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A trip report of an unknown RC causing extreme pain (Sold as "LSD")

timeofzach

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Greetings this is a trip report from Zappy & Electrah

This is a story from Oct/Nov 2016

This I a storey from me and my gf of when we were doing acid thoughout the summer/winter and it seems to be very distributing I also had a good friend with me but he did not have the same reaction as we did. Before this took place we had already had experience with LSD many times before we were getting green Bernie Sanders tabs that were on paper I'm seeing pictures of them floating around on the internet and they were very good I took it up to five of them at a time and never had a bad experience like this one. This experience happened to three times but only once for my girlfriend and it happened when I ran into some gel tabs that were red pyramids that were floating around in the lower Ohio... getting acid many times before and knowing who the person that was giving them to me personally I did not assume that things would go bad like this the scary thing is is that there were about 20 people who tried them and never really had a bad reaction but pretty much all of them said that they made them sick to their stomachs and felt different from most LSD which leads me to believe that it could have been a possible NBOMe.. But I struggle to find threads of NBOMe gels. I also heard some news fairly recently about these times again which brought it to my attention a friend of the person who I acquired them from had purchased the same tabs and the police seize them and done lab test on them to see what they were and the lab results were inconclusive and contained no traces of LSD so the person who had the tabs was let free. Things like these should not be sold as LSD when they are not and the people out here selling them are not even getting in trouble for selling poison because they're listed has no known drugs. This is very scary and this experience has changed me and my girlfriend's life for the worst and has never returned to normal in the past 2 years.. One thing that has been ruined for us is that we can no longer smoke weed and we seem to have developed CHS after taking the red gel tabs. Anyways allow me to get on to the following story that took place around 6 p.m. that night

Me my girlfriend and my buddy will call him T, I'm just acquired some red gels from a good buddy of mine that I am still friends with you this day who I will call A, back then I was selling weed and taking acid regularly when the Bernie Sanders tabs were around and always had a good time a few bad trips but that happens to anyone who messes around with psychedelics but I never took it to heart however, this so-called "bad trip" it was more of an uncomfortable painful one at most.

TT:00
Me and my girlfriend and friend had just put the tabs under our tongues, I had known about 25x series before this took place so I knew what to look for a metallic / bitter taste which this gel have none of (maybe it was disguised with some sort of sugar or something very sweet I would assume it would be easier to hide the taste of an NBOMe with a gel tab) so everything seem to be fine and suiting for a good trip and enjoying some music and laughter and burning a few bowls. The tab felt kind of funny almost glossy / medicine type taste kind of like when you take cough syrup.

TT:00:30
I'm starting to feel something and me and my girlfriend are starting to get the usual stomach discomfort I exclaimed to her before the experience because of the one I had previously. Almost like we couldn't get comfortable and feeling as if something was not right not the normal come up no headspace was arriving at all it was almost as a paranoid adrenaline feeling was kicking in. There's no visuals at this point but seems to be bits and pieces of tracers and things out of place stuff is starting to look robotic and "not real" things seem to be getting thicker like my vision has just widen and flattened out like a piece of paper or a TV screen. Palms are sweating getting a little bit of nausea and the stomach discomfort becoming more noticeable by the minute but not really for me I had seem to develop pains in my lower left abdomen (lower bottom colon area) while my girlfriend's was in the middle / lower abdomen. The color red became very distinct and a feeling of impending doom was sinking in.

