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A tree called Datura

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AussieBob

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So today a friend pointed out to me that 'the most hallucinogenic drug, more powerful then DMT... & that it makes you skitz for a while' was a normal plant growing in someones front yard. I sorta laughed it off not really believing him, but after googling Datura many many reports were found on erowid.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Brugmansia.shtml

I defiantly don't want to try this & advise against taking it after reading a few reports on erowid... I was just wondering if any one had tried/heard of this?

My mate also said when he was overseas he spoke to someone that said his brother was addicted to it taking it daily and gave up heroin for it :\
 
It's not a Hallucinogen. It's a Delirient.

You don't trip, you Hallucinate. You don't see fractals, you see real things. I've read trip reports where the person hallucinated a whole party in there house, meanwhile in reality; the house was empty. Others where people mistook socks for rats all over their house. etc....
 
i had some of the flowers a few years ago and was too scared to do anything with them, probly a good thing lol.
i too have hears some horror stories.
 
hello aussie bob,how are the Calabrians going in Griffith? U been winning on the hoarses?lol.hope you kno what im talking about...

I had datura,we always called it angles trumpet.was into alot of acid at the time,could handle some intense visualls and even when things turned weird i could explain to myself what was going on without a full wig out. But faaaaark.. That sit was intense, mind blowing hallucinations..not even fun ones.gremlins and gargoyles.never again.

Its very hard to dose,Admire the pretty flowers from a distance and keep strolling past that tree.f you decide to charge it,make sure u got a few days up your sleeve.
 
I've heard that it can send you blind, but I've never really been to interested to mess with it so I never really bothered to read up more about it.

But it sounds interesting but too haggard to mess with.
 
wraithdragon said:
I've heard that it can send you blind, but I've never really been to interested to mess with it so I never really bothered to read up more about it.

But it sounds interesting but too haggard to mess with.
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thats what i was told also, one of the main reasons i stayed away from it.
there seems to be so much variety with the adverse effects it can cause and unpredictable doses.
 
Deliriant, psychedelic, the important part is that you will experience true hallucinations; indistinguishable from reality as others have pointed out. That might sound like fun but can lead to trouble if you don't have someone there looking after you.
 
Datura sessions from friends 20-25 years ago resulted in fucked up shit. Lucky I was a sitter for them or they'd EASILY have killed themselves walking into cars/on the road etc. Saw them smoking cigarettes that weren't there, talking/dodging stuff that wasn't there in a 'not fun' manner. Plus some (all?) of them had BAD vision for a day or three afterwards, couldn't read a newspaper etc. So a 'not fun' night's datura session leads to 1-3 days of having to stay in a room til you get better (i.e see)..


If that sounds fun for you, go ahead..
 
When i was 16 i stupidly had datura not really knowing what it was, i was told it was similar to magic mushrooms

The actual experience was not frightening because i was to delirious to know how fuckd up i was, but for my dad it was incredibly frightening. I came home and my Dad had family friends over to visit and i started talking total jibberish, accusing them of doing things that had not happened and i was basically so far removed from reality that i can only begin to know how my Dad must have felt

The next day i went to school and could not focus my eyes properly and this persisted for 3 days, i had convinced myself i had permanently damaged my vision

To this day (14 years later) Datura is the only drug i will never try a 2nd time
 
Can't imagine why anyone would take datura. Except maybe to show off their balls. It's a highly toxic plant, the majority of users get poisoned by it to some extent, and almost everyone has a bad experience with it. Stay Away.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Deliriant, psychedelic, the important part is that you will experience true hallucinations; indistinguishable from reality as others have pointed out. That might sound like fun but can lead to trouble if you don't have someone there looking after you.
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definately agree with that, once you have lost the meaning of real/not, this can lead to very very very nasty situations.

datura is one thing, not one person i know has consumed and enjoyed, im safely going to say ill never try this substance/plant.
 
tropane alkaloids, ie - atropine, are present in all species of datura and are used in opthymology to create mydriases (pupil dilation) as well to paralyze the accommodation reflex temporarily.

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atropine is used as a cycloplegic, to temporarily paralyze the accommodation reflex, and as a mydriatic, to dilate the pupils. Atropine degrades slowly, typically wearing off in 7 to 14 days, so it is generally used as a therapeutic mydriatic, whereas tropicamide (a shorter-acting cholinergic antagonist) or phenylephrine (an α-adrenergic agonist) is preferred as an aid to ophthalmic examination.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtropineTopical]

i've been given the drops from an optometrist to examine my eye while i had an infection and blisters forming on my eye ball (to this day my eyes are still extremely sensitive to sunlight) and looked as if i was rolling hardcore for a few days with near zero visibility. i spent a good month inside before i even attempted to go outdoors:|
 
Divine Moments said:
Delirients are typically classified as hallucinogens. I think you mean it's not a psychedelic?
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When you can't decipher reality from hallucinations than it's delirium & that's what brugs & daturas do if the dosage is high enough. That's what makes them dangerous, PCP type dangerous.

Probably already been said in this thread, but it's always best to smoke the leaves or flowers, as the effects come on more immediately & effects lesser. Just smoke a little, wait,, smoke a little. As long as you're smoking the same mix (not smoke a leaf then a flower, smoke exactly the same mix) should be no suprises & you can stop before things become too weird.

Most or maybe all the problems you hear off with brugs/datura is due to consuming too much tea, as the effects aren't immediate & easy to ingest enough to send you nuts. A friend who did the tea with me not only lost complete connection with reality he also had a seizure which completely freaked me out as I was waiting for the same to happen to me. Luckily it didnt.
 
STEER CLEAR! 25 years ago a mate and I pepped up some average mull with dried leaf- shavings from an ancient Brugs sp. growing in my chook pen.

Mistake #1: The only 'research' we had came from The Little Golden Book of Hallucenogenic Plants which was ethno-anthropological and inexact. We hit several cones early afternoon in a paddock out the back of my place and I have no recollection of the come-up.

Mistake #2: We had no trip-sitter. There was no preparing for the all-consuming panic both of us felt once it took hold. We were both experienced with acid and shrooms but this was something else. There was no slipping in and out - as bobbydarren says, reality was wildly distorted and the hallucinations switched violently and abruptly. There was no hint of anything comforting or familiar to grab onto. Even though we were together we both felt totally alone with the experience, if that makes sense.

It was dark when the mate's missus came looking for him and found us several hours later. Both of us felt like our eyeballs were being squeezed when we got under the kitchen light and the mate was scratched and bruised from bouncing off trees and the barbed wire fence. I think I walked into the electric fence at some stage - thank fuck I never got tangled up in it.

In the wash-up, my mate has not touched anything besides bud since then. I've got a black hole in my recollection of the minutae of the event, but the impression it left was one of WARNING! DON'T FUCK WITH THIS AGAIN! It was as close to madness as anything I could imagine.
 
^ my experience was very similar..i never felt the same around the two people i did it with when we would trip again after that day..

I had bruised and battle wounds from trying to squeeze through small spaces.drunk tea tho,which we had no idea of potency.we made idiots of ourselves in a small town,main street tripping.lucky we were visiting..or i would have had to relocate.
 
Ive tried Hawain baby woodrose before (has the same actives in it, LSA etc) and it was nice feeling not visuals or anything, lights seemed a bit brighter sort of like when shrooms are coming on except nowhere near that regards to OEV/CEVs that coems with it.

Had a little bit of Euphoria and felt very weird in teh morning after i woke up. Nex time overdid it bit a little bit and half way thru it i started to feel very sick and vomited and thought i was going to die. Lasted quite sum time:S Every time i think of it it makes me sick.
 
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