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A warning for older bong smokers

Key words being 'single decent breath'

I have gone off vaporizers and instead I vaporize hash oil in a crack pipe with a jet lighter. Total one pipe wonders!!!

I don't use weed daily now days. 8+ years was long enough for me

Weed is best in massive amounts with breaks between it's use. Habitual weed smoking is lame and stops you from getting the most out of life and yourself
 
Habitual any drug use is lame and really only for losers like me who can't cope with life or get their body to perform natural functions like sleep. Habitual weed use is less lame than most other types of habitual use, but none of it is good!

I prefer weed when I smoke it regularly, it equalises me better. It is funny, I used to have bad anxiety when I smoked all the time and was getting some when I smoked regularly but no daily. The 3 months I have been smoking daily again and cut back on the drinking I have felt way less anxious and my benzo (ab)use has probably more than halved. Pretty weird shit, I think maybe all the amphetamines I was taking must of factored in as well.

I think small amounts of cannabis used purely as a sleep aid and maybe to enjoy a buzz for the last hour or so of your day is pretty harmless. It is definately as close to harmless as daily drug use is going to come. I notice that apart from fucking my lungs a bit and making it a tad harder to rise in the morning it has little to no adverse effects. Smoking all day every day is a bit different.
 
Cigs feel the least harmful to me, in terms of the amounts of cigs I smoke.
I hate weed and weed hates me, tried it again the other week after a year and had a full-on paranoid anxiety attack, the relevant part being that every time I've had a cone it really hurts my lungs and makes me wheeze and splutter and I can't even smoke a cig after a cone because my lungs feel so gross, sore and clogged, lasting about 6 hours.
Meth feels fine and smooth and there's no problems at the time, can't even feel it, but it seems the damage is delayed because the next day I have a tight chest, chest pains, gross wheezy thing where my chest has like an 'echo,' as in when I stop breathing in/out, a gross phelgmy sound keeps going for a few seconds afterwards.
Basically, smoking things will really harm your body, if it hurts then give it a rest for a while.
 
Just found out that another mate had been admitted to hospital a few weeks back with a partially collapsed lung from smoking hong kongs, but it wasn't as big a deal the doctors pretty much told him to go home and it would heal itself. So this sort of thing isn't as uncommon as you'd think.
 
jeepers... I wonder when my old lady's lungs will begin to collapse? 8o

I mean she is pushing 50 and has been smoking bongs since she was at least mid-30s, as far as I know :|

I've smoked a bit of speed & ice in my time & my lungs seem to be alright... I used to be a swimmer though when I was a whipper snapper so I'm kind of a cheat when it comes to a stunning lung capacity... I also don't smoke many cigarettes and haven't been doing so for very long (we'll say 18months)

sorry to hear about your mate :\
 
If you just smoke pot instead of mixing that shitty tobacco crap..your lungs will be fine

i have had tests done on my lungs before and after chronic marijuana use... .8% difference over 3 years which is negligble due to city life.


Im vaping at the moment.. my mate lent me his volcano. Got it imported into oz fr like 600 total.. well worth it.
 
TripppAR said:
If you just smoke pot instead of mixing that shitty tobacco crap..your lungs will be fine

i have had tests done on my lungs before and after chronic marijuana use... .8% difference over 3 years which is negligble due to city life.


Im vaping at the moment.. my mate lent me his volcano. Got it imported into oz fr like 600 total.. well worth it.
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Why 600? Aren't 'Volcanos' considered as good as you can get, and can't you get them here for 300$?
 
TripppAR we are talking about pneumothoraces not lung capacity. Primarily a spontaneous pneumothorax whereby blebs burst due to a steep pressure gradient (scuba diving, taking off and landing in an airplane, etc.), trauma (high contact sports, falls, etc.) and smoking. As soon as you are admitted to hospital and you show all the typical symptoms, the first question the doctor will ask you is do you smoke bongs frequently. I'd upload a picture of me in hospital but it would be rather incriminating in a way so here's some pictures.

Front view of a chest drain.
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Patient with inserted chest drain after trauma.
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The last picture is extremely over exaggerated as it's a trauma situation but when my lung spontaneously collapsed this is what I looked like minus the bruise and stab wound.
 
That is pretty fucking nasty eh, but it serves a good reminder to all there can be dire consequences to the decisions we make. That picture is almost enough to make me cut back, but not quite. :p

Really do hope it turns a few people off the idea that cannabis is perfectly harmless though, because nothing is.
 
8o Owch to that Pic. Even without the extra trauma shown there it is said to be quite a painful thing. The 3 people I mentioned who had this happen each felt the pain Whilst smoking a bong , mid-pull or just after , so It's almost certainly the pressure that has ruptured an already weakened part of the lung (due to smoking tobacco in these cases possibly?). They each smoked with spin and large cones. It does make you think twice when someone hands you a huge bong ... and as with most things with risk involved ... harm minimization can go a long way to better health.