TT01:00
After about an hour into it the discomfort became extreme and I found myself rolling around on the floor and bending over and awkward positions to try to get comfortable it was almost like a radiating burning feeling in my abdomen I felt like I wanted to vomit which I had done in my previous trip and my vomit was almost blackish red looking and I kept throwing up stomach acid. It felt like pins and needles throughout my body and I became overheated easily but my extremities were getting very cold like my fingers and toes vasoconstriction became very heavy and a very heavy body load was present. After rolling around for 5 minutes not getting comfortable I started to get distressed and so did my girlfriend she ended up going in and out the front door because one minute she would be burning up in the next minute she would be freezing cold. Lots of Tremor and shaking or present we had felt like we had just ingested something very poisonous and my skin felt like it was crawling it was tingling and it felt like little pricks of needles are sticking into my skin as I looked at a wood surface every time the lines and the wood would move off the surface I would feel a prick in my side. Something was definitely not right about this and my buddy T was not getting any of this he felt completely fine he just felt like the tabs had a more Sinister vibe to them than usual and seeing how we were uncomfortable made him feel bad and he was desperately trying to give us ideas to feel better ex. Pepto Bismol, shower, food, water, blankets, bed, music, TV, games, or just anything to take our minds off of it which would not happen from any of the things that he had mentioned that we had done.

TT01:30
Me and my girlfriend we're getting very distressed and we could not sit still for even 2 minutes because our mind would not stop racing. Our thoughts became very scattered and very demonic and Sinister feeling. Things of overdose, poisons, death, horror,? being stuck this way forever or dying a psychedelic headspace seems horrible. Even though there was really no psychedelic headspace things were very thick and flat it almost looked as if I was under water I kept seeing bubbles and the walls seem to be breathing in four corners. As I laid clenched over holding my abdomen feeling as if a giant metal pole was stabbed into my lower colon I was gasping for air feeling as if I could barely breathe my chest was tight my throat was burning my heart was beating hard and I struggled to move I almost wanted to call 911 but I thought that I could ride it out and so did my girlfriend we did not really want to go to the hospital see me crazy and being put in some word or something or being questioned. Thoughts of people around me made me feel paranoid I couldn't stand looking at people's faces they looked mad in the evil and they looked like all they wanted to do was hurt people skin seemed gray and dead my legs and arms became very red and my chest was blotchy. Very constricting tightening feeling throughout our bodies it felt like we were dying we kept seeing the color red stand out the most and things look like they were bleeding but I also had flashes of yellow and green and then turning back to red it seemed like strobe lights and seemed like the devil's party things were not wispy like LSD but were instead mechanical and sharp. I remember having a distinct headache and felt like my brain was being squeezed of its juices. I just wanted the pain to end but there was no end it was hallways in hallways of endless tortures. I remember my vision turning almost like a spider web everything looked darkish and webby. I felt like I was attached to all the people who were sick and ill and dying of the disease and poison. My skin was churning I think me and my girlfriend eventually vomited two or three times which did not help the pain whatsoever. We almost wanted to cry but no tears could be present we just pretty much sat there wanting to scream in Terror and my friend's mom and sister became very distressed and we're watching us carefully assuming that soon they might have to take us to a hospital. That thought dreaded in my mind? and I couldn't stop thinking that we were going to die my skin feel tight in my blood vessels felt like they were going to burst. I remember screaming "this would be the worst death possible" and I started thinking about the kids who died from ingesting 25i? I thought this is how I was going to turn out but something in the back of my mind kept me going and kept me from accepting my fate it was like my fighter flight was turned on overdrive.

TT:02:00-3:00
The pain seem to be subsiding a little bit but very little if whatsoever I noticed that the visuals were slowing down and things were returning to normal I started to feel slightly tired and I was just sick to my stomach and tired of feeling like this burning pain and uncomforting thoughts in my mind. I remember at some point my buddy T saying "this stuff seems unnatural I feel like a snake and I don't like the trip and I feel bad for you guys".

TT:04:00-05:00
I remember at the 4 to 5 hour mark the trip started to wear off and the visuals were no longer present but the pain was still there me and my girlfriend went home and said goodbye my friend and I told him I would call him in the morning the rest of the night me and my girlfriend laid in bed feeling wore out sick old and ravaged we just felt as if we were poisoned. The whole night we laid in bed wondering what we are taken we assumed that it would wear off in the morning after sleep.

The following weeks and months was a recovery period remember having two or three doctor visits along with my girlfriend and not finding anything wrong with myself except for my aorta seemed to be a little swollen but nothing to worry about and eventually went down over time. To this day we cannot smoke weed because it brings back the same memories and when I do use LSD on occasion I tread with caution and I use test kits from this day on my valves never to have that happen again.

