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Absolutely a comeplete mind fuck

scott5809

scott5809

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last night me and my friends did acid me and a my other friend have done it the first time about a week ago and we told our other friend about it so all the hype made us all want to do it yesterday at about 5:30, so we take the tab (i took 1 and they took 2) we were feeling so awesome for probly the first 2 hours and we were loving the way everything was morphing but then we went in my backyard (at night) to go smoke a blunt and one of my friends started buggin and me and my other friend were trying to comfort him saying its all in his head then we started getting really deep about how it is really all in your head, then wen went back to my basement where we originally started our trip and we started getting into our brain conversation like extremely deep it felt deeper than just words and it was scaring the shit out of us and before we knew it 3 hours gone by and we were in complete shock, it kept me up till 7:30 this morning cause it was eating away at me so bad that we were talking about some bullshit for 3 hours even tho it really didnt feel like bullshit, it was like another dimension or something...pretty much the trip was too much to describe in words
 
Welcome to psychedelics. Who knows what causes someone's good trip to suddenly turn dark and paranoid? Well, in this case, it seems clear the paranoia-inducing properties of weed decided to materialize... after which his "bad vibes" induced coherent bad vibes in others.

It's almost always a bad idea to try more than VERY minimal "talk therapy" to "convince" someone by logic to stop having a bad trip. It NEVER works in my experience. The person having the bad trip experiences "The Talk" as an inquisition and their mindstate gets worse, it seems to just confirm that "something is very very wrong."

The others get frustrated the talk is not working, and upset that the person in the bad place is dragging everyone down, "refusing" to see what seems obvious to them and "get better," etc etc. and THEIR emotional state turns bad as well. Vicious spiral ensues.

Just a little nonchalant "Oh dont worry, youll be alright, haha" and a change of venue or time alone laying in peace listening to calm music, etc. probably best.

Some interesting suggestions:
- If its light make it dark
- If its dark make it light
- Bare feet soles on the ground/floor
- Focused-breath meditation... focus on breathing... try to STOP all words and thoughts.
- see everything the bad tripper is experiencing as AN ILLUSION generated by their own mind
- try to take a step ABOVE and NOT be the one having the negative thoughts, but rather be "The Watcher," the detached higher-level awareness who is looking down from above SEEING the tripper feel the scary things. The point is to DE-identify with the negative trip feelings, make them NOT "their own"... turn those gears OFF.
 
You just summed up a large part of the reason people take psyches in fine style - it's not to all tastes initially but even if not it often grows on ya. The effects you describe are (pretty much to a word) what somebody who chases the psychedelic dream follows. They aren't to all tastes maybe... but they do tend to grow on you... Sounds like you and your friends tripped - it gets easier with practice ;)
 
^ I agree.


Sounds like a cool trip to me, but if you want to avoid the more harsh vibes next time you trip, skip the weed.
 
I agree on the "skip the weed" thing. Sure, some people enjoy smoking cannabis while tripping, but personally I've seen way too many good trips go sour after a few hits of weed. It seems to induce confusion and a sense of being over-whelmed in many people.
I find that smoking on the come-down can be quite nice, though :)
 
I've only ever experienced bad vibes/panic/fear after smoking weed, and only ever seen it happen to someone else after smoking.

Used to be able to smoke throughout the whole trip though, kinda sucks i cant anymore.
 
I would agree with the heavy vibrations the cannabis brings. Personally that is what i sought. I would religiously have my bong packed and ready to rip when i felt myself starting to peak.....
......The unmistakeble humming in the ears as if a jet turns on their engine right above you followed by an array of patterns morphing into one another.
Wonder what a ripper of dmt or salvia would do to your world.....complete utter chaos i would imagine.
 
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