On the Vapourizers ... I was very sceptical a few years back when they started making more of an appearance ... die-hard bong smoker here aswell (no other method quite has that 'kick' to it for me) ... and the first version I tried was a cheaper one , couple of hundred and I wasn't too impressed , but was interested and had heard of this almost mythical sounding Volcano hehe ... I've used one a number of times now and they work very very well. Exceeded my expectations you could say so I'd have no trouble recommending one if it weren't for the price , if you've got the 1/2 a grand + just lying around then sure , they are worth the cash ... if your always broke like me then it will take a while to save up :D but if you smoke bongs all day and maybe have lung troubles the vapes will help heaps. Personally , I'd only ever buy a Volcano for a vape so until I somehow find the cash one day I'll stick to my moderate bong use.

A ~$30 standard glass bong (with the wide stem ofc) is about the best bang for buck you can get implement-wise imo ... and I am happy to 'bong-on' for many years yet no doubt ... but if I had a Vape I would use it daily too with just a few cones between. After a night on just the Volcano alone the first time , my chest had never felt so clear (after coughing up a fair bit here and there) and the Next day my lungs felt the best they had for years , being a ciggie smoeker too this peice of equipment is definatly something I could see as a benefit. For me Cannabis helps in so many ways I won't even start but only to say that I could stop smoking bongs/Canna any day but choose not to and this replaces (for the most part) all the other pharma drugs I would be taking otherwise ... more shit to get hooked to ... No Thanks
I've found moderation provides better results than excess when it comes to the Cannabis ... even if in very regular use , there are ways. :)
 
Damn.. I think I'm gonna pull smaller cones after reading this thread.

I don't smoke cigarettes but I am a weekly smoker of bongs (spun).
 
dextrous said:
Damn.. I think I'm gonna pull smaller cones after reading this thread.

I don't smoke cigarettes but I am a weekly smoker of bongs (spun).
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Weekly bong smoking isn't likely to cause collapsed lungs but it will cause damage to lung tissue

It is the daily bong smokers that should be changing their ways after reading this thread.

I had pleurisy multiple times in my late teens and early 20's thanks to bongs and it's not fun. Imagine stabbing pains every time you breath and not being allowed pain killers because you're considered a 'drug addict' because you admitted smoking weed to your doctor :\
 
Man why in the fuck wouldn't you just go to a different doctor and say you just smoked cigs? I am not trying to encourage doctor shopping but being denied drugs you legitimately need due to prior recreational drug use is so obscene it isn't funny! It is so unfair how hard it is to find a doctor that you can be honest and open with about your drug use without instantly being mistrusted or unable to get legitimately needed meds just because they have abuse potential.

I mean maybe more addicts would get treatment if they weren't blacklisted and looked down upon by whole of society. How do we as a society expect drug addicts to want to come forward and get help when even the health professionals that are supposed to be there to help are passing judgement on these people?
 
drug_mentor said:
Man why in the fuck wouldn't you just go to a different doctor and say you just smoked cigs? I am not trying to encourage doctor shopping but being denied drugs you legitimately need due to prior recreational drug use is so obscene it isn't funny! It is so unfair how hard it is to find a doctor that you can be honest and open with about your drug use without instantly being mistrusted or unable to get legitimately needed meds just because they have abuse potential.

I mean maybe more addicts would get treatment if they weren't blacklisted and looked down upon by whole of society. How do we as a society expect drug addicts to want to come forward and get help when even the health professionals that are supposed to be there to help are passing judgement on these people?
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I know, it makes it really hard.

In the end I self medicated with prescription drugs bought off the black market and also ate weed. This was better for the pain than the panadeine forte they probably would have prescribed me any way ;)
 
Smoke in lungs = damaging, no matter how you look at it. Nonetheless, as a weed smoker of nearly 40 years I've always preferred bongs to pipes or joynts but haven't tried vaping yet. In my heyday I'd hit 10+ cones every day then tapered off to 2 or 3 over the spread. Circumstances have led to only sporadic use these days and then only Afghani or Morroccon hash through a small water pipe. I've still not developed a hacking cough and run laps a few times a week without pulling up too short-winded, so I count myself blessed in that respect... so far.
I've smoked 4-5 cigs a day forever but never tobac + weed mix. Sameria's query about how many readers do this would be interesting in the follow-up.
Let's not forget that while smoking anything will screw your lungs up, hoovering it down to the bottom of your lungs via bong, hookah, bucket etc. involves a different inhaling mechanism to that of toking a joynt or pipe in terms of effort, IMHO.
 
I have also had two spontaneous pneumothorax, first the right side about 30% which required an overnight stay in the hospital, and some months later the left side which was only about 20% and i was aloud to go home after a few hours, i would have to say this was caused from smoking weed on a daily basis.

Will add more tomorrow when i can comprehend.
 
Gruesome photo Jordan`.

If you're not going to give up your bong, at least keep it clean. I think straining on a corked bong/cone is half the problem. It's not like smoking a joint where your cheeks are the bellows - with bongs, your lungs do most of the work.

Back on the vape these last couple of days - and it's literally like applying a salve on my battered lungs from a 4 week bong binge.
 
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