I am studying to become a organic chemist because I love chemistry if anyone has any idea what this might be I am at a total loss I assumed it was close to the NBOMe series but even some of the stuff doesn't add up I am at a total loss of what it could have been a lot of psychedelics I ran into have a distinct difference than the one that I had could I have had something that was unknown and newly made that has never been put into literature? Who knows but I had to post this to get an opinion please give me ideas of what I could have ingested because it is ruined my life to this day. I know it was stupid on my part and I don't take it out on anybody but the person whoever made these and was selling them as LSD should be put in jail or be forced to take his own poison I do not appreciate people who lie just to make money when others lives are at sake. This is stupid and I don't find it amusing at all I'm still up to try some RC's but only if they are sold as what they are and are not being disguised I don't like taking drugs that are not what they seem. It's sad that some people go to this link to hide things and make people believe that they have something else because maybe some people want to journey deper and LSD being safe in that manner to most extent is not the same as RC's there deuce is way lower and more lethal than common psychedelics.

Please let me know and thanks for reading I will post more stories eventually but this one was one I had to get off my chest that has bugged me for a long time.

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Hey there, there is literally no way anyone can tell you what you took through the Internet, but I do agree it sounds like it probably wasn't LSD. Given the timeframe the most likely culprit is an NBOMe such as 25i-NBOMe. But the only way to tell for sure would be if you had been able to test it.

In any case, it sounds like you've moved on from this, you're studying to be an organic chemist which is cool. :) It doesn't really matter what it was, you're fine, and worrying about it will only cause anxiety. Best to just leave the past in the past.

Nice trip report by the way. :) I'm going to move this to Trip Reports since that's what it is.
 
Thank you very much this is my first post and I had to get this off my chest its bothered me for the past 2 years.

I have moved on but I've still always wonder why me and my gf had such a bad reaction and like 20-30 I know he sold it too had a fine trip now pain or anything they said they just felt a little sick but me and my gf had these pains for months after the trip.. I still get them on occasion but it could be a mental baggage however, this experience ruined smoking weed for us and I miss being able to smoke weed..

I actually got so sick of the pain that I ran into H.. But that's a story for a different time. I overcame that addiction a long while ago.

I did find it perplexing that only me and my gf experienced this and about 20 to 30 others did not. I do agree that is was probably an NBOMe of some sort only it had no taste maybe cuz of the gel. My friend though we may have been allergenic to the gels but I never got why the pain was in my colon area. It felt like I had a spire stabed there for well over 2 or 3 months and I had a lot of doctor and hospital visits only to find nothing around and I even had therapy on and off. Another thing that's weird is I dropped it at 6 p.m. and it only lasted till about 10 / 11 p.m. so like 4 or 5 hours unlike the 7 or 8 hours with LSD. This has only made me want to trip only if I have a test kit.

Thanks for the response! I wasn't sure if anyone would reply.
 
yeah, for sure it wasn?t LSD, but it don?t mach with NBOMEs neither as they are only active via insufflation or sublingual. Did you take it sublingually or oral?.

So, your friend T took the same tabs and didn?t get poisoned?


My take is that it was a common short acting phen/trip (most probably a tryptamine) from the shulgin catalogue and that it resulted in a bad trip. But as Xorkoth says, is impossible to know without testing the tabs

We all psychonauts have had bad/horrendous trips in ocassions. Take all the time you need to recover (you will recover) and if you want to try again, start with half or quarter dose.
 
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No nobody else got this but I did hear from a good friend ended up selling some to a couple who said it was horrible and they had some what of a similar reaction.

And as for my friend T, he never felt anything was wrong with him he felt completely fine. He just thought they were strong. He felt bad for us the whole trip but he didn't know what to do about it. I ever heard someone took 2 or 3 of these tabs and were fine. We must've been allergic to something in these tabs. I've got THKIAL and PHKIAL and have read them both and I have came across stuff that sounded similar.

