what glogga says, I guess I was thinking more in terms of what people would and wouldn't put on blotter.

And I realize that not all psychoactives are fluorescent, but most are.
 
A wide variety of materials are fluorescant but not psychoactive
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So all that happens is that the dodgy little bastards trying to pass off other chems as LSD start adding tiny amounts of dyes like fluorescene to their blotting solns so that it'll glow under UV.

The only definitive tests are either chemical based, use chromatography/magnetic fields & detectors (as in GC-MS) or are the 'suck it and see' test; which is obviously the least desirable if you're going to be shelling out a lot of money to stock up on LSD or have a particular aversion to DOB, DOI or 5-methoxyAMT (I never want to consume the last of those three compounds ever again - esp. paying to reproduce the effects of salmonella on my digestive system).

Actually the spelling is FLUORESCENT
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As well as being needlessly picky, you're on dodgy ground saying things like that when the US spelling of a lot of words is different to the British spelling (colour/color; sulphur/sulfur - do I need to go on?). It also opens you up to a lot of people highlighting every spelling mistake you make.

Even if it's not the US spelling, we all know what glogg meant
 
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