I also wonder if the chemist was trying to make a new chem...
 
I did take sublingually (under the tongue) and the gel tab never dissolved properly it was still under my tongue after about an hour so I spit the little tiny piece that was left out. I do remember putting it under a blacklight and it looked like it glowed a little bit but there was a dark circle in the middle it only glowed on the outer edges so I don't really think it glowed but just kinda leaked through as it being slightly transparent.
 
Every trip is different, people have really bad trips where they feel poisoned on LSD, too. There are tons of people over the years who have had long-lasting negative repercussions from real LSD. So that could be why you guys had a bad trip but others didn't. Plenty of people have had good trips from NBOMes and DOXs (like DOB or DOC, years back those were the drugs people sold as LSD, before NBOMes).

Was it bitter, and/or did it numb your mouth? If it was very bitter and numbed your mouth it's kind of a dead ringer for NBOMes, DOXs are bitter but not super bitter and don't numb your mouth. LSD tabs can taste slightly bitter because of the ink or paper but it won't taste strong.
 
The closest thing I think it could have been was 25D-NBOMe but as for taste it didn't really have much I think my tongue might have been mildly numb 25D seems to only last 4 to 6 hours exactly like this one I know my mouth felt glossy after and I know it had like a cough syrup type taste but I suspect it is 25D because it sounds so similar but I'd like to know why it feels so toxic I wonder what it is maybe I had minor serotonin syndrome..
 
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/25D-NBOMe

Time and duration match but I wonder what they used in the gel to hide the taste I know that it had a different trip than acid I'd had before or after like the storm trooper tabs I had from the same guy were paper and they were good but now I def watch out of gels... There was one time I was sold acid and it was on a candy but it turned out to be some sort of GHB....
 
"some sort of GHB" doesn't make sense. GHB is just a single chemical, and the active dose is multiple grams of powder, you couldn't hide that on a candy.

Anyway you can't mask the intensely bitter taste of NBOMes. Honestly, every trip is different, you could very well have had LSD. In any case, like I said it really doesn't matter anymore. You might be obsessing about finding out, but in case you are, I can't tell you how many people have posted here obsessing about whether they took an NBOMe and whether they're damaged, etc... and it's the worry and obsessive thoughts that are the actual problem.
 
No I'm not worried about it in the case of Alexander Shuglin he had 100's and 100's of experiences like mine but he was wiser and more experienced than me. As far as damage goes I'm not worried about it because a molecule does not stay in the body forever I'm just more cautious about things like this. What's done is done and I don't stress over it I just put it out there to see what others thought but I know I'm fine because hell Shulgin lived to be 88 so I'm not super concerned. And as far has GHB I heard that liquid form is only about the size of a bottle cap that can feel like 20 shots. The reason I said GHB is not because I think it is but it had similar reaction I even shared it with an experienced psychonault like myself only he is 7 years older than me and has had about 15 years with all kinds of psychs. He actually had a story similar to mine with gels aswell but his was with green and blue ones. Whoever is selling gels in lower Ohio is selling poison I also heard people talking about the same thing when I was going to a methadone clinic who had a similar experience and who had gotten them from lower Ohio where I am.
 
I do appreciate the answers though and I know I will never know what it was and it doesn't bother me too much I just wanted to post it out there to see what some people thought it could be I think what might have happened and caused me to have such a bad time with whatever the RC was was because I had smoked cannabis on top of it and maybe it had a different reaction than it should have because I noticed afterwards when I smoked weed that I couldn't smoke weed with acid and eventually I couldn't smoke weed at all it just always put me in a bad trip so I would smoking which is funny because a lot of my friends still enjoy smoking and talk about it all the time especially dabs. I would be so scared to do a dab if I can't even handle smoking some mids. But I'm not going to try to edit but this one so I don't have to run into accidentally deleting it if I choose to I will just do it on a computer instead of my phone because my phone seems to have a problem with deleting things and clicking buttons that I'm not even clicking on.
 
I had a funny feeling you accidentally deleted it by trying to edit on a mobile device. There is a bug in mobile, where most of the time when you try to edit you cannot because tapping anywhere on the edit pages causes it to be deleted.

It sucks but I'm sure it'll eventually get sorted.

If you ever need to edit you can first switch to full desktop view by clicking the "Full site" link down at the very bottom center of the page. Just scroll all the way down and you should see it.

Now you can edit without accidentally deleting. You can also do other things that don't work so well in mobile view like editing your profile, viewing things that have been encased in NSFW tags, and a few other minor things.

Then if you want to switch back to mobile view there will be a small window on the bottom left of every page that will allow you to select back to mobile view. The small window will say "Bluelight Aria" click it and select "Bluelight Mobile" and things will switch back to normal mobile view.

Alternatively, you can also just log in from a normal desktop computer when you need to edit.
 
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Ah yeah the mobile delete, gotcha. I'll move the other posts into this one.

FYI we're working on upgrading the site to be mobile-friendly. Bluelight time... it's a real thing, since no one on staff gets paid and we all have real jobs.
 
Thank you I'm sorry for the confusion it was a glitch / mess up. I just learned something new about the tabs yesterday the person who had got these was getting them locally so they were probably being made in a clandestine Laboratory because all of the paper ones that he had he had ordered offline and they turned out to be very legit the Stormtrooper, Rick and Morty, and the Deadpool ones or legit and I enjoyed them but the gel tabs that he got was from someone he was friends with and supposedly the guy who had sold him the gel pads became sketching to work with and I heard that he ripped him off so they stop talking and he no longer gets the red gels and the ones before the red gels were green and they were also the same thing. One compound that comes to mind as I was talking about earlier is 25D-NBOMe aka 2C-D-NBOMe. I also found it weird that they were being made locally and not ordered. It's hard to tell who knows and it's not really a big deal anymore because it was in the past and no one will know unless they were properly analyzed which the cops that seized the tabs from my friend or not able to get a conclusion however I do know they did not contain any trace amounts of LSD and this was confirmed by authorities who had told one of my friends that had them seized from him so he did not get in trouble.
 
However all of my friends that I've talked to about them agree with me that they think it was an NBOMe and there were even some people saying the tabs tasted bitter but it was hard to tell for me because I really never tasted it but maybe I never paid attention because I was distracted from the pain I do think my tongue felt a bit numb afterwards but this is not something I can confirm to be true. It's a shame that I didn't keep one or two of them for test reagents that I have now.
 
Yeah I'm gonna be writing another trip report soon about the first time I took 5 tabs and I've already gotten half of it written already. Thank you for the help though I really appreciate it I just wanted to put that out there because I'm sure you or someone you know has had a similar experience to mine and could possibly relate lol. I came across an Old Post a while back that looks similar to this one that I posted but the funny thing was the guy never replied on what happened is that night after he said he couldn't sleep for 60 days and was up on blue light writing about it how he was in extreme pain and stuff and it made me wonder if the guy survived through it or passed away because you never finished replying and I remember him saying he had two tabs left that he wanted to test but never got around to it I suppose or he passed away... such a sad way to go out from a research chemical... if I was going to die from a psychedelic I would rather it be something natural rather than these newer more dangerous or sees that they're pumping out these days from China to just make a quick buck or some of the people that pass them off as LSD when they known fact it's not and are just going to screw people's lives up and possibly killed people in the process. People like that should not even be allowed to have access to drugs of that sort because they are not portraying them responsibly and could be responsible someone possibly dying. It's sad to think though when that happens when people are mistaken that it is LSD.. just like that one story I read one here about that kid I was talking about who was replying for about 60 hours after he took 3 hits of supposing acid and never got back to reply afterwards and had two times that you said he was going to test and tell the results but he never did tell the results and I was looking at his page and he never logged in after that day it's kind of eerie and the post is still up on here...
 
No worries, the reason I volunteer on a harm reduction site is because I want to help. :) Yeah that kind of situation is eerie, but generally a lot of people join Bluelight to post something and then never really use it again.
 
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